Frank Fontaine
Yi Suchong
Sander Cohen
Andrew Ryan
Sophia Lamb
Stanley Poole
Bridget Tenenbaum
Gil Alexander
Easy enough. Who is the most vile, twisted, cruel individual in Rapture?
For me, Fontaine. Fontaine is probably the biggest reason Rapture went to hell. The whole story is linked around Fontaine, and his perfect example of the parasite... Greed... taking it all... until he ruined Rapture forever.
Lamb made Eleanor watch delta kill himself right in front of her...i hate her...
"Hahahaha!! NICE work Boyo..."
Most chilling words EVAR!
Tenenbaum...Little Sisters.
She knows she's cruel.
She tried to redeem herself.Originally Posted by Rybow73
Cohen is a section 8, says I. He has no remorse, he's just a LOONEY, and has totally lost it. I'd vote for him at first thought. But jeez, this is a whole roster of cruel people we have going here. Need to think...
Yeah, I guess he did plaster human beings.
Probably Fontaine.
Ryan and Lamb had method to there madness, Fontaine was just all about money and power, he destroyed anything or anyone that got in his way.
He also placed hits on anyone he didn't really like.
Needless to say, the Andrew Ryan meetup is the most memorable scene I have played in a video game.
Ever.
killing someone is not as bad as condemning them to a zombie like mind control, just being able to scream in your mind to escape. and killing a puppy. suchong is by far the most cruel.
except Fontaine is the BRAINS behind Jack's mind control
alsp,it's a tie between Fontaine,Lamb,and Ryan for me. Fontaine thought up the idea to place Jack under mind control...to have every one of Jack's thoughts be a lie. Ryan turned his back on his people,and Sofia tried to force Eleanor into a life she didn't even ask for,much less want
Last edited by Adam Addict L; 05-03-2010 at 09:58 AM.
Its a tossup between Fontaine and Sander Cohan... Fontaine played with peoples trust, he only cared about himself and was sometimes cruel for the sake of being cruel. Sander Cohan...was just plain sick, poor Fitzpatrick.
uhhh ill pick Fontaine, if only because he had a bigger impact than Cohan and part of Cohan’s cruelty was from insanity I guess
Suchong was very cruel...and that’s really all I can say about him. But Sander Cohan and Fontaine practically make him look like a saint.
Andrew Ryan was cruel to Diane but he never struck me as being an intentionally cruel person and compared with the others he's not all that bad. Plus he didn't start out cruel, he was trying to create his dream of a perfect city. If anything I would call he naive.
Lamb... yeah she was cruel but she wasn't pointlessly so. She played with peoples trust even more than Fontaine and tried to force Eleanor to be what she wanted BUT she thinks she’s doing what’s good. That point alone is why I won't vote her the cruellest
Stanley Poole was a selfish coward but I wouldn’t call him cruel
Tenenbaum WAS cruel (tho still not as bad as Fontaine or Cohan) but she's trying to redeem herself now.
Gil Alexander when compared with the others isn't all that cruel, tho he did work on the Big Daddy and little sisters
Last edited by ManicSheep; 05-03-2010 at 10:21 AM.
I wouldn't say Cohen's cruel...just eccentric...I mean,he loved art..like..alot...so much in fact that he got obsessed with it and started killing people,not to be mean,but to turn them into art and add them to his collection...and he did what he did to his colleges(spelling?) because for whatever reason,he felt they betrayed him so he locked them up in Posiden's Plaza and decided to get Jack to help him turn them into more ''art'' to add them to his ''collection'' as well..I suppose you could call him cruel for locking them up...but since he felt betrayed by them,he had his own reason to do so
So...this is not cruel? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_eolEnPACc
He killed people in cruel ways (not just the other artist who disappointed him, all the plaster people around the place too) for his own amusement. Even before he went insane it doesn’t sound like he was a nice person.
He couldn't stand anyone getting more attention than him or not liking his art and he was little more than a mouth piece for Ryan’s propaganda. That and he was cruel to some of the other artists he didn’t like just look how he reacted to Anna Culpepper http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Musical_Insult
"break the puppys neck" "GET AWAY YOU FILTHY LITTLE ****" "LITTLE BRATS!!"
check and mate...............
Suchong. THAT MONSTER!
Tenenbaum is cold, heartless, and pure evil!
Fontaine wasn't cruel, just selfish.
