GettyGod, I see you're improving your game and your rank in H2H. I look forward to some fun games!
I'm 100% sure that the mispelling of the great Geddy Lee's name is gonna be used as "bulletin board material" for my civ! It's gonna be hanging in every barracks!
ohbuggerit just add me as a friend is the best bet, my game tag is Sliders80.
I'm 100% sure that the mispelling of the great Geddy Lee's name is gonna be used as "bulletin board material" for my civ! It's gonna be hanging in every barracks! [/QUOTE]
Originally Posted by GeddyGod
Oops! Sorry! BTW, I just sent you a friend request from one of my accounts.
Edit: Tomorrow could be good... I'll send a PM or catch you online. I'll check during the late morning and early afternoon Pacific time.
Last edited by Zefelius; 05-21-2010 at 12:15 PM.
That may work out perfectly Zef. I'm taking my daughter to see the new Shrek movie tomorrow late morning/early afternoon depending on showtimes. Later on that day she is supposed to go visit my sister. Being east coast, I'm 3 hours ahead of you, so if your thinking late afternoon/early evening, then she will be there and I will have free play time. I don't play nearly as much as I'd like, but my normal playtime is at night, sometimes late, so you being 3 hours back, it should work well. I'll accept ur request asap and I'm sure that between tomorrow and the following day, we'll have plenty of time for me to try and make a series of it and not get pwned by 3000BC :/
I'll get at ya tomorrow after the movies.
Geddy vs. Zefster
Sir Geddy and I played our first match, a quick one finished in less than 10 minutes.
I was nervous at first because after moving my Germans to what I thought would be a better location, it actually turned out that I just moved closer to the Aztecs! After taking my first village with a warrior I saw his Aztec warrior army and I backed up into my cap and made another warrior in hopes that I could form an army before he attacked---which is usually tough to do as it requires more steps than simply attacking. Sure enough, I wasn't fast enough and Geddy attacked with gusto----but one nice thing about the Germans is they don't always have to have archers up for a good fighting chance, and this time I lucked out and won the battle. This game could have easily been Geddy's, but after I marched my own army up to his cap (while sending out another toward the Japanese) I beat back a horse and then walked in.
Nice game Geddy, and I look forward to our next match tonight! The only thing I have to do tonight is skype my gf at 10 pm Pacific.
Zef vs GeddyGod game #1 recap. Was a fast game as GeddyGod(Aztecs) were positioned very close the the Zefster(Germans). Aztec WA attacked Berlin around 3200BC losing 3-2.5. A few turns later a German WA appeared outside of Technoticlan(sp?). Aztecs had 2 horses inside with the 3rd 2 or 3 turns away hoping for a barb. Best odds were too attack the German WA, but lost both battles 2-4.5.
With game #1 in the books... The Zefman has a 1-0 lead in the series. Possible game #2 this evening.
Yet another reason to use Firefox. Tenochtitlan is in the spellchecker dictionary. So is Karakorum.
Originally Posted by GeddyGod
An easy way to remember it is to just think of it as wonderful paradise of technotitland but then chop off the last letter and move the letters 'ch' to the space right between techno and tit. Hopefully that helps!
Wowzers...I wasn't even close! In my defense, my head was still a little blurry after Zef ran a bunch of German Warriors over me.
One more game like that and I'll be forced to take a long vacation in 'tit' land and re-evaluate things
Aight Zefinator. I'll be getting on in less than 5 mins. Figured I'd msg here and then on XBLive to cover all bases. Not sure on my civ choice, but it will have a capital with a more obvious spelling.
GeddyGod and I matched up Japan (me) against Spain.
So here's a question. Because of family obligations, Geddy called it quits. Technically I have the right to take the win. But I would hate to see the round end b/c a game came before family, and neither of us was clearly winning when he left. So we're going to do a rematch. Does that mean I have to choose Japan again? Usually with a freeze I think that's the rule, but since this is voluntary I think we should be allowed to rechoose our civs. Any disagreement??
Want to thank you again Zef. Thought I had an other 2 or 3 hours until she got home, but when she gets sick/hurt, there is no consoling her by anyone in the world but Daddy.
