The official E3 XCOM trailer is online. Check it out here:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/142523...=f73e1c6828ss4
Anyone else recognize the music?
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ps...bioshock/38083
EDIT: If anyone can find an HD version of the trailer let me know, I'd like to download it.
Last edited by IllusionOfLife; 06-10-2010 at 08:33 AM.
Wow, you and addict posted this at almoste Exactly the same time. You were literally seconds faster.
Lol, I just saw 2K post it on facebook, and I took time to watch it myself then came over here to share
Great call with the music, Illusion. I would've never noticed it.
EDIT: I should mention my extreme dislike for Microsoft fanboys, as I only have a PlayStation 3 and a PC that can't run games for crap. Know that when I say you suck, I mean it in the nicest possible way
Last edited by Doctor Tivilon; 06-10-2010 at 08:46 AM.
I just finished watching. It looks pretty sick. I especially liked the tesla-esque gun. What better way to kill alien slime balls than a few thousand volts?
Another thing I noticed is that one guy in particular was killed by the alien actually travelling into his mouth. It jumped on his head and then stuffe ditself down it's throat. To me that signifies it might either be possessing his body, and simply killing him from the inside out.
This video has made me really excited for the game. I never played the originals, so I'll be going into it cold, and so far it looks like it could turn out to be a really awesome FPS.
ahh beat to the punch! lol oh wellI'll just say again here that...in -my- OPINION the game looks AWESOME(because I know if I just plain say ''it looks awesome'' I'll get beat down
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I agreem,I'm even MORE excited for it that I have been since the XCOM ARG started...if that's even possibleOriginally Posted by magicman4443
Last edited by Adam Addict L; 06-10-2010 at 08:37 AM.
Just noticed the link on Facebook. I havent really been following anything going on with this, but it looks amazing.
Looks like this was made using the press test build we've heard about, so it's worth mentioning that potentially none of this is final. That being said, it definitely looks interesting. I'm sure that people are going to attack the trailer, but just remember, whether you like this or not, take it with a grain of salt.
I couldn't have said it any better myself
Ohhh my ~[bleeping]~ God that was amazing....The black goop balls though are a very oddly unique enemy. I hope there are other variations though not just tar blobs. The beginning felt like Destroy All Humans! too
I watched the video and came here inmediatly, I didn't see any post, and I was surprised. I showed the vid to my brother and came here again, to find this
Now, I played the original ones long ago, but I think the change fits so far. I won't discuss the reasons here, so I'll just say: I want to get this game.
Off-topic: When the blob got into the man's throat I felt bad. The sound was just disturbing. BUT, I loved when he threw the "napalm/molotov" bomb at the blob and yelled "DIEE!!"
So did anyone else notice that the 2K Marin logo at the end was 2K Australia's yellow rather than the turquoise we saw with BioShock 2? Makes sense seeing that they combined the studios, but I just thought I'd point it out.
I actually missed that lol
Looks extremely meh, like a version of 1950s X-files (now I've seen it in motion). The shooting doesn't even seem that invigorating (the shotgun was pretty lame, albeit the tesla gun did look fun) as the black blob aliens just aren't that interesting to begin with.
Pretty disappointed.
Edit: It also gave me a very serious bioshock vibe, especially the camera and shotgun behavior.
Last edited by Aegeri; 06-10-2010 at 09:03 AM.
I agree with all of what you said. Looks awesome but please let there be some different enemies.Ohhh my ~[bleeping]~ God that was amazing....The black goop balls though are a very oddly unique enemy. I hope there are other variations though not just tar blobs. The beginning felt like Destroy All Humans! too
Also I really can see the Bioshock styles carried over in that trailer.
Check out the companion article that IGN wrote, it might not change your mind (probably not
Yeah, this definitely kills what faint hope Ihad this was even remotely X-COM-like.
Terrible, just terrible. The game just radiates Bioshock, so why not rape that IP instead with this ill begotten monstrosity?
It didn't say anything new and to be honest, how can anything about this game be aimed at "Fans of the series" when it's basically trying to appeal to a Bioshock/X-Files demographic? They still haven't confirmed important aspects like what role the base exactly plays (or more precisely, what role you have in the decisions in its expansion and such), which would be just about one of the only things it has in common with the original games. No, blob aliens do not count.Check out the companion article that IGN wrote, it might not change your mind (probably not
But in the end the trailer confirms what I had read repeatedly in multiple previews: The game isn't X-Com.
