my sad review :(
I loved Mafia 1 so many years ago, and I was soo excited to finally play another mafia game, Alas, I was let down on so many levels compared to the original, that, or perhaps in my younger years I was more naive to the faults at hand.
Was it me, or did quite a few chapters seem like a side mission more then a major part of the story line?
I dont want to make spoilers, but jeeze, I know you can defend each chapter and how it overshadowed the mafia life, but I dont want a generic overview, I want a story, like a movie. That is what drives good games now a days.
one chapter is about chasing goons, another is about a guy angry about one death, but not ANY other ever, not even a sign of remorse.
and the ending, not necessarily what it represented, but the length, literally about 30 seconds?
I went back and watched the Mafia 1 finale, and it was a good 7 minutes long. It had a great narrative about life in the mob and choices you make. This game gave you diddly squat.
That is all coming from your average older generation gamer.
-I still enjoyed the game, just let down compared to the original. Quite a bit too.
The sad fact is your right the story line was ok but did seem jump all over the place there was a lot of story characters but only 10% had any depth to them . In my mind they were more concerned about how pretty snow looked in a pointless city or how detailed the lip movement and facial appearance was a a character u see once or twice at most. If that same amount of effort hab been put into developing entertaining and plentifull story mission I believe the majority of reviews would have been positive. Thank goodness there is still developers like bioware and rockstar that are more concern about the gamers sastisfaction over snow falling off the top of a car
I agree, the game feels a bit cut off sometimes...it could have been so god damn good if it was done right.
but rockstar games gta suck compared to mafia, because its freeroaming.
Originally Posted by watk
gta is made for freeroaming, mafia's not.
not bout free roamin
I could care less bout free roaming I'm refering to missions Red dead redemption had 57 story missions gta4 over 40 I don't care bout driving round a city. As well in my opinon u develope much more of care bout the supporting chareacters in both of those games which relates to how u feel with. the out come of what heppens to them in the story line I personally don't run off doing the cop missionetc in a gta game I just like dewpth to the story mafia 2 in my humble opinion wasn't a bad story it was just very shallow
three words for 2k = The Game Sucks
I "uterly" and totaly agree with you! Mafia is such a masterpiece,when i saw the first trailer of Mafia 2,i nearly cry,too much emotions!
Originally Posted by TraviZ28
Mafia 2 is a good game,but i felt something is missing from the begining to the end of the Game. The game should have been much much longer (30hrs at least)! 8 years of waiting for 10 hrs of gameplay on difficult level and while taking my time!? Graphicaly the game is sometimes very good and sometimes bad (Consoles destroyed this game)... Story is good,but there's a lot of things missing!
There should be more side mission,more longer cinematic whit a lot more explanation,détails. When Vito is in jail/at war, we should have seen what Joe did during that time! When Mama die,we should see a funeral,how she dies,yes she was sick,but did she dies in the arms of her daughter or somethings? Vito going to the cimetery after prison's time to see his Mum with his sister. The same can be said for Tommas Angelo!!
This guy is a legend! The cinematic of Joe killing him is too short! We should see the car running away and listening to Vito,he could have said: I made some research on that guy,he was a member of the salieri family... (FLASHBACK OF WHAT HAPPEN IN THE FIRST MAFIA) and then we see the funeral Of Tommy,with his wife sarah and his childrens in front of his grave crying Mafia 2 does not honor the first one. the Story goes too fast,when Vito really enter the Mafia family,they should have been at least 10 chapter of mission for the Mafia. The End could be good,but somethings'missing!! Physx is a bad idea! It is sad indeed that Mafia 2 is part of that long list of games sold in kit form (DLC,game's too short), with the impression that the game has been done fast to sold it and make money!
I don't know when they start to make it but hey,all that wait for that?
I waited for a Goodfellas feeling or somethings,music where good thougt,atmosphere was not bad.
