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    Talking Celtic (Irish, Welsh, Scottish) Nations?

    Hi, I was wondering if there was going to be the functionality to create new Civilisations such as old 'celtic nations' (Ireland/Scotland/Wales)?

    As an Irishman, I appreciate we haven't had much influence in the international domain apart from what we could call a cultural one, through religion/music/alcohol!

    It would be a 'nice to have' if 2K could implement this into the game.

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    The "Celts" as a Civilization have been featured previously in the series. Expect them to be in an expansion pack along with the likes of the Mongols, Vikings & Carthaginians.

    We'll never see the functionality to create our own Civs because that would mean expansion packs lose their biggest selling points.

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    As Pyrofox said already, they have been included in past expansion packs so expect them to come in an expansion pack sometime in the near future.

    I don't think you can create civs in Civ V. And (as Pyrofox said) that would result in expansion packs losing their main selling point - new civs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cully411 View Post
    Hi, I was wondering if there was going to be the functionality to create new Civilisations such as old 'celtic nations' (Ireland/Scotland/Wales)?

    As an Irishman, I appreciate we haven't had much influence in the international domain apart from what we could call a cultural one, through religion/music/alcohol!

    It would be a 'nice to have' if 2K could implement this into the game.
    There will be a Celtic Civ in a later expasnsion 100%, there has been one in every Civ since Civ 1

    Special Ability, Drink yourself to death (+5 happiness in all cities)
    Special Unit, IRA Guerrilla


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    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Storm View Post
    There will be a Celtic Civ in a later expasnsion 100%, there has been one in every Civ since Civ 1

    Special Ability, Drink yourself to death (+5 happiness in all cities)
    Special Unit, IRA Guerrilla

    HAhah - Hilarious!

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    They definetely need to make an Irish civ.

    Not a Celtic one. An Irish one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Storm View Post
    There will be a Celtic Civ in a later expasnsion 100%
    There will be a huge number of various Civs (and even countries).

    Civ5 entered the era of DLC.
    My guess is, that all single civs, which will be included in the one or two expansions, will be purchasable via DLC.
    Also there will be more civs available than included in the expansion(s).

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    There should be three expansions (12, 12, 10) to bring the total amount of civs to 52. It's a good number.

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    I quite like the Celts actually. They have had many great leaders. They have plenty of potential for UUs too. For examples, just look at Rome Total War's (for those that have played it) Gallic and Brittania factions.

    I feel like there are more important additions that need to be made (e.g. Mongol, Incans, Spain, Vikings, Israel, Ethiopia), but I wouldn't honestly mind the Celts at all. For a change of pace, Vercingetorix could be a good leader. Or if they want to make them really epic, they could be led by King Arthur. That'd make them pretty popular I think.

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    Hm... King Arthur, leader of the Celts. I quite like that

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    Dublin might get the loyalty to become a city-state. Maybe along with Amsterdam, Stockholm, and Lisbon.

    And I would love to see the IRA in Civ5. Their showcase on The Deadliest Warrior impressed me.

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    The Celts are my favorite to play in the past civ games. It would be cool once you hit 400 AD you could rename your civ as Irish, Scottish, or Welsh. Have the names of your cities convert to your chosen country and have a leader change as well.

    Irish leader Brian Boru

    Scottish leader King Malcom II or Alexander III.

    welsh leader Llywelyn or Cadwallon.

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    I liked the Celts as they were in Civ II and III, with cities such as Tintagel, Camaalot, Caerphilly, Caernarfon, Carlion, Carduel, Dinas Powys, Dinas Emrys, Abergavenny, Kells...

    In Civ IV they were like Toulouse, Vienna, etc.., continental cities that maybe archeology says celtic, but whose cultural coherence can't really be found (by me) today or in recent past. I know the peak of celtic civilization is quite ancient and maybe more continental, but i prefered the "Arthur's kingdom" it used to be. We could have a list of names when founding a city. I don't know.

    What I know is there would be a great playlist to make.


    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Storm View Post
    Special Ability, Drink yourself to death (+5 happiness in all cities)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floating Pants View Post
    Dublin might get the loyalty to become a city-state. Maybe along with Amsterdam, Stockholm, and Lisbon.

    And I would love to see the IRA in Civ5. Their showcase on The Deadliest Warrior impressed me.
    Yeah i love Deadliest warrior, they didnt screen either of the 2 IRA episodes in the UK as they were banned i believe due to fact that both IRA and Taleban are enemies of the British

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrofox View Post
    The "Celts" as a Civilization have been featured previously in the series. Expect them to be in an expansion pack along with the likes of the Mongols, Vikings & Carthaginians.

