Really enjoyed it in Mafia, but i suppose it being a period piece that we won't have some of his wonderful tracks in this title?
Really enjoyed it in Mafia, but i suppose it being a period piece that we won't have some of his wonderful tracks in this title?
I think its kind of unlikely although they may toss in a couple of tracks for nostalgia's sake. After all, it seemed like 25-50% of the first game's tracks were by him haha.
Well that's impossible scince Django Reinhardt, lost his ring finger in the late 40's.
And he died on ?/?/1950
Thanks. I guess I was hoping, every time I hear one of his songs it instantly takes me back to Lost Heaven.
Yes of course no new tracks lol. I wasn't asking for that. He died in '53Originally Posted by TheWarPope
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Actually, 44% of M1's licensed songs were by Django (12 out of 27)
Somehow I doubt that many will be in M2, mostly becuase It doesn't fit the mood as well. They connected to the original soundtrack with Louis Prima already.
Wow, I had no idea the number of his songs were that high in the game. That's a pretty lofty number lol. Well, hopefully there will be a little more variety in Mafia 2 (although I did enjoy most of the soundtrack from the first game).Actually, 44% of M1's licensed songs were by Django (12 out of 27)
Somehow I doubt that many will be in M2, mostly becuase It doesn't fit the mood as well. They connected to the original soundtrack with Louis Prima already.
I'm glad they have a couple Louis Prima songs back for Mafia II. And then they have "Oh Marie" in Mafia II or at least a trailer
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You assume wrongWe will have over 120 licensed songs in the game, including a couple from Django Reinhardt. He was such a big part of the sound of the first game, no way we could leave him out of Mafia II. I'm sure we'll be releasing more details on the soundtrack as we get closer to launch.
You assume wrong
Are you Jack Scalici ?
that's great, just the sort of nod to Mafia 1 I'm looking forward toHe was such a big part of the sound of the first game, no way we could leave him out of Mafia II
Are you really Jack? Because I feel a bit skeptical...no offense...anyway I'll send a pm to Liz to see if you really exist, or it's just someone pretending to be you...You assume wrong
Well I assumed, but will glad if I am proven wrongYou assume wrong
Great news if it is indeed the case.
I just got confirmation from Elizabeth that he's the real thing. :P
Welcome to the forums Jack.
The one and only!
Are you Jack Scalici ?
cool! i like that guy
The fact that Django is to be included is huge news to me, and Mafia 2 just got that much better IMO.
Wow, Mr.Scalici I feel very honored to have the chance to talk with youYou assume wrong
I for one loved Django Reinhardt in Mafia 1, and in Bioshock 1....this tune to be exact http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZheXWCURgg
Heh, very nice to see a developer back! Nice to hear that Django will be in, looking forward to the soundtrack list release since I'm a fan of 40s/50s music.You assume wrong
Hello Jack, Thanks for coming on this forum.You assume wrong
I would like to ask you a question, Cause I realize that you are person to talk too, About Dialogue in Mafia II.
And the Dialogue in Mafia II is fantastic, Awesome work.
But I have a worry about the latest E3 2010 demo, I hope you can sort some things out?
1. In the E3 2010 demo, Joe & Vito are not talking about the cops blocking the road off when they are driving up the bridge. But in the E3 09' demo they are talking about the cops that blocked of the road, Is that still in the final game?
2. In the E3 2009 demo, There was someone screaming on the second floor of the distillery, In the E3 2010 demo there is no one screaming. Will there be that sound of someone screaming on the second floor in the final game?
Reason I ask these things, Is because those little cinematics really amazed me, And I hope they are in the original game. If you can, Please clarify this for me I am really worried about it.
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Glad to hear that Django Reinhardt will be back. I guess his music will become a counterbalance for rock and roll era. Also I can't wait to hear some pop music and classic country from the 50s.
I liked the music in the first game, though it did actually get sort of annoying after a while...
It's nice to know some of the old music is back, but I'm glad we have more of a variety this time.
