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    Bioshock 2 Rapture Metro Map Pack

    BioShock 2 Rapture Metro Map Pack DLC Coming Next Week
    Written Tuesday, April 20, 2010 by Dan Webb


    According to an e-mail that's been doing the rounds this afternoon from Microsoft, BioShock 2 will be receiving a batch of DLC next week. April 29th to be precise.
    The DLC, called the Rapture Metro Map Pack, will feature six new multiplayer maps, a new "Rebirth" feature, two new multiplayer masks, a bonus "Kill 'Em Kindly melee mode" and three new achievements. If that's not enough, the DLC will also raise the multiplayer rank to 50.
    The Rapture Metro DLC will be available on April 29th for 800 Microsoft points
    I just found this on www.xbox360achievements.org
    Is this true and also shouldn't the rank be level 60 not 50?
    DLC Added: Bioshock 2Written Friday, April 23, 2010 by olsen77

    *Rapture awaits...again.* The trophies for the upcoming "Rapture Metro Pack" have been added to PSN.* There are three trophies in all for the new DLC that comes with six new multiplayer maps, a higher level cap of 50 (didn't they already raise the level cap to 50...why is that in the press release again? Maybe they meant 60 and made a typo? *shrugs*), new masks, and two new game modes, "Kill 'em Kindly" melee mode and the mysterious "Rebirth" mode (although, it sounds a lot like the New Game+ mode that came with the DLC for the first Bioshock).* The current rumors are that the maps will be based on several Bioshock 2 levels (Pauper's Drop, Siren Alley, & Dionysus Park) along with other locations from the first Bioshock.* Take that with a grain of salt though until it's confirmed by 2K.* It'll be available on April 29 on PSN for $9.99 USD. *
    Thanks to Winckle (along with Smoove187 and DominicricanKid) for the info.*

    Trophies/Achievements

    Aqua Incognita - Play at least one non-private match on each
    DLC map.

    Territorial - Win a non-private match in each of the 6 new maps

    Reincarnation - Use rebirth to start again
    Thanks to Relight for this possible info on the masks and maps. -Kyburz

    Masks: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66102

    Maps: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67576
    Last edited by AK Downfall; 04-24-2010 at 03:38 AM.

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    Wow! That sounds like fun.

    ~Mari.

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    Yes and nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooo.good more maps but bad i used up my points!

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    Hmm, 360achievementsorg is surprisingly on top of their stuff typically. So I wouldn't consider this entirely bogus at all.

    However, another DLC release may not go over too smooth if a large portion of people are still unable to even play the game.

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    Rank 50? 'Kill 'em kindly mode'? Rebirth? I suspect this to be fake besides, the old DLC was out a few weeks ago and there has been no patch as of yet.

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    This seems to be legit! Major Nelson is talking about it too.
    http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/n...metro-dlc.html

    Wow, 6 maps for ten bucks? That is awesome. Usually it is only 3 maps for ten bucks.

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    I wonder if the rank 50 is a typo or something cause i dont want to get rank 50 again.

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    When 2k said they had some agressive DLC planned, they weren't kidding!

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    Darn, was hoping for some single player dlc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeful View Post
    Darn, was hoping for some single player dlc
    dude, same here!

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    I officially retract all further support from 2k Games from me if this is true, we dont want DLC at this present time, we want a patch to fix the issues with our games, not some crummy DLC that 99% will most likely already be on the disc.

    Seriously, I thought 2k were better than this. Looks like I was wrong.

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    awesome price for this if it's legit. I really hope the new achievements are not MP ones, although they probably will be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyburz View Post
    This seems to be legit! Major Nelson is talking about it too.
    http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/n...metro-dlc.html

    Wow, 6 maps for ten bucks? That is awesome. Usually it is only 3 maps for ten bucks.
    Well. It's not as good as Uncharted 2's DLC pricing but not as bad at Modern Warfare 2's DLC pricing. Still though, Uncharted 2 actually works so I'll be getting the DLC that releases this week!

    If a patch is released alongside the DLC then I can see why they held the patch back this long, if not...well...
    Last edited by Mr.Big_Daddy; 04-20-2010 at 02:28 AM.

