i mean ur condeming 2k just over one game its like ok we hate mafia 2 now 2k sucks. everyone deserves a second chance, so what if 2k cut half the game and are going to release it in dlc's its only an extra 10 bucks. 2k have put so much care into this game.
Its like 2k saying to u negative ppl u have wasted half of ur life doing nothing.
give 2k some respect
They deleted great features from the game. They made Daniel Vavrá leave the team. They released a bad DLC that obviously was rushed, even with content that already should have been in the game, and was more like gta than mafia. ''what if 2k cut half the game and release it in dlcs only for 10 extra bucks.''. It's simply not going to happen and if it did, I believe even more people would loose respect for them.Originally Posted by eddiescarpa112
If it wasn't to all the people complaining about mafia 2 I would have bought the game and wasted money on it.
So I am truly greatfull to all the people that criticize the game so great. I would love to play through the story but it won't happen. I don't pay to play games by greedy gaming companies.
By the way, I am not a negative person at all so you're wrong. You're not a negative person because you are critic. For me, there's no reason to give 2k respect for the game. Respect is earned, not given, and I give all my respect to Daniel Vavrá & CO who made the first game.
Last edited by Cyper; 09-23-2010 at 06:50 PM.
they might have not earned ur respect but they earned mine!
I'm on two sides for this whole arguement.
So the game for me was brilliant and I gave it a 8.5 I think in my review / summary of it all. What is on the disc is great, the cars, map, missions, graphics, all great.
The problem is what is "not" there and what was originally there, a lot of it is hearsay but I just watched a few movies on YouTube from last year and they show extra missions from Derek, extra cars and cutscenes changing the storyline (highlighted on the map at the bottom with a star), which if you have played Jimmy is how the missions are highlighted in the Jimmy DLCs.
To me it seems 2K Czech made a 10/10 game, but when it was sent to 2K to finalize that was the point when things were changed to their liking for DLC content. There is no reason why the coders and the people who developed the storyline and designed the game would even think about the DLC and money side of things.
From a business point of view, it seems right as they spent a lot of time and money on the game and it needs to be recouped, but when you release videos of content that is not in the game, and when people play the game they know content has been cut from a few characters that's extremely damaging to the game and review scores that were given pre release. In my opinion it was a bad business choice and I do think if they left the game as is when it came from 2K Czech and it was given 9s and 10s from reviewers (which it would of no doubt, it's Mafia after all), I do think sales would be a lot higher at the moment, because reviews do make people buy the game, and I think the people who have bought the game are the ones who were going to buy it anyway even if the review scores were 5/10.
The people that read reviews and base their buying opinions on scores are the ones that needed to be targetted and they wern't.
I told 4 people to buy the game and they did and enjoyed it, but if it wasn't for me they wouldn't have as like they said, it only got around 7/10 and when you have games released around the same time or slightly in the future that are going to be getting higher scores then those people will buy that game and not the lowered score one.
Last edited by NMajor; 09-23-2010 at 07:05 PM.
I read this thread while listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7BRp...eature=related . So its kinda sad...
so that's why you made that petition?
No. I can't do it
I tried to take you seriously but I just couldn't, you are making pro 2K threads left and right so...
Why are YOU so positive?
I am not thank u very much im just actually complimenting 2k im not saying its gd or bad. yes it would have been nice if they released the whole game but we got what we got now suck it up
stop hating on 2k.
"They made a bad DLC"
What is bad about it? I think its pretty damn fun. A great way to extend the game between doing M2 missions. As it was intended.
Agreed, everyone who hates on the game and 2k are just mad that it never became the "OMG GOTY 2010!!!111" that they thought it would be, due to the overhyping they brought upon themselves and fact that many before release were predicting it to be a 'perfect' game. You people only have yourselves to blame.
Last edited by Mr.Big_Daddy; 09-23-2010 at 10:13 PM.
Sorry but that is a load of crap.
(And before you bash me, read my previous threads on the game, I've given it a lot of respect and awarded it around 8/10).
Theyre spearheading a trend that encourages simultaneous developement of game and DLC. This model is based on profit to the direct detriment of creative content developement. I play games for the creativity and joy that is put into them by the dev team. Not to line pockets of greedy CEO's. Like all things corrupt, the trend will grow until the greedy controllers have decimated all creative force that they exploit or untill the consumers themselves, rebel. Look how EA shows its appreciation to its dev's (i.e., creative hostages) for one of the most profitable games to date. By trying to squeeze more profit by screwing them over. Same thing with companies like Clear Channel, Frito Lay, Chevron, They want ultimate control of all avenues, IP rights, production, distribution, etc. How can the creative genius that brings us this art, survive under the tyranny of these profiteering megalomaniacs? Its clear, the avenues that 2k has chosen, by their actions. While a lot of us dont understand the true tragedy of this condition, many do sense the conflict of interests and understand that its greatly detracting from the true potential. Profit is the foundation for developement in the free world, however there is a right way to do buisness and a wrong way. Fight tryanny in life and in buisness. America is home of the free, not home of the exploited.