It reminds me of MGS4,why? Because MGS4 had a lot of cinematic that explain the previous games in details,with less gameplay. Mafia 2 has good gameplay,but not much details in cinematic,not enought winks for the First Mafia.The game don't seems to be really complete to me.What is in the cinematic is well done,there just things missing in them.
The game is good but a lot of things could have been done better, Mafia is art,Mafia 2 is a good videogame with some little touch of art.
Last edited by M1eX; 08-26-2010 at 03:10 AM.
I know this is a little bit off topic but does the ps3 version got blood and grass in it? otherwise im not going to buy it because i was really dissapointed about the graphics of the demo. Im sorry if my grammar isnt perfect lol. Im dutch.
Last edited by ACEOFSPADES; 08-26-2010 at 12:59 AM.
I feel that 2k stuck to close with what made mafia 1 good in 2002 and forgot that it's 2010.
No it doesn't
Originally Posted by ACEOFSPADES
My opinion here is that those people are pissed because Mafia 2 looks and feels wonderful, and its understandable you want more... I would say that they indeed plan on building more content for this game.. .but only time will tell.. and it sounds alot of people gave up on them because you all marothoned the 10+ game in one day..
Its like trying to complete Halo in 3 days.. or less.. LOL I think you have to first appreciate the time and painstaking detail they put into the game.. and the respect of how it made you feel...
It made you feel pissed, upset.. because you want more.. and to me.. they did there job because you want more...
They will probably have more content.. so dont whine too much.. if you had a good time playing it.. they accomplished their mission, Im sure with the intent to bring you even more as soon as they can.
The view of the mafia life was a main part of the story. The focus of the story was on vito's experience in the life of a mafioso. That wouldn't have been shown as well if you didn't get a look at the variety of aspects that are part of the life. Yes the main direct plot is about Vito but if you don't have the look into the life you lose the feel of being Vito and being in the mafia. Every mission represented an experience that effected Vito.
Originally Posted by TraviZ28
chapter 1- being in the war- demonstrates how vito learned to drive, shoot, and his first look at the power of the mafia
chapter 2- meeting Vito's friends and family which shows some of his major influence and providing the what basically motivates him towards a life of crime.
chapter 3- his first big job (which comes back later to bite him in the butt) which demonstrates the fact that things don't always go as planned and can sometimes go south. Also gives a glimpse into mafia life in the fact that they didn't just get in random shoot outs and often tried to avoid shooting if possible.
chapter 4- more examples of how things can go wrong, also introduces the idea of modern gangs getting in the way. Demonstrates the aspect of mafia life of making sure to get what is due to you.
chapter 5- Vito having to do his first hit. The aspect of mafia life where you have to kill someone just because the person in charge wants them dead. Demonstrates the coldness of the mafia. Also gives the first real taste of the danger of mafia life with henry's injury.
chapter 6- things coming back to bite you in the butt. Shows what it is like to be in prison. Comparison of normal prisoner (Vito) to Mafia prisoner (Leo) giving motivation for Vito to want power (also helps introduce the other families and some of the rules of the mafia and the conflicts between mafia families with different ideals.
chapter 7- the feeling of freedom. Entering a time of prosperity. Necessary as a transition from being a small time crook/prisoner to a time of Vito's life where things are going well. Also hints at some of the darker sides of the mafia life that Vito will soon start to see.
chapter 8- back to the good life. easy job to help get back on his feet after being in prison. Things go wrong but is easily overcome. Demonstrates the major aspect of mafia life of not letting others do anything against you. Feel of the power of being a real gangster and easily taking on everyone else.
chapter 9- The big transition where Vito joins the family.
chapter 10- shows an aspect of what happens when a fight between families actually does happen. Hints at the fact that even the powerful can fall. Shows a new side to Joe and once again the more risky side of the mafia with Marty's death.
chapter 11- shows the loyalty Vito has towards his friends and somewhat Vito's desire for a father figure that he didn't really get from his father. Scolding afterwards from Leo gives a hint at the fact that Vito isn't doing what he should as a Mafioso (forshadowing).