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    Yeah awesome!! More dlc for a game that doesn't work properly!!! And only for 10 bucks!?!?!? What a totally resonable price! They're kind enough to give us 6 maps for the same price most companies charge for 3!?!?!?! Wow, thanks 2k!!! I'll be sure to buy and support every dlc 2k puts out for B2!! Oh wait, the mp still constantly freezes and it has worse lag than any other current gen game?? Even worse than Gears 2 before it was patched!?!??! Yeah, scratch all that.

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    Well, I guess the Rebirth thing that Relight was talking about is coming out after all.

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    is this going to be on PSN? i want that dlc! i'm saving for psn card so i can buy 1st dlc

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    i quit on multi shortly after the first DLC came out unless this has some totally amazing new game mode i think i'll pass and wait on the SP DLC

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    Until I hear confirmation from 2k I'm not buying this news. They know that the game needs a patch and in their never ending efforts to patch it the worse thing you could do is announce/release another DLC pack with game breaking issues still present.

    But hey, this is 2k, the publisher who grants platform exclusive FPS's after getting 1/3 of their customers excited with an ARG, you never know what they are thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rybow73 View Post
    Well, I guess the Rebirth thing that Relight was talking about is coming out after all.
    Yup, this certainly sounds like completely legit DLC.

    Masks: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66102

    Maps: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67576

    (Why we don't hear about these things on CoR first anymore, I don't know.)

    I'm pretty happy about this. Looking forward to playing Multiplayer again... I was getting really bored of the current maps.

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    What if the patch was released at the same time? 2k wouldn't make the same mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Downfall View Post
    I just found this on www.xbox360achievements.org
    Is this true and also shouldn't the rank be level 60 not 50?
    Ahh nice find! Its a buy!! /Johan

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    Kill 'Em Kindly melee mode
    Ha!

    I was wondering about that.

    I seem to remember seeing that in the game files, but couldn't identify it.

    I have no proof at the moment because I'm at work, but I'll post it later.

    (I keep telling myself I should have a copy of all the BioShock resource files handy for when I'm browsing the forums while at work.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relight View Post
    Yup, this certainly sounds like completely legit DLC.

    Masks: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66102

    Maps: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67576

    (Why we don't hear about these things on CoR first anymore, I don't know.)

    I'm pretty happy about this. Looking forward to playing Multiplayer again... I was getting really bored of the current maps.
    Somebody said you spoke of this Rebirth before..? any idea what it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Somebody said you spoke of this Rebirth before..? any idea what it is?
    I would also like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shades View Post
    What if the patch was released at the same time? 2k wouldn't make the same mistake.
    I'm thinking that could be the case. Like someone said earlier, it would be a good reason of why they were tight-lipped about the release and details...kind of.

    It might be the saving they need by releasing the patch with the DLC.

    However, for the people that don't want the DLC, hopefully they release a patch for them too, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Somebody said you spoke of this Rebirth before..? any idea what it is?
    Yeah, look at that link I posted for "Masks."

    It has to do with golden variations of the Rabbit mask and the Bucket mask.

    The possibility I thought of is that if you use the Resurrection tonic while wearing one of those masks, your mask will change to gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rybow73 View Post
    I'm thinking that could be the case. Like someone said earlier, it would be a good reason of why they were tight-lipped about the release and details...kind of.
    Yeah, because they still have to deliver the actual maps to the players, and they need to avoid splitting the player base.

    So... they deliver the maps with the patch (since the maps themselves were not included on the disc), and then the "DLC" is another unlock.

    When we were all saying "just deliver the content via a patch rather than put it on the disc so as not to split the player base," I don't think Liz ever spoke to that exact scenario. Because if that's exactly what they're doing here, then there isn't a good reason that they couldn't have done that for the first "DLC."

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    ...Have you ever thought 2k may be pulling our legs with this DLC? It's only just popped up and there has been very little detail concerning it, perhaps 2k is trying to make us think it's DLC, when in reality it's going to be a patch instead? If that were the case though, I'd be quite dissapointed, we need more maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shades View Post
    ...Have you ever thought 2k may be pulling our legs with this DLC?
    Well, now that April Fools is over...