You had an AI cap, so you could say you were winning. I do believe that I was in good shape though with 200g and a 2 whale island city that I got with my 100g. Sucks that I lost to a French archer with my KT knights 7-4, but that's kinda my luck.
Since there isn't any rule for this situation in place, I'm down for whatever you wanna do. I actually had Japan selected while waiting for you to accept the game invite only to change it 2 more times, until finally settling on Spain. Since we have been and are currently on good terms, I leave it completely up to you. I will keep Spain if you wanna keep it the same or the opposite.
I do wanna thank you again and publicly for being super cool. I was prepared to concede the victory, because quitting was the only option I had. She is feeling a little better. Probably all the snacks she had at the movies catching up with her. She is half asleep, but ever since the day she was born, she will fight sleep to her last breath! I'm just laying next to her and typing this on my phone until she is out for real.
Depending on the time, I may play a random FFA game, but with her falling asleep this early, that means she'll be climbing in my bed and jumping on me yelling "waffles" around 6am, so I may just get some sleep.
I have most of the day free tomorrow. At least until the LOST series finale festivities begin...once that starts I will be at a friend with benefits house for the show and other 'activities'
Can't believe its been 6 seasons. Really gonna miss it, but this finale should be epic.
Again...thank you for your understanding. You are cool in my book. I owe ya one.
RUSH on my friends!
A few players have asked for redos so far and none have been played. I havent agreed with any of the redo requests, including the one where I lost and Aemon offered to replay(due to the GW disagreement).
Originally Posted by Zefelius
Having said that this sounds like it could go eitherway. After hearing the explanations, if it was as close as you say then go for a replay.
I think there should probably be a rule about that for the future. Something along the lines of "If a family emergency warrants a redo and both players agree then its fine, but if it happens twice the 2nd is a forfeit." or not. As adults we should be able to scedule our games without interruption but children are obviously the exception, as are family emergencies in general. I think we all would have left in that situation and no fault should lie on geddygod.
Zefs always been known as a fair, honest and cordial player so I say its up to him. If he feels the need to redo then In this particular specific case I would say its allowable.
Last edited by GrizzleyTigers4; 05-22-2010 at 08:27 PM.
I'll allow it, since it's up to them to decide. Frankly, if neither report it then it never happened So I don't see any issues with players making arrangements with themselves to handle these types of things.
though I would suggest staying with the same civs. it's the choice you both made, so you should play it.
Last edited by MadDjinn; 05-22-2010 at 09:38 PM.
As I am grateful towards Zef for allowing the re-do, I'm up for anything. It really was beyond my control and I can honestly say that I would have done the same toward any of the forum players that I've been in contact with so far, if I were in Zefs shoes.
That being said, although it was beyond my control, I messaged Zef fully prepared to concede victory, but with the game in its most infant of stages and Zef being a class act, he offered the re-do and again...I thank him for the opportunity.
Regarldless of Zefs eventual civ choice, I am more than happİ to stay with Spain. A huge reason why I chose them to begin with, was the early navigation. The advantage as far as artifacts and island expansion aside, I mainly wanted to ability to find Zef quickly and if rushing him early wasn't a real option, I planned on watching his play style and almost take notes so that if nothing else I learn something.
Our first game went very fast. Had I have won that fateful first 3-2.5 battle my WA wouldve received vet, boosting me up to 4.5 and with the auto heal feature, I actually couldve won, BUT it would almost feel like a loss. When I randomly drew Zef, my first thought was 'Doh!' But then decided to give it my best shot and to make sure I paid attention, so that I would learn something every match.
Ugh...I rambled. Anyway, What Madjiin said is spot on "if no one reports than it never happened" but in the future, maybe have a guidelin for it on the off-chance that the players can't be adults about the situation.
Unfortunately I didn't read MD's comment above before the game, so Geddy and I had a fresh start on civs. In the future we'll just keep it to ourselves and nobody will ever know!
Okay---So I'm Greece while Geddy chose the Arabs. For some reason I thought he'd make that choice, which is why I went with Greek defense.
But I start on a crappy island, not crappy enough for a redo, but definitely crappy! There's one village and the Aztecs on the other side of a medium sized island. I take a risk and attack them 3-2 (I got a spy from the village and took out their fortification). I win that and get an upgrade, and win the next one too 4.5-2.5. Whew!