chapter 12- The big turn for the worse. Demonstrates where Vito's lust for money and power starts to go overboard and he and Joe make some really bad decisions.
chapter 13- Henry's death which shows what happens to those who turn rat (another big aspect of mafia life) Joe and Vito kill the tongs in vengeance showing how they take things very personally going against a big idea of being in the mafia (godfather- It's just business)
chapter 14- desperation. everything is going to hell they are in serious debt. Vito gets character development on the subject of being like his father and once again takes things very personally.
chapter 15- the fact that no matter how powerful you are someone will come after you. The conclusion of the whole mess that Vito and co. started. The fact that even your best friend could turn out to be your enemy. The strength of the friends loyalty to one another. Joe's death then signifies something that has to happen. As he is Vito is a loose end because of his loyalty to Joe over the family (as was said during initiation "this family must mean more to you than your own family") also shows that things don't always turn out well.
All of these things add up to create the mafia experience that makes this game great. If you took out all the missions that demonstrate the life of a mafioso it would lose most of the feel that this game does so well.
As for the guy angry about one death but not any other that was about his friend. Yes Joe had seen people die but not anyone who was close to him. It affected him so much because Marty was his friend and it was mostly Joe's fault that he died. You know what that is called. Character development. It shows a different side of Joe than what we had seen
Mafia 1's ending was longer because it wrapped up the arrest of the family, the death of tommy, and a summary about the life.
Mafia 2 didn't need this huge long ending because most of the wrapping up of events happened in the gameplay or earlier cutscenes and the summary about the life wasn't necessary because it was shown throughout the game.
Originally Posted by TraviZ28
You're right man. I finished Mafia 2 in 8 hours on hardest difficulty without rushing. Its way to short, and those movie inserts that show how you progress trough life, and how much fun Vito and Joe are having are just putting the salt on the wounds. So much unused potential.
I have started playing Mafia 1 today, after 4 years. And damn, its still got something special. Its just a timeless classic game that will never be beaten from its throne, no matter how good the new games look.
Originally Posted by Cyper
Yes , but sorry....GTA4 is still a much better game than Mafia 2. MUCH MUCH better game in any aspect except for graphics maybe, because its not that demanding and still looks damn good.
i have to agree with you on that point but i never played gta4 tho
Originally Posted by derbigpr50
the ending is what really frustrated me... no closure, no sense of accomplisment, no nothing. It was just like any other mundane cut scene.
It also screamed "tune in next time... and bring your wallet!"
With so many big hunks of gameplay witheld to be sold as DLC later, I can't believe this is a full priced game. I won't make the same mistake in the future.
They soiled the mafia name just made it go down the drain
Originally Posted by Nurb
When the final cut scene is playing, I feel like the game is going to begin, and then omg, it turns out it is the end of the game......maybe this is something about the future DLC which you will have to pay for it.
But I am so sorry 2K, I am gonna sell this game at $5 on ebay if there will be no free DLC or even SDK for this game.
There is no evidence that gameplay was withheld to be sold as dlc. It could just be a cliffhanger for a sequel. Until the company itself announces story content as dlc, just assuming that they did this is rude.
Originally Posted by Nurb
mafia 3. 8 years later lol. why is everyone crying (literally) for this game. omg the ending made me cry.
i think/ and i hope that there will be a mafia 3 .... i like the game , (even if is a little short ... 13 hours of gameplay) , but the ending is a big '' ? '' for me and i think the end have made a place to continue the story .... Leo , when u helped him to run from the city , he said that will go in ''Lost Heaven'' ..... there could be a new mafia 3 , in lost heaven or somethin ....in 2 years maybe ..,... i hope so !
The first Mafia felt like a nice progression.
Mafia 2 felt episodic and random, and a little disconnected. Not as effective.
-I did like the seasonal change and the jump ahead in era (from 1940s to 1950s).