In purple hegdehogs thread it says what BD's look like in LS eyes but when your protecting them as in breaking a splicers skull what does that look like patting their head
In purple hegdehogs thread it says what BD's look like in LS eyes but when your protecting them as in breaking a splicers skull what does that look like patting their head
Little Sisters see Big Daddies as knights or heroes, they would probably see a Daddy killing a splicer as a knight/hero killing a monster.
Well I'd Imagine it would be simply knocking the Splicers away and then they just "Sleep" or they just don't get up. I don't think there would be any sort of blood.
Besides, even when the Splicers tried to grab you in the Little Sister Level, they didn't look menacing, only normal.
Well they do say things like "X his eyes!" and something about stars and birdies so maybie they see a childish version of the violence like in the Tom and Jerry show?
well I'd like to think from the Bioshock 2 launch trailer where Delta kills the crawler that was chasing the little sister...they obviously don't see bloody,gory horror when Big Daddies(especially Bouncers) kill splicers
This is a contradiction to me. When you play as LS, you see splicers as nice people. Alive, they stand around and don't harm you - you walk right past them.
Why is it only 1 splicer - the one in the cell - that breaks through reality and you see what the splicer is really like? Why wouldn't all the other splicers that you walk past try to get you?
This is exactly what bugs me too. And why don't the splicer attack when she gathers ADAM? Why is there no Big Daddy around her?Originally Posted by Relight
The thing that also bugged me was that Big daddies are supposed to look like knights in armor with a flowing cape like the statue of one after you climb out of the vent, but when you look back down at yourself as soon as you've morphed from delta to little sister, you look exactly the same, a battered old Alpha series! all except for some strange fluorescent glyphs that appear painted on to the helmet etc.
I can see why there is no BD accompanying you, simply because you haven't waited in a vent for one to come along and knock and lift you out! but yes i did sort of expect to have to do a lot more sneaking or legging it!!!
By the way, in this section does everyone agree that there are only 3 angels to find and extract ADAM? and yes i agree the process is a lot quicker than usual!
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Well, that could be a further idealization for the purpose of a statue. Like when you make a statue of someone, you make it as good as possible.
Huh? The model is all gold and not battered at all.you look exactly the same, a battered old Alpha series!
http://www.game-archivist.com/raptur...d/delta-ls.jpg
http://www.game-archivist.com/rapture/posted/tables.jpg
Yes, there are 3 angels.By the way, in this section does everyone agree that there are only 3 angels to find and extract ADAM?
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I'm starting to think that 2kMarin got sloppy and put a lot continuity errors is the LS part specifically. The only explanation I have for the splicers not attacking u is because they work for doctor Lamb and anyone who works for doctor lamb has been told not to harm a little sister or there would be consequences which is why they didn't attack you while you gathered adam from the corpses. The only reason why in BS 2 you get attacked is because doc lamb doesn't want you specifically anywhere near or using a LS so she sends her goons to attack you and stop the LS. I think that's why we don't see splicers and BD's fight all too often and if they did, they probably are the splicers that haven't sided with lamb yet. The one who tried to attack you from the cell was probably a defector of some kind and he was being punished.
What you said and the fact that only when provoked or ADAM extracting will reality ensue and it doesn't mean being near a splicer who isn't gonna harm you.
Maybe these aren't continuity errors, just blanks that aren't filled in.
Well it seems from playing Bioshock 2, that little sisters see the world and everyone in it as a wonderful place. But the moment they are under attack, they snap out of it and see the world how it really is. For instance when a big daddy is shot at the sister "wakes up" and says "unzip him Mr. B!"
Great ideas, guys, thanks! I think some of those ideas might have come up before, I had totally forgotten them
eh nevermind
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MAYBE they aren't splicers. Maybe they're just citizens.
Really, 2K, more citizens, less splicers! It would certainly make us more careful with our fire. (Well, the responsible gamers, a true minority I know.....)
They are splicers
http://www.game-archivist.com/raptur...outer-p-01.jpg
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Well we know that Little Sisters see the world through a different light, and that the Little Sisters see Big Daddy's as knights or protectors. Hopefully in the next game we'll find out how the reality breaks or the specific conditions in which a Little Sister sees the real world. As for not being attacked in the Little Sister level. I think the idea stated earlier that the splicers were told not to attack seems like a probable theory, and that the one in the cell attacks because it isn't following orders, and is in a cell because of that.
Maybe in the third game you'll play as a Sister and find out how everything works for the them in depth, like maybe as a little sister that got older and stopped seeing things like a Little Sister would. Because Big Sisters don't see the world like Little Sisters do, and they used to be Little Sisters!
