Upgraded my graphics from ati 4850 to nvidia GTX460 "fps dropped"

[sunspot78]

As topic, I upgrade to an GTX460 and my dps went down 10fps or so while driving in the demo and it drops to 6-8fps in the brewery when I go up the stairs.

The benchmark is terrible, stuttering and laggin and so forth with 30fps or so max.

this is wit physX off and same settings as I had on my ati 4850 card.


Anyone got a clue?

running latest drivers, cleaned out all the ATI drivers from my system, other games seem to be running with some improvement, but mafia 2 is terrible.

other games also seem to me that they didn't improve in fps that much, however I can boost quality and I guess the games now run in DX11 so never mind lol

but if anyone got a suggestion for mafia2 10+ fps drop compared to the 4850 card then pls do tell.

[vaselinemonster]

I have the same type of issue. I just upgraded a 4850 to a gtx465, and while the fps haven't dropped over all, they haven't increased either and every few minutes the framerate drops to about 10 and below no matter whats happening on screen. This never happened on my 4850 and I have the same settings.

[Kickflipkid687]

I think they are still working on better drivers for the new cards. New Nvidia drivers should be out soon, and will prob. help that.

[krappadizzle]

I'm hoping for better drivers as well. I'm getting a GTX 460 and using my old GTX 260 as Dedicated Physx HOPINg to see a good improvement

[RunningBare]

Do you have Apex/PhysX turned on?, even my GTX470 struggles with that turned on, I'm now using an overclocked GTX260 along side the 470 for Apex/Physx.

[Ionutz83]

I have the same type of issue. I just upgraded a 4850 to a gtx465, and while the fps haven't dropped over all, they haven't increased either and every few minutes the framerate drops to about 10 and below no matter whats happening on screen. This never happened on my 4850 and I have the same settings.

I'm guessing that the performance didn't increased because of the CPU.
What type of CPU do you have?
The CPU can hold back the GPU, so don't be very surprised that the FPS didn't went up just by changing the graphic card.
Most peoples make this mistake, they buy a powerful graphic card and they use it with an average CPU, and then they are surprised that the performance didn't increased.
Buy a stronger CPU and you will see the results.

[sunspot78]

I'm guessing that the performance didn't increased because of the CPU.
What type of CPU do you have?
The CPU can hold back the GPU, so don't be very surprised that the FPS didn't went up just by changing the graphic card.
Most peoples make this mistake, they buy a powerful graphic card and they use it with an average CPU, and then they are surprised that the performance didn't increased.
Buy a stronger CPU and you will see the results.

Well I did allready upgrade from a dual core athlon x2 245 @2.9ghz to a quad core for this game, I noticed a 10fps increase with fraps by just driving around which made the game "fluid" in low settings and ambient occlusion off. in 1920x1080.

So I figured if I get a gtx460 I can keep the shadows at high and ambient occlusion on and maintain that framerate that I had with LOW with the 4850.

PHYSX = OFF always I never ever turned it on, not on either of the cards.

So now I got a quadcore that is running 3.4ghz, and I noticed big improvements in all my games, even mafia2 demo.

But when I chugged in the Geforce GTX460 card that is supposed to be alot faster I get stutterings, and hickups etc.

If I run the benchmark it have like 18-30fps and if I run the benchmark afterwards its up there with 45+ fps with less stutterings and sneezes.

So it runs better if I reload it, but what am I supposed to do with the full game, run a mission twice?

anyone got a solution?


feels silly I spent almost 400euro to upgrade with 2gb ram more, a quadcore cpu and an GTX460 card. And the game run worse then ever haha. Money well spent.

All of my upgrades was just to make the stupid game run better. Worse part is we get no response from devs.

[DarkGod]

These type of games are always a bit demanding, I've noticed on pc games 3rd person games are always alot more demanding then first person shooters. I don't know why that is, maybe 3rd person games have more things going on the screen. I know that my computer loves some modified versions of unreal 3 engine. Like my computer kills that game singularity. I get like 100-120 fps in that game.

And the graphics are pretty good in that game.


In the demo of this game I got 60fps-30fps with settings set on high, shadows on low, and physx on medium... And Af set 1x.

Amd Phenom II x4 3.4ghz/had it at 3.8ghz didn't notice too much more fps gains and my computer overheated and gave me the blue death screen.

Gtx 470 1280mb

[sunspot78]

everyuthing on high, physX off, no aa. 16 aniostrophic@ 1920x1080

51.7average on bench

and I drive around with 55-60fps.
I retried mission 3-4 times and suddenly it droppped to 30fps.

