Mafia II - Likes & Dislikes

[Vito Scaletta]

I created this thread, So we can talk about what we like, And what we don't like in Mafia II.

I myself, Think the game is absolutely phenomenal, Except a few things I will write my list of things that I don't like.

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.

I really wish they kept everything from Mafia I, And just added.
Why did they remove features that made Mafia I so great.

Mafia I was so great all because of it's simulation. And now they have gone arcady style. Maybe it will be different on Hard mode? or different on PC? I hope so.

But everything else in Mafia II as I said earlier, Is phenomenal it's a real gem the damagable interiors etc, Just amazing I say well done to the developers.

[throwingks]

How could you possibly know all that?

[Tom2020]

I created this thread, So we can talk about what we like, And what we don't like in Mafia II.

I myself, Think the game is absolutely phenomenal, Except a few things I will write my list of things that I don't like.

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.

I really wish they kept everything from Mafia I, And just added.
Why did they remove features that made Mafia I so great.

Mafia I was so great all because of it's simulation. And now they have gone arcady style. Maybe it will be different on Hard mode? or different on PC? I hope so.

But everything else in Mafia II as I said earlier, Is phenomenal it's a real gem the damagable interiors etc, Just amazing I say well done to the developers.

1. Never cared for it.
2. Yeah so what? It looks phenomenal anyways...
3. Wrong, it's there.
4. I prefer the garage....
5. They never ditched anything, there trying what works best, and perhaps for them that system works better, also the garage was arcade from day 1, so don't make this sound like a new, recent thing.
6. THEY NEVER DITCHED THE COUNTRY SIDE, IT'S STILL THERE!!!!! Just because it's not on the map, doesn't mean it's not there. For example there's an observatory, which is located in the forest on top of a hill, that's not country side?
7. I have confirmation that's only for the demo, so people can get a feel for all the weapons
8. Meh...preferences again....

[Denomaniac]

I created this thread, So we can talk about what we like, And what we don't like in Mafia II.

I myself, Think the game is absolutely phenomenal, Except a few things I will write my list of things that I don't like.

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.

I really wish they kept everything from Mafia I, And just added.
Why did they remove features that made Mafia I so great.

Mafia I was so great all because of it's simulation. And now they have gone arcady style. Maybe it will be different on Hard mode? or different on PC? I hope so.

But everything else in Mafia II as I said earlier, Is phenomenal it's a real gem the damagable interiors etc, Just amazing I say well done to the developers.

I think Denby said that theres arcade or realistic mode. Realistic mode is called something else but the definition is the same thing

[Fugue]

I'll wait to actually try something to like or dislike it....

[eddiescarpa112]

Look peoples why dont we just all be grateful that we are getting such a beautiful game if 2k took some features out and put some in arcady things in it will probably make the game better.

[InFAILity Ward]

Dislikes:
Very small map

Likes:
Will be released simontaneously on consoles & PC! (love 2K for this!)
Best damn mafia story ever

[495]

I created this thread, So we can talk about what we like, And what we don't like in Mafia II.

I myself, Think the game is absolutely phenomenal, Except a few things I will write my list of things that I don't like.

1. They removed Manual Transmission

2. They removed the Dynamic Car Crash System

3. They removed the Car Mileage

4. They made car storage way too Arcady, I would have preferred a Parking Lot

5. They ditched the GamesCom clothes selection, And yet again same as the garage went Arcade.

6. They also ditched the CountrySide

7. They also made it available to have 8 weapons at once, Wich is Arcady again.

8. And One of things that bothers me most for Combat, Is that when you have a half full magazine, And you reload the gun, You don't loose the remaining bullets in the magazine.

I really wish they kept everything from Mafia I, And just added.
Why did they remove features that made Mafia I so great.

Mafia I was so great all because of it's simulation. And now they have gone arcady style. Maybe it will be different on Hard mode? or different on PC? I hope so.

But everything else in Mafia II as I said earlier, Is phenomenal it's a real gem the damagable interiors etc, Just amazing I say well done to the developers.

Im with you in every regard. A True mafia 1 fan, just like me!

Couldnt have said it better!!!

[Vito Scaletta]

I am glad you agree with me 495, As it appears you are as well a true Mafia I fan.

[ddennis90]

Likes:What's not to like with an amazing realistic mob game set in the 40's and 50's.

Dislikes:Umm...give me a minute maybe i'll find something. Nope, can't find anything.

[dinge]

I agree with the OP, many things have become more arcade (the game has got to sell right?). Nevertheless, the game looks beyond awesome it's way too hard to top a game like Mafia I in the first place.

Dislikes: The game is more commercial and arcade-ish.

Likes: Everything else became even better.

[Thymen Molizzo]

I believe that the "TE GAME HAZ DO SELL" argument's Bull-feces..
If they really wanted it to sell, they'd have added multiplayer.
Because we all know that is what sells best, nowadays. Most games without seem to get ignored by the majority of people.
I never do play multiplayer, though.

