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    Ok so, I've been wondering for AGES, Before Rapture fell apart, If a couple BOTH had ADAM in there system & had sex & the chick got pregnant, would the baby have ADAM in his/her too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOSTxPROPHIT View Post
    Ok so, I've been wondering for AGES, Before Rapture fell apart, If a couple BOTH had ADAM in there system & had sex & the chick got pregnant, would the baby have ADAM in his/her too?
    ...hmm thats an interesting question...well lets see, if ADAM modifies the genetics of the user then it can easily be said that the child

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    hmmmmmmmmmmmmm you just gave me something to ponder on...

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    I guess so, genetically for certain atleast. But the amount of similarities can be speculated on.

    Wonder what happens if the child splices?

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    Theoretically, yes, the baby would have the same genetic code as its parents so I'd say it would have ADAM in its system and any Plasmids his/her parents had

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    Quote Originally Posted by X1 BLACKOUT 1X View Post
    Theoretically, yes, the baby would have the same genetic code as its parents so I'd say it would have ADAM in its system and any Plasmids his/her parents had
    I disagree, if the mother spliced with electrobolt and the father spliced with incinerate, it does not mean the child will have those plasmids in their system nor will they be able to hone their abilities as the body develops.

    first off...

    The child would also most likely die before full term (miscarriage or stillborn), due to the DNA of both partners being heavily corroded.

    If the child did survive the birth process it probably would not last long because I would imagine it would suffer from organ failure relatively quickly from lack of nutrients (during or after pregnancy) or environmental conditions.

    Some might agree the plasmids in both partners could cause the 'fetus' to never become anything because the two partners due to splicing may be sterile. By sterile I mean, they can perform the right actions to reproduce but the chromosomes supplied by the man and those of the women could be so messed up that all that can be produced is a glob of pink mucus that would eventually be rejected by the body and passed vaginally.

    It is an interesting question, reminds me of the dog in a microwave question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post
    I disagree, if the mother spliced with electrobolt and the father spliced with incinerate, it does not mean the child will have those plasmids in their system nor will they be able to hone their abilities as the body develops.

    first off...

    The child would also most likely die before full term (miscarriage or stillborn), due to the DNA of both partners being heavily corroded.

    If the child did survive the birth process it probably would not last long because I would imagine it would suffer from organ failure relatively quickly from lack of nutrients (during or after pregnancy) or environmental conditions.

    Some might agree the plasmids in both partners could cause the 'fetus' to never become anything because the two partners due to splicing may be sterile. By sterile I mean, they can perform the right actions to reproduce but the chromosomes supplied by the man and those of the women could be so messed up that all that can be produced is a glob of pink mucus that would eventually be rejected by the body and passed vaginally.

    It is an interesting question, reminds me of the dog in a microwave question.
    random but what the dog in the microwave question?

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    If you place a dog in a microwave what will happen to it?

    A: Die
    B: Nothing
    C: Hair Starts To Shed & Fall Rapidly
    D: Cook Internally

    HINT: The answer is not D.
    There is no answer to the question btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post
    If you place a dog in a microwave what will happen to it?

    A: Die
    B: Nothing
    C: Hair Starts To Shed & Fall Rapidly
    D: Cook Internally

    HINT: The answer is not D.
    There is no answer to the question btw.
    ...wouldnt the dog die from the radiation of microwaves cause i remember this one time my classmate put her hampster in the microwave and it blew up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post
    I disagree, if the mother spliced with electrobolt and the father spliced with incinerate, it does not mean the child will have those plasmids in their system nor will they be able to hone their abilities as the body develops.

    first off...

    The child would also most likely die before full term (miscarriage or stillborn), due to the DNA of both partners being heavily corroded.

    If the child did survive the birth process it probably would not last long because I would imagine it would suffer from organ failure relatively quickly from lack of nutrients (during or after pregnancy) or environmental conditions.

    Some might agree the plasmids in both partners could cause the 'fetus' to never become anything because the two partners due to splicing may be sterile. By sterile I mean, they can perform the right actions to reproduce but the chromosomes supplied by the man and those of the women could be so messed up that all that can be produced is a glob of pink mucus that would eventually be rejected by the body and passed vaginally.

