If you want a war scenario try the Denmark DLC; Very good total war scenario, based on William the Conqueror's invasion of England.
If you want a war scenario try the Denmark DLC; Very good total war scenario, based on William the Conqueror's invasion of England.
I want to see Isreal in the ancient era.
Why on Earth would you want to see Israel in the ancient era? Just to play some underdog that will inevitably get crushed?
Modern Israel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ancient Israel
Also Khazars>>>>>>>>Ancient Israel
So you can change history...isn't that part of the fun of Civ 5? Especially with the Earth scenarios.Originally Posted by SlickSlicer
Why on Earth would you want to see Israel in the ancient era? Just to play some underdog that will inevitably get crushed?
Modern Israel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ancient Israel
Also Khazars>>>>>>>>Ancient Israel
Why is there a sign with the word "Why" on it?
When I open Civ V to begin play most of the time it takes an overly long period of time to get past the 'Old Man' sitting in his tent. I understand that there is a fix for this. Could you please tell me what it is?
Thanks.
If possible, send answer to halbigh@aol.com.
but why the founder of the first and longest global empire, Portugal, is not in this game? and why Brazil, one of the next great power of the world is not in the game?
I know what you mean, there are quite a few great civs that have yet to be included. If you want to do something about it you can vote for them here: http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread...-Rule-Them-All
Firaxis do keep an eye on the polls, and this is the biggest poll yet. Make your voice count!
I will admit I am shamelessly partisan by playing the Celts in Civ2, 3 and 4. I never tried Civ1. I also will wait for the Celts to be added to an expansion pack before forking out the dough for Civ5. I also remember a mod to Civ2 that had the Irish replacing the Celts that was fun to play. In civ3 I customized the Celts to the Irish and had a list of Irish cities and Irish notable historical persons. I haven't had time or motivation to try that for Civ4. What I am noticing is that with so many customizable attributes it should be a small stretch to simply have the player's civilization be entirely customizable, e.g. pick your two personality traits (expansioinist & scientific or whatever), define a unique unit and its required techs, and so on, and leave the AI to pick your opponents for offline games. It's easy for me to make such a suggestion because I am a biochemist, not a computer programmer, so I have no idea whether the concept is just too difficult or not to program. So far I've enjoyed the series, and I admit I'll stick to my Irish biases, in accordance with my heritage.
I think the biggest problem with this idea is not that it is hard to program, but rather that it is easily exploitable--though I'm no computer programmer either. If you allow complete customization, then what really prevents one from making a civ with a UU for warriors with a cost of 1 prod, a strength of 100, and a bonus against cities? Even if it is less extreme, personally made unique attributes could easily upset the balance of the game. The other option then would be to have pre-made, blank civs... but wouldn't this be just as good as renaming the current civs and cities, which we already can?
In the past, it depended on the incarnation of the Civ, Civs II, III and IV differed greatly in which characteristics leaders/civs had that you would play with. I liked any Civ that had a leader whose emphasis was on industriousness so you could build Wonders etc quickly. Also, spiritual to ensure no rioting between changes in government. The best for me was therefore Ramses II of Egypt (Civ IV). Also, being English I love playing with my hero, Churchill but also nice to have 2 other leaders in the form of Elizabeth I and Victoria.
Now I try and have a go with all of the Civs to test them out but as I am not aggressive I am not a big fan of the Japanese etc although I did enjoy playing with Songhai. I didn't think I would but I really liked playing with Polynesia, the Maoi statues bring something authentic and unique to that Civ's geography and empire, just like the terracing brings authenticity and a distinctive look and feel to the Incans. Overall, if I had to choose one, it would be the Persians because of their Golden ages and the extra benefits that they bring.
In the future if 2k choose these options: As I am now an Israeli too, I would like to have Israel of course but following on from the above comments, I don't see why Israel has to be mutually exclusively ancient or modern. The American Civ has strong elements in the game from its frontier days and as a modern super power, in England's civ you have as UU bowman and ship of the line, which are some 4-500+ years apart with a leader, Elizabeth, that is somewhere in the middle of that period of history. Israel could have Solomon, David, David Ben Gurion or even Yitzhak Rabin as leaders. UU could be a Maccabee warrior or a Mossad operative, UB could be a synagogue or an improvement on the solar plant we already have in the game (all domestic water usage is heated with solar panels, invented in Israel after the Yom Kippur war in 1973 and the subsequent oil crisis worldwide). Apart from Israel, I am looking forward to the release of the Zulu civ and perhaps the Dutch, Mayan and Carthaginian Civs.