They made the game as realistic as possible, then, after showing us all those nice realistic things.. They changed them.
I'm not happy with it, but I can live with it. It's just the garage, and wardrobe.
The weapons however, I dislike. I really hope it was purely for the demo.
As that will, for me, make the game much less fun.

[danik615]

Im with you in every regard. A True mafia 1 fan, just like me!

Couldnt have said it better!!!

im adding myself to your little mafia 1 fan secret group lol
i agree with every word
and i really hope the "weapons carrying" and "not loosing remaining bullets in mag when reloading" will depend on difficulty and arcade/simulation mode
really dissapointed that they're cancelled the dynamic car crash system
but i don't really care about manual transmission

[danik615]

I believe that the "TE GAME HAZ DO SELL" argument's Bull-feces..
If they really wanted it to sell, they'd have added multiplayer.
Because we all know that is what sells best, nowadays. Most games without seem to get ignored by the majority of people.
I never do play multiplayer, though.

They made the game as realistic as possible, then, after showing us all those nice realistic things.. They changed them.
I'm not happy with it, but I can live with it. It's just the garage, and wardrobe.
The weapons however, I dislike. I really hope it was purely for the demo.
As that will, for me, make the game much less fun.

i totaly agree (except i play multiplayer somtimes)
OT
it would be cool if the game had co-op multiplayer story and mobwors
and you could play 100 (or more) mafia wars (gang wars)
and earn respect by that

[Fugue]

They made the game as realistic as possible, then, after showing us all those nice realistic things.. They changed them.

like what, what has actually changed that much since the first footage was shown, other than the wardrobe? The garage has always been that way.

as for "realism" how "realistic" is a line of clothes that automatically move when you look at them

in the first system you could not really see what you were selecting, in the later system you can, it makes more sense imo, the whole one is arcade, one is realistic argument is ridiculous, neither is realistic at all, like the rest of the game...

there are things that I would prefer to see back in the sequel, like losing ammo in dropped magazines & health kits but they are just small game mechanics, which don't really matter to me, from what some who actually played both games have said it's still very much a "Mafia" game.

[Thymen Molizzo]

You're right. They never did show a non-arcade garage.
I believe they had. My bad.

The clothes selection was MORE realistic, as you could actually see multiple clothes hanging in the closet. Just like I can when I open my own closet.
Instead of just seeing one shirt, that magically changes it's appearance to whatever I fancy wearing that day.

[jdwarfer]

I don't like the garage system, which is too arcadish.
I don't really like the small size of the map.
I don't like so much the french dubbing.
I don't like the fact that when the story ends, we can't continue playing.

[Thymen Molizzo]

I don't like the fact that when the story ends, we can't continue playing.

Who said that?

[jdwarfer]

Who said that?

Well, someone here said that but anyway it seems logical to me.
The fact that some stuff like weather is not changing in real time... so if we continue, there will be the same weather, so same period, the time won't pass anymore ?
You know, it's not like GTA 4, where you see days passing, day/night stuff...

Mafia 2 will be over-scripted to death. Every mission will be in specific atmosphere, scripted weather, time... am I wrong ?

[Thymen Molizzo]

You're right about that.
But I'm 90% sure there will be some kind of free-ride or free-roam mode after we've finished the game.

[Fugue]

Mafia 2 will be over-scripted to death. Every mission will be in specific atmosphere, scripted weather, time... am I wrong ?

no you're not wrong, but as with the first game (which was exactly the same) it's meant to be very movie like, like Mafia 1 was, it's a sequel after all....

I really don't understand why so many want this game to not be like Mafia 1 and be like all the other free roam/sandbox games instead, there are masses of them to choose from, play one of those instead and let Mafia 2 be what it should be.

[Anacardo]

I do agree with the garage bit. Even GTAIV doesn't offer something that arcadish. The Garage system in mafia1 looks (keep in mind that we haven't played the game yet) better from this point of view. As for the rest, I'm all for the freeride.

[Thymen Molizzo]

no you're not wrong, but as with the first game (which was exactly the same) it's meant to be very movie like, like Mafia 1 was, it's a sequel after all....

I really don't understand why so many want this game to not be like Mafia 1 and be like all the other free roam/sandbox games instead, there are masses of them to choose from, play one of those instead and let Mafia 2 be what it should be.

We don't want Mafia II to be the same like other games where you can do what you want, instead of having to do what the developers want you to do.
We want to enjoy the game as it's meant to, but we also want the option to play once the game has finished. We want freedom. We don't want to play one mission after another...

[jdwarfer]

We don't want Mafia II to be the same like other games where you can do what you want, instead of having to do what the developers want you to do.
We want to enjoy the game as it's meant to, but we also want the option to play once the game has finished. We want freedom. We don't want to play one mission after another...

We will be able to do whatever we want between two missions, like in Mafia 1.