    It is an interesting question, reminds me of the dog in a microwave question.
    Well, if the child survived I think it would inherit those traits; after all, Plasmids literally BECOME you're genetic code and since that code is passed down from generation to generation, the Plasmids would as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by AK Downfall View Post
    ...wouldnt the dog die from the radiation of microwaves cause i remember this one time my classmate put her hampster in the microwave and it blew up.
    What the ☺☺☺☺. Was she...messed up in the head? Why the hell would you even want to do something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X1 BLACKOUT 1X View Post
    Well, if the child survived I think it would inherit those traits; after all, Plasmids literally BECOME you're genetic code and since that code is passed down from generation to generation, the Plasmids would as well.



    What the ☺☺☺☺. Was she...messed up in the head? Why the hell would you even want to do something like that?
    she said that she was 8 when it happened. The hampster was all wet from water so she thought that the microwave would warm it up...well she ended up with hampter soup instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Downfall View Post
    she said that she was 8 when it happened. The hampster was all wet from water so she thought that the microwave would warm it up...well she ended up with hampter soup instead.
    That...that's a terrible memory to have. That's such an awful thing to have have on your conscious at that age.

    On a side note, I love hamsters

    Oh, and I like how I'm tagged in this thread haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Downfall View Post
    ...wouldnt the dog die from the radiation of microwaves cause i remember this one time my classmate put her hampster in the microwave and it blew up.
    I think she was pulling your leg. I highly doubt the hamster literally exploded unless she plugged both ends of it first so the gases couldn't escape.

    A Microwave is very similar to a tanning bed but on a smaller scale. The microwaves penetrate from the outside in, they do not cook from the inside out. Your "8 year old" PETA hating friend was most likely joking.

    EDIT: The hamster probably did die because the oxygen in the chamber thins which would cause it to suffocate, not instantly, but if she let it 'cook' for like 3-5 minutes, yeah it's dead. Your friend is brain dead to start with, at 8 a child knows something is wrong when an animal rolls on it's back or starts to flail in pain.

    Well, if the child survived I think it would inherit those traits; after all, Plasmids literally BECOME you're genetic code and since that code is passed down from generation to generation, the Plasmids would as well.
    I still disagree, we have no idea what kind of consequences could occur by taking DNA modified by splicing/plasmids and using it's base pairs as the starting blueprint for a fetus. A properly formed fetus may not occur and the fetus splits in half and ends up as goo.

    It's not a black and white issue where you can safely say the genetic effects from plasmids on an adult is the same on a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post

    I still disagree, we have no idea what kind of consequences could occur by taking DNA modified by splicing/plasmids and using it's base pairs as the starting blueprint for a fetus. A properly formed fetus not occur and the fetus splits in half and ends up as goo.

    It's not a black and white issue where you can safely say the genetic effects from plasmids on an adult is the same on a child.
    I agree with you; the child would die since the genetic code between its parents would be so different (depending on the Plasmids they've spliced with), but from a genetics view, it's plausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X1 BLACKOUT 1X View Post
    I agree with you; the child would die since the genetic code between its parents would be so different (depending on the Plasmids they've spliced with), but from a genetics view, it's plausible.
    Agreed it wouldnt be black and white as there are numerous factors to considor. There DNA is changed from what it used to be so if it were to be passed down to viable offspring than it would be considered a mutation otherwords it is not technically a mutation just an error in the DNA. As for plasmids, these are not normally accepeted by eukaryotes (esp animals) if i remember correctly it is usually prokaryotes such as bacteria that have plasmids and share them amongst eachother.
    Assuming that the plasmids are able to be incorperated and the changes in the genome is stable and nothing of importance is interrupted or removed then it would be possible to pass these newly acquired traits to offspring.

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    Well, I suppose it would depend on whether or not the changes made by ADAM were recessive or not. I haven't done much study in biology in a while, but the whole genetics side of it was interesting at the time... Lets see what I can remember from highschool.

    Lets say that ADAM works in a way that it alters both parents genes. A = ADAM changes, but each parent would still have "traces" of what their genes were before. Let's say that = a.

    Both Parents offer half of their genes to the offspring, and both parents have a genotype as follows: Aa

    So, this is the diagram we come up with:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/genotype.jpg

    So, here we can see that an offspring has a 1/4 chance to be "normal," that is to say without ADAM changes. This assumes that ADAM is a dominant change to the system... but if it is recessive and the little a is the dominant aspect of the gene, then there is only a 1/4 chance that the offspring would be ADAM afflicted.