The soundtracks from Mafia were superb. I had no idea who the composer/s were. It perfectly suited the 30s-40s era and i`d love to hear more of it
Thanks for the confirmation Jack. And allow me to thank you for your and your teams awesome work on Mafia II
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Hey guys. Thanks for the warm welcome and all the kind words. Please forgive me if I am slow to respond to your questions. My time is still kind of limited, and Elizabeth has also threatened me with bodily harm if I reveal too much
it was one of the few games I never turned the music off, which is usually the first thing I doI liked the music in the first game, though it did actually get sort of annoying after a while...
just wouldn't be the same without it, won a big award for music in games as well, but can't remember which.
yeah i think you're right, although this is 50s but the people still loves gypsy jazz music, especially from the musician like django reinhardt. and yes this is gonna be a 'counterbalance' for music in the 50s era.
welcome to the forum jack. it's been along time ago since denby & martin discussed with us. nice to see one of developer in this forum again.Hey guys. Thanks for the warm welcome and all the kind words. Please forgive me if I am slow to respond to your questions. My time is still kind of limited, and Elizabeth has also threatened me with bodily harm if I reveal too much
We protect youHey guys. Thanks for the warm welcome and all the kind words. Please forgive me if I am slow to respond to your questions. My time is still kind of limited, and Elizabeth has also threatened me with bodily harm if I reveal too much
I don't want to mislead you guys. You won't hear much Django Reinhardt in the 1950s. I'm pretty sure his music only appears once or twice when you're in the 1950s. Before you all freak out, let me explain
We actually had too much music to work with. If we kept every song available on the radio at all times, there is a good chance that most players would never even hear some of them. So we decided that just like real life radio stations which change formats (the type of music they play) all the time, so would the radio stations in Empire Bay.
Artists like Django Reinhardt and Louis Jordan will appear on the "Empire Classic Radio" radio station in the 1940's. This radio station plays classic oldies, so this is where you will find the kind of music we all enjoyed in the first game.
Once you get to the 50s though, we really wanted everything to feel new and different. Empire Classic Radio still plays some oldies from time to time, but it has modified its format to focus on music from pop artists like Louis Prima, Dean Martin, Tony Bennett, etc. So this is where you will hear the music you would expect to hear in a good mob movie. If you want rock n' roll or R&B instead, you'll be able to find it on the other stations.
But like I said, you will hear Django Reinhardt's music at least once in the 1950s. And who knows... maybe we did that on purpose
Oooh sounds like ol' Mr. Reinhardt is going to have one of this song's played during an intense moment during the storyline.But like I said, you will hear Django Reinhardt's music at least once in the 1950s. And who knows... maybe we did that on purpose
Quick question, unless I'm off my rocker, I remember that ambience music was played during most of the missions in the first Mafia even when there didn't seem to be a source for it anywhere in the environment. Is this going to make a return in the sequel and will there be music played during specific parts of the story even if there isn't a radio or other musical device in the immediate vicinity?
That's sweet, Jack! Nice to hear that you guys still stick up for authenticity in the soundtrack department. Because I don't want to hear a lot of music like swing and classic rag everytime in the 50s, they should improvised as the time goes by. I'm looking forward to hear more details about soundtrack, and thanks for the explanation, Jack.
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That's good to hear I like Louis Jordan's song "You Run your Mouth". Direct from the bar, Mr. Dean Martin! Always a treat
Of courseHey guys. Thanks for the warm welcome and all the kind words. Please forgive me if I am slow to respond to your questions. My time is still kind of limited, and Elizabeth has also threatened me with bodily harm if I reveal too much
But I do have 2 questions, that I don't really think are spoil questions. Since you are the creative director, and have played Mafia 1, I assume you could maybe answer this (if not then that's okay to ^_^)
1. Do you think story wise, Mafia 2 is better than Mafia 1?
2. You feel Mafia 2 has a legitimate chance of winning Game of The Year?
Thanks
the way the stations work sounds good, shame the classic one didn't keep playing Mafia oldies
so that'll be the time to look out for a Mafia 1 character thenmaybe we did that on purpose
agree!! i think some hints will be greatso that'll be the time to look out for a Mafia 1 character then
I have a free minute so let me answer some of the questions. Pardon me for being too lazy to quote your original posts
Vito S. (forum member, not the character), I'm not sure if all of the little things you have seen in demos and trailers will make it into the final game. Things change very quickly during the last months of development, and I'm not personally involved in every little change the team needs to make before launch.