Well I meant that the article itself was talking to the fans, not necessarily that the game was. But I'll repeat myself as well, everything in due time. There's no new information because the trailer is obviously made from the test build that we've already read about.
I think 2K is playing things close to the chest at this point and I suspect they'll drop some more exciting news in gradually larger doses leading up to the release.
Of course, I could just be wrong, and 2K could just be raping the franchise, but I have enough faith in them at this point to hope that they wouldn't deliberately do anything that stupid.
Last edited by IllusionOfLife; 06-10-2010 at 09:15 AM.
The track record many publishers have had from taking X old IP and making a new one, let's say Y out of it leaves me with little confidence.
Edit: And objectively speaking the shooting blobs does absolutely nothing for me. This is aside from anything the game has to do with X-Com, that aspect of the game just looks absolutely terrible.
Last edited by Aegeri; 06-10-2010 at 09:21 AM.
What the?
Did everyone just start taking stupid pills?!!! This isn't XCOM! What the heck happened? I remember XCOM controlling a squad and using strategy, not (sigh) another FPS...Wow, gaming has fallen completely off the intelligent cliff! Zipper is dumbing down socom4 and now one of the BEST strategy squad based games ever on the PC, has been shuffled around to 2KGames, and now we get this....sad...sad day.
I'd like to point out once again that it is not X-Com, its XCOM. Its not the same game, even though its been labeled a "reboot" in the media that it is clearly not. Yes, people are disappointed that they aren't getting a new strategy game. Maybe, just maybe, if the FPS XCOM does well, they will do a strategy based X-Com in the future. It has been (insert exact number of years since the last X-Com, my apologies for not knowing the number!) years since the last one, maybe the XCOM "rebranding" is an attempt to get interest in the name again?
That being said, I think the trailer looked pretty neat. Yes, the "fps HUD/arms" looked BioShock-ish, but tell me one FPS that doesn't have arms with a gun in them. FEAR does. Half Life does. Seeing as it's the same team that has worked on bioshock, I am not surprised that they look/feel similar. We'll have to see if the gameplay does as well or if things change a little between now and release.
People said this about Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel.Maybe, just maybe, if the FPS XCOM does well, they will do a strategy based X-Com in the future.
Didn't work out too well either. Actually it's worth noting despite that game being a massive failure we did in fact get a Fallout: RPG. That was actually pretty good. So in reality if this game entirely fails we might expect something different. If the game does well, it's silly to expect something different: We'll get another X-Com FPS game.
That's how "reality" works sadly.
Edit: Someone elsewhere said this, but this game could do really well as being an FPS update to World of Goo.
I don't know if you're just now finding this out or what..but,,,it has been known for QUITE a while by most of us now that this game was going to a FPS,and there's even quite a few threads that talk about that fact. So,yea...take that for what it's worth
I understand 2k's hope and attempt to keep the FPS thing going, but if you haven't noticed. All those FPS games that you mentioned are just that....more FPShooters. The industry looks saturated with these and....(Super kudos BTW at 2kgames for bringing out Spec Ops(TPS) bravo!!) frankly I'm not the only one feeling this. FPS if done for in the near future then what? Why don't they bring back the diversity, and get a headstart on the competition? I don't know of any squad based strategy games that 2kgames has made, have they any experience in the original X-Com format or style? I'm no expert, was just wondering if they can make those types of games?
As for FPS,I'm just tired or have no patience for first person shooters anymore. I say 2kgames take on Zipper and make a better third person shooter. Hopefully Spec Ops:the line will be that step, I'm onboard..
Interesting way of creating interest; urinating on the taste buds of pretty much every X-COM fan there is.
X-COM has been in the top 3 of best games ever since it was released and is idolized by pretty much any gaming editor/reviewer out there. Its name is synonymous with the genre. They could do a straight re-make and the internet would catch fire from the generated buzz.
And you think it needed this affront to it's name?
Last edited by Elmar Bijlsma; 06-10-2010 at 09:53 AM.
To be honest watching the trailer again my biggest problem with the game isn't what it does do or doesn't do as an X-Com game; but because it looks positively boring. A summary of the trailer could easily be:
1950s houses! Neat radio! Things are going well. Guys arrive and then the woman goes all creepy. Then blobs! More blobs! Blobs up walls! Blobs on the floor! Blobs on people! Did we mention we have some blobs in this game?? Photographing blobs! More blobs! Burning blobs! Have we shown you enough blobs yet? Oh look, modern art assault! It blows up unoccupied cars for some reason. Trailer ends.
I mean I can spot the flaw in there.