That's true Mafia 1 was scripted, and when the story ends, it's finished, but we could play the free roam mode, which was quite entertaining.
So, like Mafia 1, Mafia 2 should have a free roam mode, because I'm pretty sure the game will end with the story. So, a free roam mode is needed if we want to keep playing without retry the whole story mode.

[InFAILity Ward]

no you're not wrong, but as with the first game (which was exactly the same) it's meant to be very movie like, like Mafia 1 was, it's a sequel after all....

I really don't understand why so many want this game to not be like Mafia 1 and be like all the other free roam/sandbox games instead, there are masses of them to choose from, play one of those instead and let Mafia 2 be what it should be.

I agree totally, the atmosphere in Mafia I was incredible and unlike any GTA -or any other sandbox free-roam game- I ever played.

Don't let this game transform into one of the many soulless games out there wthout a (proper) story and just missions (excuses) to drive somewhere, kill a person and drive back..

[Fugue]

We don't want Mafia II to be the same like other games where you can do what you want

We want freedom. We don't want to play one mission after another..

isn't that a contradiction....

Mafia 1 = linear movie like game one mission after another.

Mafia 2 = linear movie like game one mission after another, with a little more freedom, I remember that's exactly what Mafia 1 fans were asking for following the release.

So, a free roam mode is needed if we want to keep playing without retry the whole story mode.

agree with that, has anyone actually said there wont be a free ride mode?

[jdwarfer]

agree with that, has anyone actually said there wont be a free ride mode?

Nobody said it will be one neither... I'm quite pessimistic about that. Producers should have mentioned that if there is one, don't you think so ?

[Fugue]

probably, guess we'll know more at/by E3

[Thymen Molizzo]

Can you all do me a favor?
Please just stop acting like everyone played and can remember Mafia I as if it was released a year ago?

It was released what, 7 years ago?
I no longer own it, and can't remember a single bit from it anymore, sadly...
And I'm sure I am not the only one.

[Mafiashock]

I've liked everything I've seen so far. I'm not going to nit pick at things from a demo of an unfinished product. I'll make final judgements on the exact things I do and don't like when I actually play the final version of the game as opposed to watching youtube videos of it.

[Tez Jaggs]

everyone here worried about not having alot of free roam (me included) buy RED DEAD REDEMPTION that will kick mafia's arse in terms of free roam. and RED DEAD REDEMPTION will be game of the year, no doubt about it. cant wait for mafia 2 though!!!!!!

[Thymen Molizzo]

Tezz, we already know you like RDR.
You've said it a million times by now.
Talk about it in a RDR forum instead of a Mafia II forum?

While you're here, talk about Mafia II?

[Tez Jaggs]

Tezz, we already know you like RDR.
You've said it a million times by now.
Talk about it in a RDR forum instead of a Mafia II forum?

While you're here, talk about Mafia II?

i'm just saying as alot of people have been voicing their opinions about lack of free roam and are concerned (me included) their is an alternative with lots of free roam and activities. i know mafia is a linear experience but i was hoping for some decent free roam also.

[Fugue]

Can you all do me a favor?
Please just stop acting like everyone played and can remember Mafia I as if it was released a year ago?

no sorry, and how can you forget what is probably the best story in gaming history

[Thymen Molizzo]

I know that you're only trying to be nice, Tez.
But it almost seemed as if you were trying to advertise. Haha.

Fugue, I was.. 11 or.. 12 at the time.
I can't remember the exact date.
I don't believe I've finished it either.

Anyways, aside from being made by the same company..
And some other simularities, Mafia I and Mafia II are two entire different games.
Just like you can't compare GTA Vice City to GTA San Andreas, or San Andreas to IV.. and so on.
Atleast, that's my opinion.

[jdwarfer]

Anyways, aside from being made by the same company..
And some other simularities, Mafia I and Mafia II are two entire different games.
Just like you can't compare GTA Vice City to GTA San Andreas, or San Andreas to IV.. and so on.
Atleast, that's my opinion.

GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas are made with the same programming and physical/graphical base. So we can compare them.
They are mainly the same. They just have different stories, different characters, and a little graphical enhancement.
There are many more differences between GTA SA and GTA 4, in all aspects.

Mafia 1 and Mafia 2 are not really two different games like GTA SA and GTA 4. Aside from the technical differences, the atmosphere, the way we'll supposed to play, the story based kind of game, it's the same stuff, same feelings.
Maybe it looks far away from Mafia 1, but it's just because many years have passed, and so there are many enhancements possible.
If the devs didn't wait so long between Mafia 1 and Mafia 2, these 2 games could be as much different than GTA Vice City and GTA SA at the begining.

But that's just my opinion

[Don_Vito]

I am glad you agree with me 495, As it appears you are as well a true Mafia I fan.

Are you trying to say that the rest of us aren't or...

[kriauciuniux]

Not dynamic car damage modeling

[HD Dime]

Mafia II needs more activities, but otherwise it is a master piece.

[Fugue]

Not dynamic car damage modeling

they did say it wasn't about 2 yrs ago....

Mafia II needs more activities

it really doesn't