You should gain more gold if you have petroleum resources, you should be able to do embargoes on petroleum and other resources. you should be able to have more than one nuke but it should cost a crap load of gold and you must have plutonium resources available. If there is a resource in another city that does not belong to you , you should be able to trade for that resource either gold or other. You should be able to corrupt politicians, political coo, spread propaganda to make other civs lower culture. later in game barbarians should evolve to terrorists and they can demolish buildings unless you invest in national security.
you should be able to nuke the space station of another civ if they are trying to win by alpha centauri
If you have a monarchy and another civ also has monarchy you should be able to make peace by giving them your daughter in marriage. you only get one daughter per game.
I'm new to this forum but I would like to say that you guys are forgetting a big historic empire.
The Moroccan empire that ruled from Spain to almost whole west of Africa.
Under the Saadi dynasty they destroyed Portugal and killed their King during the battle at Ksar el Kbir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ksar_El_Kebir
The Al Moravid Dynasty
They kicked England's ass at the battle of Tanger while England was at the height of its power
As special Units you could use the Black Guard (The personal army of and founded by Sultan Moulay Ismail consisted of black slaves collected out of West Africa, at its height it was a personal army of 1 million man)
You could als make the Moorish Civilization who ruled Spain and Morocco and parts of current Algeria and Tunis
No one cares about Africa. Get used to it.I'm new to this forum but I would like to say that you guys are forgetting a big historic empire.
The Moroccan empire that ruled from Spain to almost whole west of Africa.
Under the Saadi dynasty they destroyed Portugal and killed their King during the battle at Ksar el Kbir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ksar_El_Kebir
The Al Moravid Dynasty
They kicked England's ass at the battle of Tanger while England was at the height of its power
As special Units you could use the Black Guard (The personal army of and founded by Sultan Moulay Ismail consisted of black slaves collected out of West Africa, at its height it was a personal army of 1 million man)
You could als make the Moorish Civilization who ruled Spain and Morocco and parts of current Algeria and Tunis
We need the Byzantine and the Holy Roman Empire.
We need Carthage back before we add some obscure muslim civilization that hardly anyone cares about.
I've mentioned them numerous times.I'm new to this forum but I would like to say that you guys are forgetting a big historic empire.
The Moroccan empire that ruled from Spain to almost whole west of Africa.
Under the Saadi dynasty they destroyed Portugal and killed their King during the battle at Ksar el Kbir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ksar_El_Kebir
The Al Moravid Dynasty
They kicked England's ass at the battle of Tanger while England was at the height of its power
As special Units you could use the Black Guard (The personal army of and founded by Sultan Moulay Ismail consisted of black slaves collected out of West Africa, at its height it was a personal army of 1 million man)
You could als make the Moorish Civilization who ruled Spain and Morocco and parts of current Algeria and Tunis
I would like to see The Carthaginian Empire. They were huge players in the mediterranian before and during the Roman Empire. Hannibal Barca used strategies that are still in use today. Even the city "Barcelona" is named after his family.
It is a shame, a big shame CIV V doesn't have Portuguese civ. It is bigger shame the series treats this civilization with do disrespect. In my almost 39 years old I bought all Civilizations and I don't remember very well, but I think Portugueses were included just once with the original game and maybe one or 2 times as DLC.
It is a disrespect not because I am Brazilian and of course I'd like to play with our Mother Portugal again, but it is a disrespect because Portugal was the first modern nation as we know nowadays, they have navigated every corner in this world first than English, Spanish, Netherlands or whoever you can mention. If Portugal was big enough to colony all they have discovered, more than 1 billion people would be spoken Portuguese as native language.
Anyway, as a fan of the series, I just don't take this in consideration in order to buy the new releases because I know almost Americans don't know this, almost Americans just think that everyone from Mexico and below speaks Spanish and don't realize that Brazil has almost 200 million people and speaks Portuguese and that Buenos Aires is not the Capital City of the country.
Thus, If 2K Games could insert Portugueses, it would be great.
Yes, but there are still more deserving civilisations to enter the game yet. Portugal is high on the list, but nowhere near as high as, say, Carthage/Phoenicia, the Netherlands, or the Zulu. Also, you've taken quite a biased position here, ignoring other nations and yes, Portugal might have been really powerful, but that's like saying the Ottomans might have won the battle of Austria and eventually conquered Europe. Or that Ireland might have succeeded earlier and then have formed a giant nation. There's a ton of mights in history, but nothing matters except the truth.
I don't know who the leader should be but I really want the Portuguese civ back. It was fun to play in civ 4 and glad they finally added it.
Sorry Carthage doesn't need to be added as it is just spin off of the Roman Empire. They really should just get all the civs and more of the previous civ games. Most notably civ 4.
But at the same time there are ones that don't need to be added. We don't need Carthage or the Holy Roman Empire if we have the Roman Empire. It just isn't necessary.
