Past/Future Civs

[mwallyn]

Originally Posted by Morocco
I'm new to this forum but I would like to say that you guys are forgetting a big historic empire.

The Moroccan empire that ruled from Spain to almost whole west of Africa.
Under the Saadi dynasty they destroyed Portugal and killed their King during the battle at Ksar el Kbir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ksar_El_Kebir

The Al Moravid Dynasty


They kicked England's ass at the battle of Tanger while England was at the height of its power

As special Units you could use the Black Guard (The personal army of and founded by Sultan Moulay Ismail consisted of black slaves collected out of West Africa, at its height it was a personal army of 1 million man)

You could als make the Moorish Civilization who ruled Spain and Morocco and parts of current Algeria and Tunis




Typical ignorant and arrogant speaking of usually Americans.
You also probaly think that Africa is one country with 1 president called Lou Lou Zoulou.

Ignorance at it's peek.

Morocco played huge roles and empires in the Mediteranean scene my friend.
Learn a little bit of history.

Morocco and Ottoman Empires were both at the point of almost conquering Europe but where stopped at decive battles, The Ottoman in Austria and The Moroccans in the North of Spain at the border of France.

Speaking about turning points

I wouldn't go around assuming he's American, especially since his profile doesn't say a word about being one. Plus, claiming ignorant=American is equally as ignorant and offensive as immediately dismissing Morocco as a "non-entity".

Now, to your argument, Morocco has seen some love in the 50+ Civ Civilization V thread, but it still falls under a lot of other African powers, such as Zululand, Ethiopia, Kongo, and Carthage. Although it has a strong history with the Barbary Corsairs and was a significant part of the Muslim conquest of Iberia, outside of the Mediterranean, though, they did not exert a great deal of influence on the rest of the world. Unfortunately, this tends to be the case with many of the potential African Civilizations, though many compensate for that in a variety of ways. That said, I would still rather see a nation like Ethiopia come next to represent Africa, or potentially Carthage, but that's just African nations; there are still other nations in the world that deserve inclusion (not the least of which being the Netherlands or the Maya).

In terms of powers, I'm aware that Morocco was quite the scientific nation, so obviously science bonuses are in order for a UA. I had a look at the 50+ Civ thread, and noticed that they had Black guards listed as a UU. They are a bit weaker than normal but can move after attacking, are cheaper to build, and workers can be "upgraded" into the Black Guards. I'd suggest giving a good read through of that thread. Never know what you might find or be able to contribute.