Gamers of the free world unite!
...or you could choose just not to buy said game.
The story is terrible and cliched. Of course people have the right to say negative stuff about it. Its particularly made worse when Mafia 2 is a game that focuses on the story. The whole game is ruined because the story stinks. It doesn't matter what they left out of the game, its the story that is ☺☺☺☺ing ☺☺☺☺.
Last edited by Codex; 09-24-2010 at 02:29 AM. Reason: mod edit: don't bypass the filter
because theyre pc gamers, they feel entitled to everything they want and when the game isnt absolutely perfect they whine like children. just ignore them. theyll stop eventually.
Hey guys,
Please don't turn this into a console war or attack each other.
pc isnt really a console, it is a platform though.
while youre here, why are those packs so expensive? you cant even use the outfits with jimmy, and thats who i think most people would use this stuff with (seeing as jimmy has a save system)
consoles and pc do the same thing,run an os,play games,and connect to the internet.pc does have better graphics due to newer hardware and they can mod games.
on topic
-Some of us are negative about the game because of the short story and the below
-These "jobs" or as stated in the manual "quests" do not pop up more than once.
-The lack of free roam after you complete the game(no saving unless you got jv).
-This trailer shows a cut side mission http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omY93dIH8pc
-Betrayal of jimmy only offered to one platform.
-Jimmy's vandetta can be enabled on pc version,its missing a face texture,and him using vito's apartments
-People having problems in missions(doors won't open) and falling through the map.
-Can't work for derek or bruski,crushing cars and selling them is not fun.
Theres so much more but it would be too long.
This could of been really good and on top of the charts for weeks.Its a shame the first mafia is better.
If they have a 2009 version of the game i would like to play it due to more content being there.
I finished Mafia 2 yesterday and I had a lot of fun with it, I'd give it 9/10 so I'm at a loss to explain why people hate it so much, sure stuff got taken out but so what? The game publisher and developer are free to do as they please with the game before it is released, I'm just grateful they released it at all!
I had no gliches or crashes during the whole time I played it, it run smooth in my humble system and it looked great, also I loved going on the freeway at high speed and turning the corner as fast as I could that was fun... great game, looking forward to part 3.
play the first game and you will be angry.the first has a longer story side missions and a free roam with save,it offers more.
Why make such comments, I'm a pc user but I also defend console users, if we do not stick together then games will continue to become more mediocre, all the games industry need to do these days is slap a good image on the cover, sold!, the whole point of feedback is to get the games industry to make more effort, not to keep cheering them on, people want more bang for their buck and rightly so, the continued war between platforms is why the industry are settling for giving less for more, these are not the bedroom geeks anymore that used to create games out of passion, this is a multibillion dollar industry whose only goal is profit, well they need to earn that profit!
Guys, you've been told to drop all the "console vs pc" talk. Please knock it off and let's keep this thread from getting locked.
Thanks!
My apologies, the question is, why are some so negative, the answer, we got a lot less than expected!
I played the first one, and I'm not angry.
i posted wrong instead of angry,disappointed is a better wordI played the first one, and I'm not angry.
You know, I've heard the claim that Mafia II's story was significantly shorter than the first one's many times, and it never quite seemed true... Last playthrough of Mafia I played, it took me about 11 hours, including all side missions, cutscenes, etc. Quite a bit shorter than the 20 hour claims I've been hearing, unless the infamous racing mission added 5-9 hours to everyone's first playthough. :P
Of course, this isn't saying anything against Mafia 1... It remains my favourite game of all time, and I've replayed it with/without mods to the point that I've spent more hours on it than most people have spent in Oblivion. XD I think I'll be playing Mafia I and II both for years to come.
I actually prefer shorter games and replay them a lot more... They feel a lot less like a commitment, and the pace of the story is less glacial. :P
Hate is a strong word, I'd go with disappointed. I felt that I got an appetiser, (albeit it a tasty one), instead of the 3 course meal that I was expecting, after the fantastic Mafia, (PC version).
a nice example...i felt like i bought a tv...a tv without a screen, remote controller and cables...but i have the case at least and i can think how fantastic screen and colours the tv had. for mafia 2...i can only imagine how fantastic the story was with vito´s girlfriend monique...his sister and mother...what about charlie lopes, loony...deleted...what plot was then and then when i listen to the soundtrack...aaaah yes this screenshot was deleted too...it was a mission to protect jolanda...everything is broken and noone can make a mosaic from all the removed evidence we have. we can only imagine how epic the story was...