It would be kind of nice to have an Australian Civilization too. They may not have been known that well or whatnot but I find it kind of silly that they have Sydney as a citystate. And for that matter, Venice, Florence, when they should just be summed into the Roman Empire. I think there was a change they made to the citystates when they added Polynesia to the list, which I have to say was interesting. I have played as them.
Parting statement is gonna be that I am sure the Portuguese civ will be added eventually. The mods for the single civ people have made doesn't work and I don't feel like adding the 15 civs to the game mod design. I am weary about making the civ myself because I don't want to screw it up. Please Sid add Portuguese and some other interesting civs to the mix. Songhai replaced the mali empire from civ 4. Zulus should be added mainly because they were in the previous game and covered South Africa and I believe South Africa needs to be recognized. I liked that they added the incan and spain. That was cool. But Portuguese, come on, oblige me.
Carthage is just a "spin off" but somehow Portugal needs to be added? Peter Weller would give you a harsh glare (just got done watching the Carthage episode of Engineering an Empire).
Yes, Carthage was a spinoff. But ferreira0665, you got the wrong empire. It's a colony of the Phoenicians. And anyway, all three of them (Carthage, Rome, Phoenicia) are so different, in culture, time, everything. Australia, no. Sorry, but we're not that influencial. I'm all for Venice. It wasn't large, but Europe's never been about creating large countries (at least compared to the Muslim hordes). It's about creating financial wealth, and Venice was full of it.
Oh, and the C-S changed when Denmark was added.
edit: Will this thread die already?
Nice! Yeah I can get behind Venice.
Poland never been in civilization yet. It's big scandal, we don't need portugal for 5 time in series, we don't need small venice, we need POLAND. Poland is big country in Europe. Poland change history of the world many time: first, when polish prince take germans to the prussia, second in 1410 (battle on tannenberg), third in 1683 (defended austria and christianity europe), fourth in 1920 (battle with USRR in warsaw - poland won war with usrr and defended many european countries (germany, hungary) from comunism and win impedence for baltic states). Poland says NO for Hitler in 1939 and don't give him Polish pomerania. Poland helped to won battle of england and battle of roma (monte casino). Poland was next to USRR strongest country in comunist block and Poland destroyed comunist block in 1988. Poland was strongest and biggest empire in europe in 16/17 century! Poland have incredible number of great scientist!
Polish fans of civilization many years beg 2k for do polish civilization, we do many petitions (in some petition we have 7 000 votes) and alway all polish efforts go ****.
This such treatment of the polish fans is very disgusting
Well I will say this for you, using words like "big scandal" and "very disgusting"...you certainly have a knack for accusatory, incendiary hyperbole. And just so you know, posts like this are not going to convince anyone that Poland should be in Civ. Personally, I don't think ANY posts affect which civs get into the game, but this kind of post certainty won't help.Poland never been in civilization yet. It's big scandal, we don't need portugal for 5 time in series, we don't need small venice, we need POLAND. Poland is big country in Europe. Poland change history of the world many time: first, when polish prince take germans to the prussia, second in 1410 (battle on tannenberg), third in 1683 (defended austria and christianity europe), fourth in 1920 (battle with USRR in warsaw - poland won war with usrr and defended many european countries (germany, hungary) from comunism and win impedence for baltic states). Poland says NO for Hitler in 1939 and don't give him Polish pomerania. Poland helped to won battle of england and battle of roma (monte casino). Poland was next to USRR strongest country in comunist block and Poland destroyed comunist block in 1988. Poland was strongest and biggest empire in europe in 16/17 century! Poland have incredible number of great scientist!
Polish fans of civilization many years beg 2k for do polish civilization, we do many petitions (in some petition we have 7 000 votes) and alway all polish efforts go ****.
This such treatment of the polish fans is very disgusting
I loved the Celts in Civ3 and Civ4. The food bonus allowed me to focus on production more and with could production, wealth, culture etc follow. Would loev to see teh Celts back in Civ V
He's copy-pasted this in any thread it could remotely apply to. Since I haven't seen him post anything else -- I wonder if he's an Englihs speaker, and if he just had this translated for posting on the official English-only forums. Honestly, I'd do to just ignore him.
I didn't translated my posts from my national language - my english is not good, but i don't need translate-sites to writing posts on this forum.
You lie, i don't copied this post in any thread.
I please you for some respect for me. I'm a man too, like you. Polish civ is very important for polish fans. We are from country with great history, we are big fans of civilization series, but 2k ignoring us for many years. What would you feel in situation of polish fans?
Sorry, you're right, your posts were not entirely identical. Let's take a a look at some of the 12 posts you've made on the forums thus far, for proof:
Poland never been in civilization yet. It's big scandal, we don't need portugal... This such treatment of the polish fans is very disgustingI have played 112 hours. One year of Civ 5 and 2k don't give us polish civ dlcI vote for Poland-Lithuania Empire. It was biggest and strongest country in Europe. It's an excellent country for new civilization. It have unical units and buildnigs... I hope that the creators of Civilization have mercy on us after so many years of polish supplicationSo, sorry, you're right. You don't copy and paste all your post, they just all sound nearly identical to each other. And please don't pretend to be the mouthpiece of Poland. I don't trust or respect anyone who claims to speak for 40 million people.
