I was thinking about buying Mafia because all I've been reading on these forums are about how great that game was compared to this, but I have a quick question that maybe you guys can help me out with. I don't have internet connection at my house, so if I purchase the game for XBOX and try to play it in my 360, is there something I have to download in order to play it? Any and all help, as usual, is appreciated. Thanks!
the good one is the pc version, cos of the controls, graphics, etc..Originally Posted by medric822
and about the troubling, yes you need to conect to xbox live for an actualization which allows you to play xbox games.
PD: you'll see that mafia II is almost a tribute to the first one, nothing more, well maybe a bit more
as far as I know the Xbox Version of Mafia isn't supported on Xbox 360.
PC Version is much better anyway
As much as I love Mafia, I still think it's one of the best games made, it hasn't aged all that well.
The graphics are still OK, and the story is as awesome as ever, but the combat is sometimes clunky.
To play Xbox games on the 360, you would need an emulator.
It's really not worth the effort, though, and it's a much better experience on the PC.
The PC version doesn't require an Internet connection.
Just copy the 1.2/1.3 patch to a removable drive/media and install it.
no. dont buy it. i have it for ps2 and its a heaping pile of crap. dont know if the pc version is better or not. people say it is but they dont really explain how.
pc gamers, would you kindly explain how the pc version is better, aside from graphics and mods?
hes talking about the first one. i didnt know trolls couldnt read.
You don't explain why it's not either.
I don't know much about the console versions, but Illusion didn't do the porting, and from my understanding a lot of things were missing and not included.
The PC version is great because the car physics are perfect, the police are realistic, the story and music is brillant, the missions are varied, the characters are likeable, the city is huge and there's various ways of getting to a destination.
i did, but it was awhile ago in that mafiaVSmafiaII poll i think.
no cover system, all the cars look the same (which is understandable, its the 30's. but people were listing more cars as a reason why the first was better. lol). the reticle is so freakin huge you cant see what youre aiming at unless youre close, hit detection is horrible, it has to load every time you go to the other half of the city, no music, health boxes are an endangered species, its impossible to aim precisely, you die in just a few shots (this combined with bad hit detection, bad aiming, giant reticle, and losing ammo when you reload makes it almost impossible to win against multiple foes).
thats some of it. is any of that fixed for the pc version or does it simply look better?
There's no cover system in the PC version. I don't like them anyway.
There's dozens of different cars, so many that you have to remove some from your garage as it fills up.
The crosshair in the PC version is small and unobtrusive.
The music is great and perfect for the era.
Health pills aren't that common, and you still die from a few shots.
However, this isn't a run and gun game, and I like the difficulty.
It can be brutal in some sections, but I never found it frustrating.
As I said, Illusion didn't do the console porting, so you're probably playing a very different game.
yes, theres plenty of cars, but theyre all the same. again there really is no music. if its not a run and gun game, there should be a cover system.
so nothing is really different. ya, dont get it OP
The cars are not all the same.
You haven't played the PC version, so you wouldn't know if the cars were all the same or not.
Yes there's music. I don't know how I can be any clearer than that.
You say there's no music, but again, you haven't played the PC version so you can't really make that call.
Also it doesn't need a cover system, I managed fine without it.
And cover systems aren't perfect and have their drawbacks.
The game wasn't designed for a cover system and therefore doesn't really need it.
Anyway, how many games from 2002 do you know that had a good cover system?
There's plenty different, I think you just don't like the game because you found it too difficult, and no matter what anyone says, you'll never like it.
That's too bad for you, the game is a masterpiece.
maybe the story is a masterpiece, the game is a different kind of piece.
again i dont know about the pc version, and it doesnt seem like anyone has both to make a comparison. but i do know in the ps2 version the only music is in cutscenes and such, the only music you get while playing is 4 or 5 songs that you can barely hear. and i do know that in the ps2 version the cars are mostly all the same. you have the square cars, and you have the more round cars. all the square cars look exactly alike, and all the round ones do as well. theres a very small number of more unique cars. but thats it. theres nothing wrong with it, its the 30s. but no one should mention more cars or a variety of cars as something good about the game.
lack of cover system would be fine if it werent for those other problems (lack of health, die fast, hard to aim, hard to see what youre aiming at)
doesnt really matter what you or anyone else things, thats not why i dont like it.