Hold on...I'm not missing ANY point...all I said I was most of us have known for quite a while that this game is going to be a FPS,and that there's quite a few threads on that fact...there's NO point to miss there...it's not like I said ''zomgz you should have known it was going to be a FPS'' or something
Fact 1: It has been known that this game would be/is an FPS
Fact 2: There's threads talking about said game being an FPS
No point to miss there,at all. So no offense..but..don't tell me what I am or aren't missing.
You are so right about that remake! I can see it now, lol!!!
But it isn't X-Com. This is a point that has been argued to death, already, and I'm not going to entertain the conversation any more. 2k even changed the name of the current game (albeit slightly, and I do think that was a mistake on their part) to XCOM as if to anticipate that it isn't going to be the game you've all been waiting for/idolizing.
Ergh, I probably shouldn't have posted anything. I didn't really want a discussion about what XCOM wasn't seeming to be and what X-Com was. I feel bad for people who are coming here expecting to, you know, discuss the trailer or anything for the first time, having never heard of XCOM or X-COM before.
Yea, I wasn't talking about wether or not it was FPS, I was mentioning that theres just too much FPS on the table for us in the world. I think bringing back diversity in styles should be a devs priority and that will keep the think box excited and wanting more. Give FPS a break for a while, or heck better yet, find a way to combine FPS with TPS and squad based strategy all into one! Different play styles for different stages! Theres a new concept eh?Hold on...I'm not missing ANY point...all I said I was most of us have known for quite a while that this game is going to be a FPS,and that there's quite a few threads on that fact...there's NO point to miss there...it's not like I said ''zomgz you should have known it was going to be a FPS'' or something
Fact 1: It has been known that this game would be/is an FPS
Fact 2: There's threads talking about said game being an FPS
No point to miss there,at all. So no offense..but..don't tell me what I am or aren't missing.
I see, no prob. I am new to these forums so I guess if you guys discussed this all in the past, my bad, lol. I've been on the playstation forums for a while and just started here. Yea I see what your saying about the name change. That is mainly what threw me off, I was at first like WOW! A new XCOM!! LOL, I was almost gonna jump out of my seat....heh.
It's so our fault that 2k games named this game after something it has almost nothing to do with and that has led to many developing a pretty negative opinion on the game. I mean, I would have personally not called this game "XCOM" at all because the pedantry game you're playing here is just not a convincing argument in the least.But it isn't X-Com. This is a point that has been argued to death, already, and I'm not going to entertain the conversation any more. 2k even changed the name of the current game (albeit slightly, and I do think that was a mistake on their part) to XCOM as if to anticipate that it isn't going to be the game you've all been waiting for/idolizing.
Ergh, I probably shouldn't have posted anything. I didn't really want a discussion about what XCOM wasn't seeming to be and what X-Com was. I feel bad for people who are coming here expecting to, you know, discuss the trailer or anything for the first time, having never heard of XCOM or X-COM before.
When they released information on the game it was announced as the 'return' of X-Com. It was not announced as a game that wasn't the return of X-Com, that is exactly what various sites and similar called it. As a result it is being judged on its merits as a 'return' of the original X-Com. So you can drop this silly goose of an argument as its really not convincing anyone.
You are right this game isn't X-Com, just not for any of the (immensely weak btw) reasons you gave. If the marketing and previews all weren't claiming this was supposed to be an update or "bring back" of X-Com you would have a point. Sadly 2k has already killed your argument, because that's not how they have presented this.
Last edited by Aegeri; 06-10-2010 at 10:06 AM.
I'm not saying its your fault, I am saying the level of aggression on this forum is very off putting. As I have said multiple times before, I understand that you're angry; X-COM is a precious thing to you all. Still, in the grand scheme of things, such as having already had no game for about ten years (and since no one told me when the last one came out in my previous post, this is what I assume it is) I don't understand why you can't file this away in your mind as "not my game, I don't want to see anything else of it" and leave off jumping all over the people who are interested.
I'm terribly sorry that I am not part of your special "I have played X-COM and worship the ground it walked on" club, but that does not make me any less allowed to be excited for the game than it does for you to be angry that it isn't the game you want. What I am asking for is mutual respect on these boards and civil discussion. Is that really so much to ask for?
I'm not angry in the least. You could describe me as very disappointed and that I'm not at all enthused by the trailer, which I think is actually awful even if I don't consider this an X-Com game.
It starts really well, then goes rapidly downhill when it shows variations on blobs and really unexciting looking combat.