OP, go sit in the bathroom and jerk it to 2K games
Don't get those people who dislike 2k wrong. we like the graphics of the game and the weather effecting everyone in the game. But the thing is that is all 2k is going get out of those that paid the 60 bucks. I've played Mass Effect 2 they have improved in there graphics, storyline, side missions and so on. It doesn't look like they cut out anything. I've replayed Mass Effect 2 over 5 times. Mafia 2 not even after i finished it.
What i expect while playing Mafia 2 was equal to the Godfathers game. Side missions, crews, jobs, and getting money from business rather being a robber.
That is what i expected from the Mafia 2 game. I saw and heard the words used as "family" and "made man" along with "Dons" used just as equal the god fathers game. But that is the only few things i seen that were the same. only thing different was no side missions, favors, jobs, or gain own business to gain the money. That was disappointing. As the trailers shown of this game was so to side of the side missions. Which they were cut out before the release of the game.
I expected abit of the same from the godfather game but better improvement for the Mafia 2 game, instead, God father1 beats Mafia 2.
Joey
no,no,no,no,no I want dlc with 10$ WITH IT
Because everyone is all of a sudden an expert at creating video games.
If 2K does not turn a profit on Mafia 2, you will never see a Mafia 3. No other publisher in the world would have taken a chance creating a realistic story driven crime game. It's hard to sell that to casual gamers (who make up the vast majority of consumers)
The driving alone is better than most pure driving games. They spent alot of time creating a game for us when they could have been churning out arcade crap for casual gamers.
Unfortunately, we will never see a game like Mafia again.
"My character can't sit down, we can't ride a train, it's too short, I can't shoot while driving, too many cut scenes, not enough cut scenes, everything was cut and evil 2K is robbing us blind with these DLC's, etc..."
Maybe because gamers don't like forking out top $ for a half finshed game and then get treated like morons and expected to buy DLC, that would a good start.
And the fact that complaining on these forums has a longer play through then the actual game itself lol
Seriously, this game got old real quick. Good ideas but when you have less features then Vice City, its not going to hold your attention for very long.
And seems like complaining about the game is the only thing keeping it alive LOL As soon as you start a thread about actual game play, its gets knocked back to the 10th page coz another 100 "hate" threads are posted lol
i was just asking
And I was just telling lol
Who made you "fork" over money? Who is making you buy DLC content? If you don't like the game then why are you here?
You're correct, the very loud minority who dislike Mafia to the point of running a smear campaign have taken over this forum. The vast majority of people who bought this game love it. Please show 2k some respect. They did an amazing job.
Last edited by PuepleCity; 09-26-2010 at 11:38 AM.
Minority?, are we reading the same forum?
Most of what I see on here are complaints, if not about the cut content, it will be about silly achievments, we maybe the most vocal but certainly not a minority, every poll about the game attributes have been against not for, if we were the minority then those polls should have come out for the game, you don't have to be vocal to click the vote.
funny the 6000+ minority say otherwise... hmm the ones that love it good for them. 2k has SOME respect on the graphics, weather effects, and the music. But thats it.
To you they did an amazing job but to me no they didn't. I expected ways to get quick money instead of robbing from clothing and gun stores. Funny there isn't any banks. I expected side missions from the junk yard and from the ware house. instead i get "Sorry i got no job for you" through the game. Once joined the "Family" i don't get a crew to fight with me. When Vito and Joe get alittle too drunk lets call a cab...Oh that was cut out...
Piss off the cops so way take the train... Oh that was cut out to. Yet Joe and Henry are supermen because they can be shot at alot but when Vito is shot at he can die...
Like i stated 2k has some respect and they did a good job on the pro's. But there are too many con's in the game they don't get the "amazing job" you say they did.
From my view against yours we agree to disagree.
Joey
Voting is generally done by unhappy people. Either way, not being happy with the game and running a relentless smear campaign are two very different things.
I know... 2k cheated you out of your hard earned money by maliciously deceiving you with all the cut scenes that weren't in the final game. Then callously robbing you even further with all the DLC content that you believe you were entitled to in the first place. And to further salt the injustice, they won't even let you shoot a gun while driving. And you feel it necessary to warn all the other unsuspecting common fools out there about the atrocity that has been committed.
The developers gave their blood and sweat to create a game like this. Show some respect.
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