Yi Suchong is potentially cruel, but he didn't ever act out of malice... just simple disregard for human decency.
You could make a convincing case for Cohen being cruel.
Andrew Ryan wasn't cruel inasmuch as heartless. I don't think he enjoyed seeing others suffer.
Sofia Lamb was cruel whether she wanted to be or not. As a psychologist she is probably aware of the mental damage killing a little girl's father can inflict - and she did it anyway. She is either cruel, or clueless - and Lamb is anything but clueless.
Stanley Poole is too pathetic to be cruel. He's only cruel as far as the foodchain allows him to be.
Tenenbaum isn't cruel. At first she was impassive, and later she became quite compassionate.
Gil Alexander is not cruel. Alex the Great may be, however, as it is that insane people are often the cruelest of us all.
I agree - most of them are more indifferent than actively cruel.
like I said,Cohen thought Fitzpatrick and the others betrayed him,so that was his reason for doing to them what he did,he wasn't just doing it to be cruel,he did to get revenge for them betraying him(at least he thoguht they did),and for the people he made into statues,...he was an artist and he just got too over his head in his own obsession..and with Anna,sure he didn't like her and they fueded...but he wasn't one the who had Anna killed...Ryan had Anna killed because she made ''a song or two that got under Ryan's wig'' so yea...Cohen was eccentric or crazy,but not flat-out cruel
I'm wondering: did 'Atlas' do the slow hand clapping while he said that?
That was the greatest moment, when I thought, "Wait, that doesn't ... sound...... right......."
None of these.
Dr. Steinman isn't an option.....
Dr Steinman wasn't cruel,just crazy and lost his mind from ADAMNone of these.
Dr. Steinman isn't an option.....
Dr. Steinman was.....
tenenbaum was just as cruel as albert einstien. using the science and technology she created those children were robbed the chance at life and made into monsters. she was cruel in a sense. not as cruel as fontaine. he didnt care who he stepped on to get to the top.
cohen and stienman arnt cruel just BATSH*T INSANE!!!!! theres a difference
You know, people who are insane can still be cruel. With the "artistry" that Steinman liked to create with his scalpel, I can't imagine anyone in Rapture being as deranged and cruel as him.
That's my two cents.
but with that logic,you'd have to say the Big Daddies,the Alpha Series more specifically,are cruel for killing people,because they too are insane...
well you can say thier cruel but for the most part insena people dont know better. they dont think there cruel or deranged. they thought they were making art. the others knowingly commited crimes, killed, and experamented with things that is gennerally cruel in my book
Fontaine was a gangster, he ruined things financially!
For a moral turd you can't beat that little git Stanley Poole, an innocent young girl made into a little sister, innocent men into protectors, thousands drowned just to save his own worthless hyde from getting knabbed by Sophia!!!!
Stanley Poole (although i've spared him 3/4 times) i hate him!!!!!
I vote Suchong. The puppy killing audio diary made me cringe.
Yi Suchong,that yellow bastard.
i accidentally voted for gil! i wanted to vote for dr. suchong!
Last edited by venom11; 05-04-2010 at 02:31 AM.
none of the above-the slugs are the cruelest souls in rapture. if they were non existent the citizens of rapture wouldnt be where they are now!
alittle obscure but oh well!
Im going to say Ryan just because of his "Trophy Wall."
Excuse me...?
I don't think insanity has any bearing on cruelty, nor do I think Steinman and Cohen were completely divorced from reality. They were divorced from restriction and therefore were allowed whatever they wanted- there was no outside definition for morality and each chose to "follow their bliss" which was just selfishness. Of these the worst is Suchong; I think he knew exactly what he was doing and took pride and pleasure in it.tenenbaum was just as cruel as albert einstien. using the science and technology she created those children were robbed the chance at life and made into monsters. she was cruel in a sense. not as cruel as fontaine. he didnt care who he stepped on to get to the top.
cohen and stienman arnt cruel just BATSH*T INSANE!!!!! theres a difference
suchong was lead designer of the protector program and KILLED A PUPPY!!!
No, they're two different animals. Big Daddies kill to protect their little sister. Steinman killed and mutilated because he wanted to. Not really the same. While both may be insane, there is a different motive for and expression of their violence.
I said Stanley. He was a pretty effed-up dude. Fontaine was just power hungry, Poole showed an advanced level of ambivalence...
I would say Dr.Steinman who was forcing his image onto unsuspecting people. Deforming people against their will...
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