I don't see the Arabs anywhere. I grab the KT knight, attack Mongolia and lose. But I'm actually able to find a couple of huts on the mainland, so put my sea tiles on gold and get my free settler. It was all very slow, but at least I knew I was away from Geddy's horse armies.
In typical Zef fashion, I forgot to build my library. I had only one grassland and a bunch of plains, so it took forever to grow to 4. But once I started teching the early techs of pottery, masonry, and irrigation, the library didn't matter too much since they are such low beaker techs anyway. Then I finally built the more expensive library!!
Although my start was slow, Athens had a whale and so did two other cities of mine which settled from Tenochtitlan. I also had my 5th city on fish. So I went to Navigation and my game started picking up very quickly, as I had most the early tech bonuses of the wall, +1 pop, the spy, and the galleon. Galleons were going to be great for defense if Geddy sent any boats my way with horse or knight armies, and obviously navigation was spectacular for my whale cities and expansion. I then got CoL and was about to hit Currency first before I started expanding to more islands, when the game froze.
What a bummer. It would have been a good game as I was hoping to invade the mainland with quick teching to knights and cruisers after expansion and cheap libraries, but I'm sure Geddy would have been prepared with plenty of +1 knights himself.
He was a great sport and conceded the game to me, as we both thought momentum was in my favor. You never know for sure, but I'm glad he's fair enough to give me this win.
It'll be interesting to hear how his side of the game went, and I look forward to reading about it...
Last edited by Zefelius; 05-23-2010 at 04:57 AM.
Game #2 ended with an unfortunate freeze. My Arabs vs Zefs Greeks. I started off a lil slow, took forever to get my ha's out. I got a veteren upgrade freindly and then got HBR for free, which wouldve been great had I not researhed 16/20 already lol.
England was close by so my first HA went there only to lose 9-7 to an archer.
As Zef said, he attacked the Mongols, but lost his KT knight. I think as a result those pesky Mongols defended with archer armies. I lost 2 more HA's to the Mongols 13.5-12 and then 18-15. Such is my luck.
Toward the end I had 6 or 7 cities. All of which were a couple turns from libraries. I also had 2 production cities. One of which had 5 hills with the free construction workshop, barracks and a GL I swiped from England.
Zef backfilled a bunch of techs erasing a slim early tech lead I had. He had gotten to CoL first and had a great set up for expansion.
After my HA rushed failed I had to tweak my plan, but Zef was starting to pull away. I started to bank hammers in my 2 production cities, which wouldve turned into as many KA's as I could afford.
Was really the only chance I had, but with Zef doing his thing he wouldve gotten to me with his knights first and/or had superior defense by the time I wouldve gotten mine out.
I was definantLy trailing and against a lesser or equal skill opponent, I think I had a real chance to comeback with all those KA, but in reality, Zef is a great player and wouldn't have made the mistakes I needed him to for me to comeback.
This was my first tourney/experience as an official forum member. Despite going out almost instantly, I am very happy to have met Zef and look forward to more games vs him and more tournaments in general.
Thank you Zef for the overall great playing experience and also for being a gentleman and a scholar the whole way. You Rock!
Thanks Grizzley and Geddy for the friendly and kind words.
I'm sure we'll play plenty more games, Geddy, and you'll get your chance for revenge! 5 hills with the workshop is incredible---along with a GL. Sounds like you still had a chance. Luckily I had the tech lead and one more cap than you, otherwise it would have been too close to call and we'd have to do another redo!
Last edited by DotHaze; 05-23-2010 at 06:26 AM.
Lost 2-0 to matsgutt...very bad start game 1, 0 barb/friendly. His English knights took my Japanese cap. Game 2 I horse rushed the mongols(CPU) and took em but as I did mat horserushed my cap before I could get my archers up.
Game 1: matsgutt wins with English / dothaze loses with Japanese
Game 2: matsgutt wins with Egyptians / dothaze loses with Germans
good game and very awesome guy!
ohbuggerit when ever your ready to play just add me as a friend my gametags Sliders80.Im not to sure if thats your gametag, or your forum name.
zef and geddy
Use are both great sports and the way use both handled your games was a "great" example to all forum players, good job.