I normally agree, but the point here is that while the game is in development complaints can and might matter. When the game comes out sticking around after I've played the game will serve no point, but during development hopefully some changes can be made (it is early days yet).I don't understand why you can't file this away in your mind as "not my game, I don't want to see anything else of it" and leave off jumping all over the people who are interested.
Making it clear that trailers like this really aren't selling everyone on it is equally important. If you want a forum to be an echo chamber where only positive comments are allowed may I suggest you make your own?
By telling me that I shouldn't express an opinion on what I think looks terrible? Sorry, no thanks. Like I hope what people have complained about actually does change the game. Like there being control over squads, base micromanagement being confirmed in the developers minds as a good thing etc. At the same time, negative outcry can do far more to making someone go "Maybe we should give a strategy game a shot" than buying an FPS, which will result in... more FPS games. Because that's what happens.What I am asking for is mutual respect on these boards and civil discussion. Is that really so much to ask for?
I mean I'm answering the arguments you made because they are ridiculously silly and not because you like the game. Otherwise why haven't I said anything about many of those on the first page who did say they liked it? I'm not responding to you because you like the game, I'm responding to you because you're making terrible arguments.
Last edited by Aegeri; 06-10-2010 at 10:19 AM.
So do I. Because those that are unfamiliar with the X-Com name are going to associate it with this new iteration. What's in a name you ask?.. Everything. 15 years of gaming tradition/hitstory.. that's what. Dropping a hyphen does not equate to changing the branding. They know people would draw the association.
2K needs to learn to not drag something unique through the mud then slap a new badge on it.. proclaiming it's the rebirth of the series. When in fact they've only drilled home a nail in the coffin.
(what the hell is with that electrial dust buster in the clip?).. "Who ya gona call?"
It's probably a tesla cannon, but given this game is basically 50s X-Files crossed with Call of Cthulhu I wonder if its inspired by a Yithian Lightning Cannon. Given its probably based on alien technology rather than Tesla, it's probable that its inspired by that given the sheer Cthulhu in this game. It's also the best thing shown in the trailer.(what the hell is with that electrial dust buster in the clip?).. "Who ya gona call?"
Shooting blobs :/
well, let's face it, if Bioshock 3 turned into an RTS, I, (and probably the rest of the Bioshock fanbase) would be just as disappointed/angry. Switching genres for an already established game would confuse and disappoint fans. If Bioshock 3 were an RTS, would you just walk away?
I'll have to agree with you there, 2K doesn't make the most compelling gameplay trailers in the world (we had the same kind of problems in the BioShock 2 forums a while back) and the fact that this is limited to gameplay from a short press demo limits its effectiveness further.
Which brings me back to my original statement that this doesn't necessarily represent the finished product. I know, I know, that's 2K's responsibility, I'm not defending them or the trailer in this case. I'm simply saying that 2K has a tendency to focus on action, Action, ACTION! in the gameplay trailers rather than things that would perhaps make it more compelling to people who like more than just online multiplayer.
Like I said, take it with a grain of salt.
And I'd also like to say (this is not directed at you Aegeri, you can stop paying attention now) to anyone who dogmatically proclaims that UFO Defense is the best game ever made! let's get a bit of a reality check. There's a little thing called nostalgia and it has this uncanny ability to make cherished things from the past seem like the alpha and the omega of anything they're compared with.
I have no doubt that the original X-COM was a great game, and it's ok for it to be your favorite game, but to profess that it's the best game ever created, FACT! is not just annoying, it's foolish. You're perception is all gooey with nostalgia, and while it may be your favorite game, it is far from a fact that it's the best game ever created. So let's back off on us 'infidels' who haven't experienced its wonder, please?
So long as there was a story to it, no, I wouldn't immediately slap it down as "the worst thing to happen to Bioshock." I'd wait until just before release to make my decision. After all, IGN et al always has a review out before plebs like us can buy it.
Aegeri, I'm sorry my arguments came across as stupid. I was attempting to be peaceful and not incense your side of the argument by actually liking the idea of a game - after all I stopped posting down here for the vicious comments that basically amounted to "get off the forums if you like this game, its our place to get what we want" (at least, that was the feeling that I got from the forums at the time, and I don't feel that the attitude has changed at all now). They say first impressions mean a lot, and I am guilty of letting that fear of being harped at colour my arguments. Next time I won't actually attempt to engage folks in discussion that it may not be as bad as things seem - its obvious that nothing will put a dent in your opinions (nor should it if you feel as strongly as you do!).
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