    Hopefully that's the right way to go with this... Like I said, it's been a while since I did any biology and I am limited to what I learned in highschool. And it all depends on whether or not ADAM changes can even be passed on... Genetics is complex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    Well, I suppose it would depend on whether or not the changes made by ADAM were recessive or not. I haven't done much study in biology in a while, but the whole genetics side of it was interesting at the time... Lets see what I can remember from highschool.

    Lets say that ADAM works in a way that it alters both parents genes. A = ADAM changes, but each parent would still have "traces" of what their genes were before. Let's say that = a.

    Both Parents offer half of their genes to the offspring, and both parents have a genotype as follows: Aa

    So, this is the diagram we come up with:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/genotype.jpg

    So, here we can see that an offspring has a 1/4 chance to be "normal," that is to say without ADAM changes. This assumes that ADAM is a dominant change to the system... but if it is recessive and the little a is the dominant aspect of the gene, then there is only a 1/4 chance that the offspring would be ADAM afflicted.

    Hopefully that's the right way to go with this... Like I said, it's been a while since I did any biology and I am limited to what I learned in highschool. And it all depends on whether or not ADAM changes can even be passed on... Genetics is complex
    Actually, from what I can remember, that sounds about right Codex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    Well, I suppose it would depend on whether or not the changes made by ADAM were recessive or not. I haven't done much study in biology in a while, but the whole genetics side of it was interesting at the time... Lets see what I can remember from highschool.

    Lets say that ADAM works in a way that it alters both parents genes. A = ADAM changes, but each parent would still have "traces" of what their genes were before. Let's say that = a.

    Both Parents offer half of their genes to the offspring, and both parents have a genotype as follows: Aa

    So, this is the diagram we come up with:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...s/genotype.jpg

    So, here we can see that an offspring has a 1/4 chance to be "normal," that is to say without ADAM changes. This assumes that ADAM is a dominant change to the system... but if it is recessive and the little a is the dominant aspect of the gene, then there is only a 1/4 chance that the offspring would be ADAM afflicted.

    Hopefully that's the right way to go with this... Like I said, it's been a while since I did any biology and I am limited to what I learned in highschool. And it all depends on whether or not ADAM changes can even be passed on... Genetics is complex
    This is correct assuming the parents are heterozygotes (Aa) as the diagram shows, and assuming that the effects of Adam work in a simple recessive and dominant way. In actual fact there are very few genes that behave in this way especially the more complex of a trait they code for. For instance eye colour is very complex and simple dominance and recessive modelling cant be used to show the inheritance of the trait. So i would assume something that changes your genetics so much that you can do supernatural things would be extremely complicated and would have to occur between multiple loci and there would probably be some extreme problems introducing so much DNA into our genome that my guess is you would not be able to have viable children anymore.

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    Ewwww....splicer sex...

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    There you go. Yeah, my knowledge doesn't extend beyond a grade 12 examination of genetics. It is far more possible that they become sterile after that much ADAM usage, or if my theory of the fact that continued ADAM usage turns people in to giant goo monsters is correct they could end up reproducing asexually.

    It's kind of sad though. Rapture would completly die out after one generation then, unless of course there are some unspliced individuals running around in hiding.

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    yeah from what I remember from biology it sounds correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post
    I think she was pulling your leg. I highly doubt the hamster literally exploded unless she plugged both ends of it first so the gases couldn't escape.

    A Microwave is very similar to a tanning bed but on a smaller scale. The microwaves penetrate from the outside in, they do not cook from the inside out. Your "8 year old" PETA hating friend was most likely joking.

    EDIT: The hamster probably did die because the oxygen in the chamber thins which would cause it to suffocate, not instantly, but if she let it 'cook' for like 3-5 minutes, yeah it's dead. Your friend is brain dead to start with, at 8 a child knows something is wrong when an animal rolls on it's back or starts to flail in pain.



    I still disagree, we have no idea what kind of consequences could occur by taking DNA modified by splicing/plasmids and using it's base pairs as the starting blueprint for a fetus. A properly formed fetus may not occur and the fetus splits in half and ends up as goo.

    It's not a black and white issue where you can safely say the genetic effects from plasmids on an adult is the same on a child.
    "Microwave heating works by heating the water in foods. The frequency used in microwave ovens optimally heats water molecules. The microwave energy is converted into heat energy of the water molecules, which in turn heat the other molecules in the food. That is why dry foods such as rice and pasta will not cook in a microwave unless they are in some water."

    We are all water based life-forms (57% of our body weight comes in water), so the hamster exploding in the microwave isn't as far-fetched as you would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post
    If you place a dog in a microwave what will happen to it?

