I would have paid 100$ to get full game with all content
I prefer DLC's
If You had been asked how You will this game to be released. Would You have prefer
to pay higher price (100$) immediately - or the current way: 60$ of platform and x*10$ for DLC's.
By chosing to pay 100$ immediately - You would have got an game without need to changes like Vito to Jimmy etc.
Comments...
Last edited by prinitor; 09-09-2010 at 05:56 PM.
I'll wait for bundle pack after all the dlcs are released.
None
Why isn't it possible to buy a game in 2010 for the normal retail price of 50 euros and receive a full game??
Because DLC has proven to be very profitable.Originally Posted by InFAILity Ward
I'd want content that isn't as **** as jimmys. Free roam and content that was cut for some reason should be added... And not as dlc. Actually I'd rarer more cars and outfits than jimmies content.
Last edited by City 17; 09-10-2010 at 01:45 AM.
Well, I personally wouldn't have minded paying more if that's what it took, but I only buy downloadable content for a limited amount of titles, so the current route doesn't bother me much.
None, bad vote, I'll pay the normal going rate for a full game, the only time I might pay over the odds is if they included a SDK.
I take c .... but can't choose it .....
I don't get it, you can get both right now for $60
My idea with this poll was that as we can see 60$ was not enough for 2K - they want more and chosed to sell DLC's.. The other option would have been honestly sell game at higher price - and without tricks and cutting content.
If they sell e.g. 4 DLC's - the total price will anyhow be 100$ - but the same time game is kind of spoiled with Jimmy to Vito etc tricks.
Last edited by prinitor; 09-09-2010 at 11:54 PM.
100$ for a game is a sick load of money, so no def not 100 but more like 70 at the max. Then i'll expect EVERYTHING they cut from the final game.
Capiche?
as long as i get my free roam with save thats the only dlc i will buy.any missions pack i will not buy because i have been cheated
Last edited by rick2201; 09-10-2010 at 03:37 AM.
Around 40% of this game is missing, are you kidding me!?, it's not even worth $60, $30 to $40 at best, the only reason I'm keeping it is in the forelorn hope they replace the missing content for free!
Honestly i think the whole gaming industry is a joke these days, but its not their fault they still just can sell what people buy.
For example, have you ever thought about the fact, that every game costs about the same ammount of money at the release, no matter how high or low the production-costs were? I guess that should "ring a bell". The funny thing is even though they butcher the games they still havent understood market it seems.
For example there is a price, where people think much less about the thing they are buying and just buy spontanious, its different from person to person, but i guess 30-40 Dollars are a good mark. So as an example if i were CEO and i would be really greedy i would make a rather short game like Mafia 2 and sell it at 34.99 Dollars (you might think i will loose money due to this) but actually i will probably even gain money since yes the individual sale will get me less profit, yet by reducing the price i will create much more demand (for example take a look at steam sales). But not only that, by spreading the game to as much consumers as possible i will have a great base for selling DLC which i can price at 15-20 Dollars i guess.
But i wouldnt only sell DLC, i would insert free content at times, no big stuff, just cheap crap. And guess what, most people will be pleased and you would have a great imge, you have good "start-price" combined with good community-service.
I would even think of a SDK, yes it may take away some of your DLC area, still it will extend the live of the game and also the live of future DLCs which will be pointed at the one thing that modders can hardly do. Story-Addons. Maybe it would even be a great idea to make free DLC-Compilations from good mods to spread them further to casual-people to extend the life of the game.
Or for example if i was in public relations at 2K-Games, i would try to save the game by the things i said above. Im pretty shure a lot of people would be pleased even by some really small free-DLCs.
Dont get me wrong i still wouldnt like such a strategy but im just pointing out the obvious here.
But hey, what do i know im not one of thos guys that were able to get a potential goty-game a 74 rating on metacritic and rather bad reviews even in mainstream-media ...
Last edited by DonNatcho; 09-10-2010 at 03:49 AM.
This part does not really make sense, I know several talented modders, but even they lack the resources to come up with the things a company can produce, so I don't see modding as any kind of threat to DLC, unless the DLC itself sucks, did someone say Jimmy!
The last mission in Jimmy made it all worth it :PThis part does not really make sense, I know several talented modders, but even they lack the resources to come up with the things a company can produce, so I don't see modding as any kind of threat to DLC, unless the DLC itself sucks, did someone say Jimmy!
I heard that. Because someone found out that DLC sells. It's just business. Money rules everything. And sometimes.. It sucks.
I've been playing a lot of old games lately, like Bad Mojo, Broken Sword, Hopkins FBI, stuff like that. I'm sad to say it but old games are the ☺☺☺☺, they weren't all made to milk cash out of the consumers. They had soul. Like Mafia I. Not saying II is bad, I enjoy it but it does feel like they rushed the hell out of it.
Only because it was an asset cut from the main game. Just think of all the plot threads and characters that are missing because they cut it for Jimmy's finale.
I may havent wrote it clear enough i meant things like change of colors of cloths, changing driving-physics, adding new cars etc.This part does not really make sense, I know several talented modders, but even they lack the resources to come up with the things a company can produce, so I don't see modding as any kind of threat to DLC, unless the DLC itself sucks, did someone say Jimmy!
lets get real. 2k is trying to make the most money possible. that means dishing out a 60 dollar game and then milking it for all its worth by putting on dlc's of things that (let's be frank) should have been in the finished game at the start. each dlc they will prob charge 800 MS points. it's all just a piss take.
but i guess it's understandable, 2k is trying to make money after all!
But is the way they chosed the only one ?
Is it so mandatory to keep every games price tag under 60$ - I would have rather paid 100$ for a decent game than 60$ + n*10$ for an butchered one ...
