Pedestrian feedback (constructive)

[Ralphie]

The pedestrians lack random b..behaviours, their reactions are 100% predictable.

When you push someone that ped will always start a f..fight with you, he could simply warn you, ignore you, run away, draw a knife on you or fight back.

When you pull someone out of a car that ped will always run away screaming, unless he is a b..bomber.. but its always the same and it doesnt make sense, some should fight back to save their cars.

Another example:
The peds crash cars alot, sometimes they get out of the car and start arguing, it would be kind of cool if they could end up in a f..fight.

I dont know if the pedestrian behaviours are controled by scripts but it shouldnt be too hard to randomise their b..behaviours more and it would make Empire Bay m..much more alive and interesting .

The original Mafia was very linear and simple in free play b..but i remember that when you pulled someone out of a car you could end up being surprised by a ped with a b..baseball bat, or worse... it was random, more of that please!

This is a c..constructive feedback post, not a complaint post .

[R.J]

The pedestrians lack random b..behaviours, their reactions are 100% predictable.

When you push someone that ped will always start a f..fight with you, he could simply warn you, ignore you, run away, draw a knife on you or fight back.

When you pull someone out of a car that ped will always run away screaming, unless he is a b..bomber.. but its always the same and it doesnt make sense, some should fight back to save their cars.

Another example:
The peds crash cars alot, sometimes they get out of the car and start arguing, it would be kind of cool if they could end up in a f..fight.

I dont know if the pedestrian behaviours are controled by scripts but it shouldnt be too hard to randomise their b..behaviours more and it would make Empire Bay m..much more alive and interesting .

The original Mafia was very linear and simple in free play b..but i remember that when you pulled someone out of a car you could end up being surprised by a ped with a b..baseball bat, or worse... it was random, more of that please!

This is a c..constructive feedback post, not a complaint post .

What platform did you play on ?

[Livejoker]

I KNOW the stuttering is from Mafia I in some way but I can't figure out where it is in the game as I never finished it...

*EDIT* Almost forgot, it doesn't matter what console you're playing on. The peds actions do act as scripted and not randomized. I hope the game will make them random. GTA IV had the best peds but dayyum did they throw a lot of garbage from the windows of their cars!

[Ralphie]

What platform did you play on ?

PC, does it matter? .

I never finished it...

Thats too bad, you missed out

[R.J]

PC, does it matter? .



Thats too bad, you missed out

Not realy i just wanted to see

[Livejoker]

PC, does it matter? .



Thats too bad, you missed out

I KNOW! I feel so bad for doing so. But there's no connection with the 1st and 2nd Mafia so I don't feel THAT bad. I was about 10 when I played Mafia 1 so I never focused on the missions. When my older brother let me play, I remember I used to drive the Crazy Horse and cause mayhem (badly, too). But hey, I was a kid.

I hope I can redeem myself with Mafia II, though.

[NOS412]

I KNOW the stuttering is from Mafia I in some way but I can't figure out where it is in the game as I never finished it...

*EDIT* Almost forgot, it doesn't matter what console you're playing on. The peds actions do act as scripted and not randomized. I hope the game will make them random. GTA IV had the best peds but dayyum did they throw a lot of garbage from the windows of their cars!

[(Hint) look at his name]
Seriously enough with the stuttering.
Isnt the A.I. toned down for the demo?

[Ralphie]

Isnt the A.I. toned down for the demo?

I dont think so, atleast that wouldnt m..make sense.
Just pushed a bomber, he started a fight with me, he could:

a) Challenge me to do it again.
b) Draw his piece and threaten me.
c) Fight back.

It would also be kind of funny if the peds gathered around a fist fight, the kind of stuff that m..makes the game world feel alive.

[Mintz95]

How could you not focus on the missions in Mafia? I was 7 when I played it and I focused on them because they were the best part of the game

[cookiekiller6]

Can he please stop with the stuttering, it's really annoying.
And yes, the AI for everything was toned down for the demo, I don't know why, but it was. If it wasn't, that means the cops in this game are ALL mentally retarded, which I doubt.

[Mintz95]

Yeah, please... it was funny the first time you were pretending to be a fictional video game character, but its just getting old and annoying.

[Laphin]

You guys complain about Ralphie's stuttering almost as much as you complain about the game.. lol. He's not doing it as much in his posts as he used to.. it's not that hard to read over. You guys gotta get over it.. seriously.

[Blurredman]

Yeah, most of the time he only stutters once in his posts. So what's to complain about?

I like him

[putinman]

What's with the stuttering, am I missing something?

[Mornaselos]

Can he please stop with the stuttering, it's really annoying.
And yes, the AI for everything was toned down for the demo, I don't know why, but it was. If it wasn't, that means the cops in this game are ALL mentally retarded, which I doubt.

s..s..sowhat?

If thats how he wants to type it's his c..choice(not mocking you ralphie) just making a point

ontopic: Elizabeth said not all people are going to do the same thing. If vito punches an old man he's obviously going to run away and maybe flag down a cop for help, but if vito flucks with a gangster then he's gonna get gangbanged.

[Ganja]

I dont think so, atleast that wouldnt m..make sense.
Just pushed a bomber, he started a fight with me, he could:

a) Challenge me to do it again.
b) Draw his piece and threaten me.
c) Fight back.

It would also be kind of funny if the peds gathered around a fist fight, the kind of stuff that m..makes the game world feel alive.

A) Eat some cashews
B) Take a dump on Abe Lincolns memorial picture
C) Fight at the Alamo squared

[rick2201]

i dont think they will change anything with the pedestrians.

i think this video of ralphie in mafia is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=inEJ...eature=related

its good to have characters from the first game in the forums even tho it isnt really them it just makes certain people laugh

[cocoawaye]

Can he please stop with the stuttering, it's really annoying.
And yes, the AI for everything was toned down for the demo, I don't know why, but it was. If it wasn't, that means the cops in this game are ALL mentally retarded, which I doubt.

Why would 2K tone down AI in a demo? In order to persuade people not to buy their product?

So I do think the AI in Mafia 2 is not good enough.

[Verteru]

OMG. There is only 6 days to full version. Stop complain about some demo issues. The game is burned to DVDs for sure, so wait for full v. and than give 2k some feedback to release some patch.

[royalliiii]

The first post. This is what 2K LIZ should look for, to take it to the devs.

[Nail2]

Man, i play on PC but people dont fight me every time i push em... If i push girl she never fights me... if i push a man he starts fight me after 3rd time... at 1st he just say GET OF MY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,... so! You have some sick demo or what!

[Vladdus]

Man, i play on PC but people dont fight me every time i push em... If i push girl she never fights me... if i push a man he starts fight me after 3rd time... at 1st he just say GET OF MY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,... so! You have some sick demo or what!

Isn't that because you bump into them? Just press LMB and it should work.

[Vito28]

i dont think they will change anything with the pedestrians.

i think this video of ralphie in mafia is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=inEJ...eature=related

its good to have characters from the first game in the forums even tho it isnt really them it just makes certain people laugh

lol here is a even a better one of raphie teaching tommy to steal a blown up car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FbyD...eature=related

[Ralphie]

Man, i play on PC but people dont fight me every time i push em... If i push girl she never fights me... if i push a man he starts fight me after 3rd time... at 1st he just say GET OF MY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,... so! You have some sick demo or what!

If you push a walking g..guy he will fight you.
If you push a walking lady she will run away screaming.
If you p..pull any ped out of a car they will run away screaming (unless he is a bomber).

It goes like that every single time.

It should be random... why are all the walking peds b..brave and the driving ones cowards? .

It would be better if 2k could change this (and simple), but we can always hunt for the scripts in the PC version, although we shouldnt have to.. and the console p..players will miss out.

Its constructive criticism!

[LittleRichard]

In my experience if you steal a car from a ped, and if you don't drive away the ped can try to pull you out and start a fight.

[Ralphie]

In my experience if you steal a car from a ped, and if you don't drive away the ped can try to pull you out and start a fight.

In my experience the only peds that d..do that are the bombers, and the ones fixing broken cars so its predictable.

[AgZarp]

What's with the stuttering, am I missing something?

It's from the original mafia game, Ralphie was the stuttering mechanic, go play it, great game...