Hey geddy just add me as a friend my gametags Sliders80
Thanks man. I will send the request the very next time I log in to XBLive. Maybe we could play some games soon.
Also, ohbuggerit is his name on XBLive also, unless there is just another spelling that's just a tad off. I sent him a request maybe the day before the tournament pairings were set. It is still pending, so he may not have been online in a couple days. Just what I've noticed, maybe the reason you guys haven't hooked up yet.
Good Luck, hope to vs you soon
I'll be down to play this afternoon after work if you want. Anytime after 5:30 pm cst. Actually any day this week after that time is fine. Just let me know.
Still on the road so maybe not tonite till after 10:30 est. If not later. Otherwise this week is good.
Originally Posted by watdog11
Yea for sure geddy im up for some friendly matches.
let me know when you'll be on.
Originally Posted by watdog11
I would of been on last night but my ac adapter for my 2wire modem went out yesterday. Damn the luck. It was weird sitting at home last night with no internet. I was lost. Just ordered one and should have it either tomorrow or Friday.
Originally Posted by MadDjinn
just wondered when you wanted to play our game. I'm on GMT. I could schedule some games over this weekend or even monday as its a public holiday here then.
Yea sounds good.Here in australia we are 9 hours in front of use in the uk.So if you can play in the morning monday around 10.00am your time that would be great.
Originally Posted by ohbuggerit
Last edited by Jackoneill; 05-28-2010 at 11:13 AM.
I broke down and went and bought an adapter. So I'm good to play whenever. Just let me know.
Me and Mad played 2 of our first round games.
My Arabs - His Japs
We met at the third barb from Tripoli with single warriors. I was on a hill so I took his warrior out. With my other warrior i cleared 2 of my barbs and sent a ha his way. The meeting point barb he got as i was sitting back waiting on his ha to counter attack it. Waited a bit then decided to go north towards Kyoto. Was shocked to find it empty. Walked in.
My indians - His spanish
I had a slow horse rush with Americans north and English west. Went for Washington. Didn't heal my horsies and lost 3 to 2.5. Friendly pointed my to KT which was 2 tiles from Delhi on an island. Rushed galley and loaded archer and Knights and headed to Washington. Took it then took 2 Mongol cities. Had trouble at Karakouram then realized he showed up at Delhi with 2 or 3 legion armies and a gal fleet. Next time I will pay better attention when diplomacy pops up. I didn't even know he was there until he attacked. Needless to say I had one archer there and lost. He got religion and I knew it was over. I could of had a lot better defenses. Took Karakouram finally 10 to 15. He then took Wash and then another of myu mongol cities. Spent the whole game rushing archers. He also took Karakouram. I hung on until about 1200 ad just being a pest. I took Delhi back with a HA the turn he took London for what would of been the game ender. Then he showed with a cruiser fleet. Game over. But it was actually over long ago.
Fun games Mad.
I look forward to the rubber game.
I never made it to 100g
Last edited by watdog11; 05-29-2010 at 08:37 AM.
Reason: added winner from 2nd game
watdog and I finally got 2 matches in.
first match I knew the map since it was a GoTW map (same start) from long ago. I hit the 2 close exploration tiles and get a barb hut then run into watdog at another. he killed my warrior but I just finished HBR, so I rushed a horse and got it down there in time to steal the hut from him.
got horse army together and started teching BW (2 turns prod saved). unfortunately I decided to move my HA north instead of waiting around and the same turn I get 10 g from another exploration tile, he drops into my empty cap gg
2nd game went much longer.
I started as the spanish on a big island. settled in place, but had 2 whales + dye around. settled one settler on whale/2forest and the other on 4 forest, oxen, plains, water - made this city my barracks city.
sent out a galleon (3 artifacts around) and got lost finding nothing except the english/american/mongolian AIs. bah.
dropped more settlers on 1 tile islands (double whale, whale dye, etc) and teched to IW. pushed out 2 more galleons, 3 legion armies and a few vet archers.
he got the KT, but I knew where his cap was finally. drop everything off and take it for religion.
sailed north to washington (he had taken it) and took it. he was working on the mongolians so I decided to go there as well. dropped off by a nice barb city with a hill and took it. Sadly, his luck started turning around here. Even though my militia had a higher defense he still targeted my inf 1 health legions as the defenders (had galleon support) and killed them. (3.5 def. or so) he got march and attacked again, killing my 7 def. militia.... so I used the legion army still on the hill to kill his KT. I dropped off the final legion army + vet archer and cleared some space while I went around the other side to the mongol cap (he had taken it).