    We'll never see the functionality to create our own Civs because that would mean expansion packs lose their biggest selling points.
    And that's what it is all about. $$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Isles View Post
    The Celts are my favorite to play in the past civ games. It would be cool once you hit 400 AD you could rename your civ as Irish, Scottish, or Welsh. Have the names of your cities convert to your chosen country and have a leader change as well.

    Irish leader Brian Boru

    Scottish leader King Malcom II or Alexander III.

    welsh leader Llywelyn or Cadwallon.
    I agree, or i just leave the Celt civ on the default and play with that. It has ammazed me on the thread below about Britian that there were loads of what seemed to be mostly Welsh arguing about why in the game the English Civ should be named Great Britian so they were included in the game, when i knew that they are more than covered by the Celtic Civ, in fact in Civ 2 the capital of the Celt civ was defaulted as Cardiff lol

    http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76272

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floating Pants View Post
    And I would love to see the IRA in Civ5.
    Really? Is that appropriate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig123 View Post
    Really? Is that appropriate?
    Possibly the most tasteless thing ive ever read on this forum, ever, and thats some stiff competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0zymandibles View Post
    Possibly the most tasteless thing ive ever read on this forum, ever, and thats some stiff competition.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0zymandibles View Post
    Possibly the most tasteless thing ive ever read on this forum, ever, and thats some stiff competition.
    O give over will ya

    In Civ 2 they had a unit called "Islamic Fundamentalist" which is esstentially the Taliban and Al-Qaeda

    They also had Guerrilla units......

    and before you go off on one, remember one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter!

    Just to note that in most of the worlds eyes the IRA was a resistance force fighting an (alleged) occupation (similar to the Free French), in fact the USA only made funding the IRA illegal around 2004, long after the peace treaty was signed

    I see no reason why an IRA Guerrilla could not be the unique unit of a Celtic civ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Storm View Post
    O give over will ya

    In Civ 2 they had a unit called "Islamic Fundamentalist" which is esstentially the Taliban and Al-Qaeda

    They also had Guerrilla units......

    and before you go off on one, remember one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter!
    Civ2 came out before the 9/11 attacks and before anyone had even heard of Al-Qaeda. I bet they'd be reluctant to have such a unit now. Would it be fine having a Middle-Eastern civ with special unit 'Al-Qaeda terrorist'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Storm View Post
    Just to note that in most of the worlds eyes the IRA was a resistance force fighting an (alleged) occupation (similar to the Free French), in fact the USA only made funding the IRA illegal around 2004, long after the peace treaty was signed

    I see no reason why an IRA Guerrilla could not be the unique unit of a Celtic civ
    When you say IRA guerilla, you most likely are refering to the original IRA (1919-22) and the (justified) fight for Ireland's independence. However, most people (in the UK anyway), would associate it with the more recent incarnations and the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland (which led to 3,526 deaths, of which 1,855 were civilians (source)).

    The fact that the USA failed to take action with regards to IRA funding (until after Sept 2001) is lamentable. However, it doesn't justify terrorist attrocities.

    Is the IRA really the only thing that springs to mind when you thing of a Celtic civ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig123 View Post
    Civ2 came out before the 9/11 attacks and before anyone had even heard of Al-Qaeda. I bet they'd be reluctant to have such a unit now. Would it be fine having a Middle-Eastern civ with special unit 'Al-Qaeda terrorist'?



    When you say IRA guerilla, you most likely are refering to the original IRA (1919-22) and the (justified) fight for Ireland's independence. However, most people (in the UK anyway), would associate it with the more recent incarnations and the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland (which led to 3,526 deaths, of which 1,855 were civilians (source)).

    The fact that the USA failed to take action with regards to IRA funding (until after Sept 2001) is lamentable. However, it doesn't justify terrorist attrocities.

    Is the IRA really the only thing that springs to mind when you thing of a Celtic civ?
    Well, no, the Gallic Swordsmen is much more worthy of that place, but we were only having a bit of fun with the idea....no need to get so heavy about it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Storm View Post
    Well, no, the Gallic Swordsmen is much more worthy of that place, but we were only having a bit of fun with the idea....no need to get so heavy about it all
    Well I just wanted to make the point that it was a distasteful suggestion. Perhaps we should forget about it and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Storm View Post
    In Civ 2 they had a unit called "Islamic Fundamentalist" which is esstentially the Taliban and Al-Qaeda
    As far as I recall, it was just called a 'fundamentalist', no mention of 'Islamic'. There've been militant fundamentalist from many religions (and ideologies) over the course of history.

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    Please save these discussions for this thread:
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