I think you would be a very succesful gaming company CEO
Wanna start one?
The game is $100 in Australia, so getting all DLC with the game for the same price would be fine by me.
Of course i rather would have liked the complete game for 100 bucks instead of getting ripped off and tricked by the publisher.
but i think the bottom line is this: noone would ever bought it in the first place if they putted on that price tag right from the start. currently im selling my steamaccount with mafia II. No more tricking me with DLC anymore. Bethesda is making good games aswell. No need for 2K and rockstar anymore.
Last edited by dagger; 09-11-2010 at 04:08 PM.
Rampant DLC abuse by game companies is the reason every gamer needs to have Captain Jack Sparrow as their alter ego. It just seems that's the only way to get a full game for the full retail price. Think about it like this if you bought a new car for 30K but after you payed the money you found out the car is missing the engine transmission and wheels/tires and keys but the dealer tells ya you can buy those missing pieces for some more money and you will have complete car. That is pretty much what game companies like 2k are doing they are selling you a stripped down game for full retail price then selling the missing pieces on top of the retail price so you can have the complete game. Thats why having a alter ego of Captain Jack Sparrow is necessary so when companies like 2k sell you a game at full retail price you can make sure you get the full game you payed for.
They have been making great games for a long time. Ever heard of morrowind ? That is hands down one of the most epic RPGs of all time. Very few games have ever come close to morrowind's epicness and that is including it's upgrade oblivion. I won't be to hard on 2k though cuz they did have a hand in civ4 and i loved that game and still play it from time to time and haven't really found a better turn based rts yet. But what made civ4 so awesome was the lack of DLC only fools wish for DLC because DLC = a license for companies to steal money from you.
Last edited by prez420; 09-11-2010 at 05:12 PM.
Sorry but thats exactly our problem, your logic is lacking.
If there is a car-dealer that sells cars without engines for the same price as others, your obvious reaction should be simply not to buy there. By not buying there since its a company it will adapt to the market.
If you still buy the game but pirate DLCs or even pirate the Game. You show the company that there is a lot of demand for their game. And you give them someone to blame for their failur. This will probably lead to the company making the main game even shorter add stronger DRM and sell even more DLCs. Since even if you buy the main game but not the DLC you indicate that you are okay with the price-content ratio of the main game.
So actually you support/create this selling-strategys. So the obvious right thing to do is not to buy things which have a insufficient price-content-ratio. People often call this "boykott" but in reality its just the thing you would do with any other thing on other markets. For example, i think the ipad looks funny, still i hate apples philosophy, i think the ipad is seriously overpriced and too restricted. So my obvious conclusion is not to buy the ipad. So why is this not your logical conclusion when it comes to games?
Last edited by DonNatcho; 09-11-2010 at 07:07 PM.
I don't like playing separate DLCs, I don't care for that stuff. Would gladly pay more for a complete experience in the core game. Haven't bought Mafia 2 yet because of the ripoff that's going on here.
I would have preferred to pay another $10 to have "Vito" and the dlc content included not the egghead "jimmy" + timers removed and less arcade feeling.
As for the cost for the whole game on an Entertainment level ?? hell its less than an afternoon in a pub in the UK and no free hangover with it .....
Last edited by Elle; 09-11-2010 at 09:19 PM.
Agree 100%I would have preferred to pay another $10 to have "Vito" and the dlc content included not the egghead "jimmy" + timers removed and less arcade feeling.
As for the cost for the whole game on an Entertainment level ?? hell its less than an afternoon in a pub in the UK and no free hangover with it .....
i would buy a full pack rather than DLC........
DLC is a very annoying promotion to me, It make me feel that stories or gameplay
are not contant.
So,i prefer to buy full game.
Frankly said, i think $100 is too expensive.........
Boycotts rarely work because it takes such a large scale to be effective. As for DRM give me a break man DRM is a joke even the best DRM gets cracked on launch day. Only thing DRM does it make it harder for people that bought the game to use the game because they have to jump though so many hoops for the DRM to be happy. Seriously man it has reached the point on some games that it's much harder to install the game legally than it is just to pirate the game. Tell me is that the point of DRM? I would never advocate pirating a whole game devs work very hard at making games and they deserve to get payed. Plus I love games and I want to see more games get made so the best way for that to happen is for it to be profitable so people will want to get into the biz out of sheer greed and that wont happen if people pirate the games. I just feel DRM does far more harm to people who legally purchased the game than it does the Blackbeard's of the world so something needs to change when it comes to how DRM is done.
DLCs are a different matter cuz they are nothing but money grabs yeah they boost the profit but they end up ruining the game. I just feel the gaming experience should be the number 1 priority on any game devs mind and profit 2nd. If they see alot of game sales but low numbers for DLCs they might think twice about DLCs because it cost money for them to have the bandwidth and servers for the DLCs. They might just go back to releasing complete games and forget about DLCs altogether if they see DLCs are costing them more than they are bringing in.
Last edited by prez420; 09-13-2010 at 09:31 AM.
I really get annyoed by this read my post, i didnt talk about boykotts. In fact i am annoyed by boykotts, deciding to not buy something because its obviously not worth the money is not boykotting something, its simply not acting like an addict ...
This I agree 100% - E.g Mafia 2 crack was out on the same day it was released in US - when we in Europe still have to wait 3 days to get it. And now you can't buy Jimmy's Vendetta from many countries .... For me it seems that 2K do their best to promote people using pirate copies... And using Steam is annoying anyway.
Might be the best shot against piracy is forgetting regional restrictions and delayed release dates - I believe many use pirate copies onlly because they are available sooner than legal ones ...
Last edited by prinitor; 09-14-2010 at 12:34 AM.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote