What is this? The civilipedia has NOTHING on it when you search, it doesnt give any advice, no tool tip, you cant find anything on this. what does it do, and why isnt it explained?
What is this? The civilipedia has NOTHING on it when you search, it doesnt give any advice, no tool tip, you cant find anything on this. what does it do, and why isnt it explained?
It is just a minor boost in friendiness. It has no other tangible effects as far as I can tell. I believe it was mentioned in a different thread that "it is covered in the manual", but I haven't gotten that far yet.
Does that go the same for that pact of secrecy? and the manual? come on now, who actually buys physical copies of their games anymore
I think he was talking about the PDF manual. The one that comes with retail has next to nothing in it, I think (didn't read, too shortOriginally Posted by PsychoSimatic
Does that go the same for that pact of secrecy? and the manual? come on now, who actually buys physical copies of their games anymore)
non-physical manual.... and the manual? come on now, who actually buys physical copies of their games anymore
Let me refer you to the thread of the exact same title as yours. The search on the 2K forums works!
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/sho...ht=cooperation
if you watch Sid's speech from the Game Developers Conference a couple years ago, he talks about games as psychology
I think these pacts are there to mess with your head. The AI is just going to do what it wants to do whether or not you're in the way. If someone else is in the way, they probably ask everyone for a pact of cooperation
Once that obstacle is removed, and you're now the one in the way, the pact of cooperation ends
Its there to get the player to feel like someone is on their side, to set them up for the AI to backstab them
And it works. I was on a continent with japan, we were friends, we constantly traded luxury resources, we did research agreements...after ~150 turns of cooperation like that he asked for open borders, thinking that like in Civ IV, open borders can improve your relationship. He immediatley moved in his troops and was suddenly pissed off and attacked me.
I was heartbroken. It was my first game and I really like going for diplomatic victory. But it seems the ONLY way to do that in CIV V is to pay off all the city states AND/or liberate them and conquored civs.
If you hold the mouse over the button on the diplomacy screen when its offered to you, it tells you EXACTLY what it does. Pact of Cooperation gives a slight bonus to your relationship with that civ. Pact of Secrecy lowers the relationship between both of you & the person you sign it against, & makes the civ you sign it with more likely to go to war in the future against the civ you sign it against.
so real tangible bonus at all? just complete waste of time bull ☺☺☺☺? ya so much for these huge improvements, why not make it give a production bonus for all the roads you build between you and other civ or something, a trade off but make it something to do.... why even include garbage like this?
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