Yeah that makes sense. I also remember them saying "all your faces are melting"
Witch I think means she was seeing the transition from the nice face to the real one.
Then again she dose say things like "he's dancing daddy dancing! lets dance with him" when you electrocute people and "mmm marshmallows" when setting people on fire sugesting they are still in a dream state even tho you are being attacked.
but they do scream and run away from you if you get to close before you attack (so the don't only "wake up" when they are directly hit) and "stingy in your litte eyes" (insect swarm) sounds like she is seeing a fight.
Dose this mean the little sisters are sadists? maybe they are seeing the real world and just find it funny anyway?
Hmm maybe Eleanor mind ****ing them is why they seem to stay in a dream state when with you or maybe they do see a cartoon version of the violence but it switch to normal during the little sister sequence because of your influence…or maybe 2k was being inconsistent
I dunno if they make a 3rd game this could use some clearing up.
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Granted, he's lovely and shiney and gold but he's still not the knight they portrayed all the BD's to look to LS's, BS's look like brides to LS's and that has nothing to do with a statue or a romanticized icon!?!
There are many mysteries in the world of Rapture. But who knows, maybe all the sisters have different levels of hallucination. Everyone in the world is "engineered" slightly different so it would make some sense.
why is it when i ask a tiny question it gets blown up into something way bigger
Because it would require speculation from several or a large group of people.why is it when i ask a tiny question it gets blown up into something way bigger
I have half-heartedly tried to correspond the LS sequence w/real Rapture.
Where is this tableau?
(And why do LSs see big stairways where none exist (afaict)?)
This is just up the stairs from where you pick up the tiara / helmet.
I think I took the top image looking one direction, and the bottom two images are looking the other direction, which may be adding to the confusion.
You don't ever see those splicers in the "real world" - hence, their odd-looking behaviors.
The only way to get those screenshots was to ghost.
I realize I haven't added them yet - I've only added a few so far - I have at least a bunch more screenshots coming from this level, including screenshots of "real world" areas that you don't really see or don't ever see in the game besides ghosting to see them.
As for the stairways - if you're talking about the ones I'm thinking of - they would "exist," you just don't ever get to those areas as Delta, giving you the chance to see them. In terms of ghosting, some areas that you don't see are actually built in the game, and some aren't.
Last edited by Relight; 05-09-2010 at 08:57 AM.
I just realized someting..when you look at a splicer in the LS level they look like Andrew Ryan,all except the females..Don't know what they look like...
A few pics of splicers from the LS level here:
http://www.rapturearchives.com/archi...izens-1969.php
I've noticed the Little Sisters see blood as rose petals. I thought that was a very cool idea. It might look pretty to a Little Sister when seeing a Big Daddy drill through a Splicer, to be honest.
I think that most of them looked completely normal because of part of Lamb's brainwashing, because most everyone down in Rapture worked for the Family. But as for that specific one, I'm not sure.
Thats what i thought to, i thought Hmm.... no big daddy......theres an angel.......Crap......Then i just gathered and nothing happened....So i saw that splicer group and i was like.....oh crap those guys arent imgination are they? those are just splicers! so itried to sneak around and one saw me and i was like...Crap Game over but he didnt move...So i walked up and was like WTF but then i saw the butterfly that meant their with lamb, so they worship lil sisters, after i harvested the body there i tried to see if i could make them bow down before me D:<
Heh totally, I thought that was awesome too - but I never made the connection and thought about seeing a Big Daddy drill through a splicer - what a great visual! That *would* be very pretty!
keep dreaming kid...
Oh yeah, I was replaying Pauper's Drop and for the first time I noticed the ceremony at the beginning of the level where the Little Sister is climbing into the vent, presumably having just taken ADAM from the corpse on the altar. I mean, I noticed the ceremony before, saw the splicers praying or whatever, but I hadn't noticed the Little Sister in that scene.
Plus I'm paying more attention to the audio diaries this time... you miss a lot the first time you play I think, it's definitely worth multiple playthroughs. I kind of knew a lot of this stuff, I just hadn't been connecting the dots
uh oh boys mr. persons in the house
I sense an excellent figurine coming!
HAHA, her head's up Delta's ass.
Classy stuff there, einstein.
I wondered about this as well. I even wondered if that splicer, was someone more important than other splicers. I wanted to go back through and explore those areas more, as Delta and see who that splicer was.
Little Sisters see Daddies(LSD)
Maybe they just don't pay any attention to the killings of the BD. Maybe their minds wipe that out or replace it with a happy thought that doesn't make them remember/see the actual killing taking place.
~Mari.
I think LSs live in the moment-- otherwise they'd go crazy from PTSD.
As long as there's somebody who smells like a BD nearby, they're good.
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