At this point I was super teching, and hit democracy. I went into it and 1/2 second later the diplo request came in. ok. 1 turned engineering, then GS'd Steam power.
finally found 7 cities and the arc with another galleon, so I took them and rushed a cruiser fleet to go with the 5 cat's I had stored up. Went over and took the English cap. Also went back to fundy and took the mongol cap.
but wait! there's more!
I had made another archer in dehli + made a legion army and put it on a hill in the space between dehli and his next city. but due to me never looking there, he snuck some archers and a HA in to take dehli... d'uh. Sadly, I had also gotten a GB in dehli that same turn. so it got settled.
had to bring the cruiser fleet over to take it, but in the mean time he started pressing washington with single horses. Sadly, the 3 defense legion army was targeted first again. despite there being two 5 def. archers there. Which he also killed against the odds. the pike finally stopped him. arg.
I took Dehli back and that was game. It was a really long game due to the distances and me wiffing on finding the artifacts, even though I had a good idea where they were.
Im on right now if you are ready.I can wait an hour, but no longer.I have to go to work in a few hours.
Game 1 my greeks vs ohbuggerit arabs.
I picked the greeks because i had a feeling ohbuggerit would pick the arabs or the aztecs.So the greeks were great for defence, that was my thinking.I had a pretty good map, the zulus and the english were right next to me, that came in handy early on when i sold them some cheap techs, to get my 100 gold.
ohbuggerit started up at the top of the map, great for me i thought.Ohbuggerit built a ha and a wa and took rome, but didn't switch to col.The next few turns ohbuggerit landed on my map, and he wen't to my nearest city and attacked, and lucky for me he failed.
As ohbuggerit was attacking i found the 7C of gold, and then i started to fortify my cities.I also had another bit of luck, were i stole a gl from london.That came in pretty handy while ohbuggerit was attacking in fundy.A few turns later ohbuggerit flipped one of my cities, ouch.
I started to gain a tech lead, then ohbuggerit quit around 1400ad.It was a fun game, and i look forward to the next one.
that's weird you thought i quit! It told me that you had quit! Must have been a connection issue then. After you had 'quit' though i was still playing against the computer.
We were getting quite a lot of resyncs so perhaps the connection was bad.
I had a weird start in that on the 1st turn i had a 5 pop city with 1 free warrior in my cap. Next turn though it resynced and went to an unsettled settler so i actually ended up losing a turn.
was a very slow start for me as i was on an island with the romans and only 2 barbs one of which the romans got so it took me a long time to get 100 g, i had a few more cities than you by the time the connection broke down but you were still ahead with tech.
What happens now then with that game? Seems like we should replay it no?
not in the spirit of a fun tournament
Last edited by Jackoneill; 06-01-2010 at 11:20 AM.
I think the same thing happened to the two of us- ie it said the other had quit and we were both left playing against the computer. I was carrying on for a bit and then i thought you were asking me for the next game so i came out of it and sent you an invite to the second game. However i don't recall conceding the game although i did send a gg well played message as it had been a good game to that point.
I am not being funny with you, just stating how things were my end. If its that big a deal to you then i would rather concede its only a game after all. Its just that i don't think i was that behind- had a few more cities than you and 2 cat armies on a galleon on its way towards you and a GS saved up. I am not saying i would have won, but equally i don't think you can say you had it in the bag either.
If you are not happy to play again then i will concede, but i would also like you to accept that i am not trying to cheat you in any way here.
not in the spirit of a fun tournament
Last edited by Jackoneill; 06-01-2010 at 11:19 AM.
Reason: not in the spirit of a fun tournament
not in the spirit of a fun tournament
Last edited by Jackoneill; 06-01-2010 at 11:20 AM.