That' fine, you're entitled to not like it.
But there's dozens of different cars in the PC version, and they all look different and handle differently.
I don't know of another game that has this many cars.
The number is mind-boggling, and the attention to detail for each car is superb.
The music is also good and plays almost continuously.
And you can't really expect a 2002 game to have a cover system.
Kill Switch was the first game to incorporate a cover system, and that was released in 2004.
As I said, the console port is no indication of how the PC game is.
That's a console only limitation. The PS2 had 32MB Ram and the Xbox 64MB (shared with GPU). Simply not enough for the entire town.
Other limitations were the massively reduced car/damage physics and a lot of other stuff. They even shortened a lot of the missions.
The textures are absolute lowres and even the draw distance was much worth compared to the pc version. While the draw distance for the pc version wasn't great either it looks much better with a draw distance mod.
Mafia 1 simply was never meant to be a console game. Autoaiming and all that aids that console gamers need to be able to "aim" didn't exist in the original game (the pc version)
Well, I guess my main concern is that I'll buy this game, and I wouldn't be able to get past a certain mission. That's what happened with San Andreas with me, I couldn't get past the one race, since I couldn't find the install disc for my Logitec controller I bought for MVP Baseball 2005. Any idea if this controller will work for the game, provided I find the install disc?
I just re-bought it from Steam. I already own it on disk (somewhere) and will be replaying it. If you get stuck at the race PM me and ill send you a save file.
I currently have Mafia installed, and my Logitech Rumblepad 2 works fine.
You shouldn't have any problems.
Not really needed with the 1.2/1.3 patch.
Once installed, it gives you more options for the race and makes it much easier.
Or, you can always "cut corners" on the race track.
Last edited by Kleetus; 10-01-2010 at 04:25 AM.
Blasphemy! Lol i love the race mission. Currently playing F1 2010 and they don't let ya touch a kurb without penalty!
I am glad i re bought it though, the ease of use on steam, and the fact the i can't find the disks make it hard.
I've only ever won the Mafia race (unpatched, with a controller and not a wheel) once.
And that took me 5 tries, and a lot of swearing.
Last edited by Kleetus; 10-01-2010 at 05:14 AM.
its actually not that hard if you turn the dif all the way down
It was difficult before they patched it, and turning down the difficulty made no difference.
It wasn't impossible, but it took a few tries.
in mafia 1 i could beat the race no problem with the patch that included a fix for difficulty setting for the race
There was a little trick you could do before the patch.
Turn left down that blocked off road, and as soon as it tells you "Wrong Way", hit the vehicle respawn button.
This spawns you back at the start line, with one lap completed.
Do this five times and you win.
They stopped that with the patch, making your vehicle flip upside-down, if you go down that road.
I got stuck on that mission for a month when I first played the game... I was very, very close to throwing my monitor out of the window and taking a baseball bat to it because of that mission.
Apparently it wasn't a prob that the devs could foresee, because from what i've read they were all using wheels to drive. It is much easier with a proper wheel-FF setup.
You mean just because they all had wheels, everyone else must also have them?
It's pretty obvious to anyone that wheels are a niche product that most gamers don't own.
well, as im sure you know. i have it on ps2 so no patches. took me i think 4 tries on the easiest mode. i dont consider that too bad. turning down the difficulty made a big difference.
But the PS2 version, same as the Xbox version was a very bad port of the pc version and came out almost two years after the pc version. The difficulty setting was already part of it from the beginning. The overall game was made a lot easier and simpler compared to the pc version. Only problem that remained was that even with some sort of auto aiming it was never intended to be played with a controller (at least the shooting part)
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