GPU ran at 51c
CPU ran at 36c

It only happens in that stupid demo, it is broken no doubt. Hope it isnt like this in the full version.


Oh oh and to get my fps up I used the 259.32 nvidia drivers they helped a ton with performance before it ****ed up to 30fps.

[vaselinemonster]

I'm guessing that the performance didn't increased because of the CPU.
What type of CPU do you have?
The CPU can hold back the GPU, so don't be very surprised that the FPS didn't went up just by changing the graphic card.
Most peoples make this mistake, they buy a powerful graphic card and they use it with an average CPU, and then they are surprised that the performance didn't increased.
Buy a stronger CPU and you will see the results.

I have a 2.8ghz quadcore overclocked to 3.2ghz, so I'm pretty sure my CPU is good, and i have 3 gigs of ram, so I don't think thats holding me back either. I bought the gtx 465 just for this game, and like the OP it feels like waste of 250 bucks.

[sunspot78]

Yeah it does feel like a waste now, but im hoping for patches or better drivers.

All my other games run with increase in the fps with even greater quality settings like AA I never used AA before without seeing huge dips in fps.

even crysis runs better with a higher minimum fps.

But yeah right now I feel kinda bad, cause I wanted fluid gameplay in Mafia 2. I guess I can just chug in my 4850 card again and rock...

or maybe run 4850 card as main card and use the gtx460 in sli for physX only.

well atleast there is options..

[DiabloMuerto]

Hmm, I'm thinking for you guys with the newer cards, it might just be the drivers need to improve.

I'm running this game on a rig I built 3 years ago...

2.4ghz core 2 quad, q6600
8gb DDR2
8800gt X2 in SLi

Nothing is over clocked or anything, My game settings are custom but I'd say it's a medium-high setting.

1920X1080 res, Medium Shadows, medium PhysX, High Geometry, AA 1X.

Game still looks great, runs decent, frame rate dips now and then but nothing that makes the game unplayable or just plain old annoying. With the newer cards you guys are mentioning, unless you just have other hardware that's bottle-necking your performance, seems like you should be able to run this pretty easily.

Can't wait to July myself, will be building my new PC, should swallow this game whole on max settings.

[sunspot78]

Yeah Im gona get a better computer aswell. maybe use the gtx460 as second card for SLI only, but the rest I will sell.

But I want something badass or I wont bother like a 8 core cpu or something like that.

2 days to release gogogo.

[DXM06]

I'm guessing that the performance didn't increased because of the CPU.
What type of CPU do you have?
The CPU can hold back the GPU, so don't be very surprised that the FPS didn't went up just by changing the graphic card.
Most peoples make this mistake, they buy a powerful graphic card and they use it with an average CPU, and then they are surprised that the performance didn't increased.
Buy a stronger CPU and you will see the results.

Most games are fully using gpu resources and make cpu less stressful. 460gtx is a new card and need a better driver. If you see nothing improved from a older card it's not because of your cpu.

[CaptainTripps]

Most games are fully using gpu resources and make cpu less stressful. 460gtx is a new card and need a better driver. If you see nothing improved from a older card it's not because of your cpu.

You can't say that, its entirely possible he his cpu can't support a higher frame rate. If he was CPU bound (or close to it) with a 4850 that would explain why an upgrade did more or less nothing.

[DXM06]

You can't say that, its entirely possible he his cpu can't support a higher frame rate. If he was CPU bound (or close to it) with a 4850 that would explain why an upgrade did more or less nothing.

I bet he would get higher fps in DX11 games. just because of a good optimization for a DX11 card. If your argument is right then his cpu should hold him back in DX11 games because it's more complicated and stressful for CPU's but Mafia 2 as a DX9 game runs slower than dx11 game. This is simply a optimization or driver problem.

But the ironic side of this issue is that the main sponsor is nvidia.

[shard13]

Just a quick question. When you switched from ATI to the Nvidia 460 GTX, did you do a full driver cleaning? In the past I have often seen remnants from old drivers mucking up any sort of things. Try running something like Driver Sweeper and such to make sure you got rid of all ATI video driver files.

[prez420]

Sorry m8 that the price u pay for going to nvidia. In wasn't a upgrade it was a downgrade. Maybe if you had something like radeon 9250 and went to the gtx 460 nvidia card it could considered a upgrade. I hope u learned your lesson never buy nvidia if you want the best performance per dollar.