We always design and implement the nice little touches like this, and I agree that it's one of the things that really sets Mafia II apart from other games, but whether or not they make it not the final game depends on many factors.
The two biggest factors are resources and ratings board requirements. If resources need to be freed up for other things in the level, or if one of the many ratings boards takes issue with something in the game, it is likely to get removed.
American M. (forum member), answers to your questions:
1. It's far better. I have said elsewhere and I will repeat it here that I thought the story, dialog and overall storytelling in the first game all could have been done better... but the game had an overall magic to it that kept me playing. I'm sure some of you guys disagree with those comments, but when I met Dan Vavra he completely agreed with me, and we focused on making everything in Mafia II better than it was in the first game.
2. Yes, but obviously my opinion is a bit biased
Thanks for answering Jack. It's nice to finally have a developer back.I have a free minute so let me answer some of the questions. Pardon me for being too lazy to quote your original posts
Vito S. (forum member, not the character), I'm not sure if all of the little things you have seen in demos and trailers will make it into the final game. Things change very quickly during the last months of development, and I'm not personally involved in every little change the team needs to make before launch.
We always design and implement the nice little touches like this, and I agree that it's one of the things that really sets Mafia II apart from other games, but whether or not they make it not the final game depends on many factors.
The two biggest factors are resources and ratings board requirements. If resources need to be freed up for other things in the level, or if one of the many ratings boards takes issue with something in the game, it is likely to get removed.
American M. (forum member), answers to your questions:
1. It's far better. I have said elsewhere and I will repeat it here that I thought the story, dialog and overall storytelling in the first game all could have been done better... but the game had an overall magic to it that kept me playing. I'm sure some of you guys disagree with those comments, but when I met Dan Vavra he completely agreed with me, and we focused on making everything in Mafia II better than it was in the first game.
2. Yes, but obviously my opinion is a bit biased
I must say the interview you did with GameTrailers, really swayed alot of people into becoming of supporters of Mafia 2.
One last thing I want to ask, the demo at E3 took place in a summer/spring like setting, yet the demo at e3 09 took place during Winter. Was this done not to spoil anything, or is this how it's going to be in the game? An if so why the change??
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it's that overall magic that has kept me playing Mafia 1 since it was released, as for the dialogue and storytelling I guess that's true, although story is the one thing most games seem to be very light on, and it's also what I would say most fans remember the first game for.1. It's far better. I have said elsewhere and I will repeat it here that I thought the story, dialog and overall storytelling in the first game all could have been done better... but the game had an overall magic to it that kept me playing.
really looking forward to seeing what you've done with part 2, I can see the mechanics & gameplay have improved a lot, but for me Mafia 1 is going be a very hard act to follow in terms of plot and characters, not to mention that ending
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Thank you so very much Jack, I appreciate the insightful answer.I have a free minute so let me answer some of the questions. Pardon me for being too lazy to quote your original posts
Vito S. (forum member, not the character), I'm not sure if all of the little things you have seen in demos and trailers will make it into the final game. Things change very quickly during the last months of development, and I'm not personally involved in every little change the team needs to make before launch.
We always design and implement the nice little touches like this, and I agree that it's one of the things that really sets Mafia II apart from other games, but whether or not they make it not the final game depends on many factors.
The two biggest factors are resources and ratings board requirements. If resources need to be freed up for other things in the level, or if one of the many ratings boards takes issue with something in the game, it is likely to get removed.
I do hope it makes it in the final game, But it's no problem, I understand you can only fit so much on a DVD disc.
Last edited by Vito Scaletta; 06-25-2010 at 10:08 PM.
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