Every post of your's I've seen talks about how its such a travesty that Poland isn't in the game and how there have been petitions with anywhere between 5,000 and 10,000 signatures on it and that Poland needs to come before any other nation yet included, be it Portugal, Netherlands, or any others. That's all well and good except what would Poland do? You say they deserve inclusion, but what could they bring to the table? That's what your posts are lacking, and thus that's why no one is taking the suggestion any more seriously.
Purely to humor the point, Winged Hussars are quite the Polish icon in terms of military units. Winged Hussars could replace lancers and they would get double flanking bonus and ignore any flanking penalties. In terms of UA's, Poland was an unusually free nation for its day, so maybe they could take reduced unhappiness from occupied cities and Specialists produce an extra .5 GP points.
COme on guys PUT in the game the Portguese. We where the pioneers in the Age of Discovery.
In the 15th and 16th centuries, as the result of pioneering the Age of Discovery, Portugal expanded western influence and established a global empire that included possessions in Africa, Asia, Oceania, and South America, becoming one of the world's major economic, political and military powers. The Portuguese Empire was the first transoceanic empire in history,[10] and also the longest lived of the European colonial empires.
Is every post in this thread going to be from random Europeans begging for their country to be put in now?
To be fair, Europe DOES have the most candidates for inclusion in Civ, what with the Celts, Netherlands, Portugal, Austria, and Poland, to name a few, and that doesn't even count Civs ALREADY included. No other continent has such potential for representation. That said, I would have to agree. Every Civ has an interesting back story and some supporters, but what is really needed is gameplay value.
Karule adding new civ is not directly connected with civ history. It is just a business calculation. Pls dont show your frustration and pls dont be so aggressive with Poland promotion. It doesn't help your country. If you want to play as polish ruler you can use Polish civ mod. I'm also sure that firaxis will enable mods in MP someday.
Going on from mwallyn's post, Europe also has a generally higher literacy rate and greater chance of accessing the internet, so they're either more likely to know English, or more likely to know about Google Translate. Also, European history is stressed in European countries/colonies. If they know the most about it, or feel overly patriotic, than they'll go on a radical and extremist campaign to get people who develop a video game to include their country.
edit: Which is totally ridiculous. You don't see me talking about Ireland every day.
I appreciate this explanation. It does not make it any less annoying I'm afraid.
i hope this thread is not too old to garner some attention in the selection process for civ5 expansion civs, hehe. in civ4 i have probably most enjoyed the turks (for suleiman!) and the indians (how can you not like civ4 india?), but also the khmer, despite the fact that they were probably the most underpowered civ in the game. my interest in this game is driven by my interest in world history, as much as in simulation gaming, so i really look for civs and leaders from interesting historical periods, as well as those that tend to get overlooked in a more eurocentric historical perspective. what i loved most of all about civ4, though, was the fact that, by the time beyond the sword came out, i had enough choices to play sizeable games with regionally themed maps (an all mediterranean civs game on mediterranean map, an all asian or african game on jungle map, etc, etc.) also, as a very personal preference, i would like for more of the great asian civs to be included, like vietnam, tibet, malay, uighur, burma, etc.
also, i loved the portuguese in civ4bts! one of the most fun civs to play of all time. moroccans sound exciting too. more african powers!
I have the same personal preferences though I would like to see more African civs as well.
Originally Posted by Morocco
I'm new to this forum but I would like to say that you guys are forgetting a big historic empire.
The Moroccan empire that ruled from Spain to almost whole west of Africa.
Under the Saadi dynasty they destroyed Portugal and killed their King during the battle at Ksar el Kbir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ksar_El_Kebir
The Al Moravid Dynasty
They kicked England's ass at the battle of Tanger while England was at the height of its power
As special Units you could use the Black Guard (The personal army of and founded by Sultan Moulay Ismail consisted of black slaves collected out of West Africa, at its height it was a personal army of 1 million man)
You could als make the Moorish Civilization who ruled Spain and Morocco and parts of current Algeria and Tunis
Typical ignorant and arrogant speaking of usually Americans.
You also probaly think that Africa is one country with 1 president called Lou Lou Zoulou.
Ignorance at it's peek.
Morocco played huge roles and empires in the Mediteranean scene my friend.
Learn a little bit of history.
Morocco and Ottoman Empires were both at the point of almost conquering Europe but where stopped at decive battles, The Ottoman in Austria and The Moroccans in the North of Spain at the border of France.
Speaking about turning points
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