    A: Die
    B: Nothing
    C: Hair Starts To Shed & Fall Rapidly
    D: Cook Internally

    HINT: The answer is not D.
    There is no answer to the question btw.
    A the dog will die.. because his blood starts to boil

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    That is true not to mention a lot of proteins would start denaturing lol, it would probably start to cause DNA to denature as well haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by gloher View Post
    A the dog will die.. because his blood starts to boil
    No the blood does not boil, it would boil in an oven if you let the dog sit in their long enough and the oven was on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhlyPinoy View Post
    "Microwave heating works by heating the water in foods. The frequency used in microwave ovens optimally heats water molecules. The microwave energy is converted into heat energy of the water molecules, which in turn heat the other molecules in the food. That is why dry foods such as rice and pasta will not cook in a microwave unless they are in some water."

    We are all water based life-forms (57% of our body weight comes in water), so the hamster exploding in the microwave isn't as far-fetched as you would think.
    The Hamster would die in an oven to, but water will not boil until it has had a while to cook. Distilled water will not boil because it has no impurities, it is the impurities in the water that causes it to boil. That does not mean that distilled water does not cook/heat up it does, but it won't boil. Rice and pasta will cook in a microwave, the rice will get very hot and eventually burn, water only hydrates the rice so it's easier to manage, cook, and consume.

    The hamster would not die right away, same as if it was placed in an oven. There is no answer to the original question because the question can be debated.

    The original question is:

    If you place a dog in a microwave what will happen to it?

    A: Die
    B: Nothing
    C: Hair Starts To Shed & Fall Rapidly
    D: Cook Internally

    HINT: The answer is not D.
    There is no answer to the question btw.

    The question never mentions what settings the microwave are on, or if its on to begin with. The answer is clearly not D.

    If I just place the dog in the microwave and don't start the magnetron, and take the dog out, then B is correct.

    Depending on the amount of radiation the dog is bombarded with, its hair could fall off but I don't think any economical microwave delivers enough radiation to cause this, not 100% sure so C is Plausible.

    If I leave the dog in the microwave and never remove it the dog dies from malnutrition, if I start the microwave and leave it on for a long period, the dog will die because it will suffocate. The dog would warm up on the surface first, and would die from suffocation before it internally 'cooked'.

    Microwave Ovens cook from the outside-in.

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    Why does this thread remind of Schrödinger's cat?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

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    Distilled water does boil, without the impurities its even closer to boiling at 100 deg celcius Im not sure where you got that from...
    The answer is nothing unless you turn on the microwave and depending on how long and what level it is on at will depend if it dies, though im not sure what the cause of death would be from exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blightspeaker View Post
    Distilled water does boil, without the impurities its even closer to boiling at 100 deg celcius Im not sure where you got that from...
    The answer is nothing unless you turn on the microwave and depending on how long and what level it is on at will depend if it dies, though im not sure what the cause of death would be from exactly.
    I did mention the water will heat up but it will not boil, like typical tap water or hard water, but yes it will get super hot/super heat. I found this video on youtube, to help explain what I mean.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_OXM4mr_i0

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post
    I did mention the water will heat up but it will not boil, like typical tap water or hard water, but yes it will get super hot/super heat. I found this video on youtube, to help explain what I mean.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_OXM4mr_i0

    I see what youre saying, basically in a microwave distilled water will basically skip the boiling phase and superheat, that makes more sense. Distilled water still can boil but maybe given the circumstances of the microwave will not. Regardless the water in blood would heat to critical temperatures and would be lethal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post
    If you place a dog in a microwave what will happen to it?

    A: Die
    B: Nothing
    C: Hair Starts To Shed & Fall Rapidly
    D: Cook Internally

    HINT: The answer is not D.
    There is no answer to the question btw.
    Nothing. The situation didn't say the microwave door was shut or the microwave was turned on to cooking mode.

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    I already posted the gimmick to the question, and the question has been in this thread for a while now. BTW the question is similar to Schrödinger's cat as mentioned above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeertapper View Post
    If you place a dog in a microwave what will happen to it?

    A: Die
    B: Nothing
    C: Hair Starts To Shed & Fall Rapidly
    D: Cook Internally

    HINT: The answer is not D.
    There is no answer to the question btw.
    It ends up on a plate with mashed potatoes and spring peas, served with a red wine.

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    ADAM, making sex better for all the family!

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    Aww... I like animals

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