    I'm sure it's legit. I'd say keep watching the Cult, now that the news has possibly leaked (Microsoft email?), I'm sure Liz will get it up onto CoR soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Somebody said you spoke of this Rebirth before..? any idea what it is?
    Could that actually be the name of a patch? /Johan

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    Meh

    If they release a patch for the 360 then I'll consider buying it, if not, who gives a ****. Gold masks, whoopie ding. More maps, just means more places to freeze in...whoopie ding. Red Dead Redemption is coming out and BS2 will be shelved regardless at that point. This is basically going to determine if I play this up until May 18th at all or just keep it shelved like it has been for over a week.

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    So does this mean anyone that doesn't buy the DLC will be separated since not all of the map parts are on the disc? Why would anyone want to buy something that alienates 90% of the players? 2K said that their set-up couldn't update files that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Mr B View Post
    Could that actually be the name of a patch? /Johan
    Nope, it's called a "feature" in the first post, and this is what I think it is:

    There are two masks in the game files, they are golden variations of the Rabbit mask and the Bucket mask. The model file names are "Rebirth" and the texture file names are "DLC."

    Check out the golden masks here:

    http://www.rapturearchives.com/museum-masks.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relight View Post
    Yeah, because they still have to deliver the actual maps to the players, and they need to avoid splitting the player base.

    So... they deliver the maps with the patch (since the maps themselves were not included on the disc), and then the "DLC" is another unlock.

    When we were all saying "just deliver the content via a patch rather than put it on the disc so as not to split the player base," I don't think Liz ever spoke to that exact scenario. Because if that's exactly what they're doing here, then there isn't a good reason that they couldn't have done that for the first "DLC."
    They specifically said it would be impossible to put files like that through an update or free DLC route. How many lies is this company going to be caught in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtues View Post
    So does this mean anyone that doesn't buy the DLC will be separated since not all of the map parts are on the disc? Why would anyone want to buy something that alienates 90% of the players? 2K said that their set-up couldn't update files that way.
    They'll have to update everyone via a patch, so that the player base isn't split, regardless of what Liz may have previously said. It's the only way that makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Virtues View Post
    They specifically said it would be impossible to put files like that through an update or free DLC route. How many lies is this company going to be caught in?
    Yeah, that's what I seemed to remember. I'll have to look it up, I'd rather see the exact statement before discussing what was apparently said.
    Last edited by Relight; 04-20-2010 at 03:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by october_midnight View Post
    If they release a patch for the 360 then I'll consider buying it, if not, who gives a ****. Gold masks, whoopie ding. More maps, just means more places to freeze in...whoopie ding. Red Dead Redemption is coming out and BS2 will be shelved regardless at that point. This is basically going to determine if I play this up until May 18th at all or just keep it shelved like it has been for over a week.
    Exactly, as far as I am concerned the masks are just gimmicks made to pad out the DLC list, seriously you cant see your mask while playing so what's the point?

    Anyway, I expect the sales of this DLC while un patched to be very, very low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by venom11 View Post
    is this going to be on PSN? i want that dlc! i'm saving for psn card so i can buy 1st dlc
    Yes it will be (if true).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtues View Post
    They specifically said it would be impossible to put files like that through an update or free DLC route. How many lies is this company going to be caught in?
    It's probably on the disc as well

    Seriously, 2k sucks such major ass.

    It has to be on the disc, otherwise they'll totally contradict their last statement about the other dlc about "not wanting to split the player base". If they allow this to be downloaded, then release a patch so that everyone can still play. It would totally contradict their earlier excuse for having the first dlc on the disc.

    It's probably on the disc again. Either way they've totally screwed themselves because if it is on the disc then it should have been included the dlc that came out a month ago, if its not on the disc then the original dlc should never have been on the disc and they made up an excuse that was a lie.

    I really can't believe people are even considering buying this. I'm a level 50, I made the mistake of buying the last dlc hoping that they'd patch it soon. I am totally burnt out on all the lagging and freezing in the mp, I quit playing a while ago. I just played the game today for the first time in a long time (to see maybe if I'd notice if the lag was bad), it's so damn laggy and glitchy that it really isn't worth my time, go play gears 2 or md 2 online then come back to Bioshock 2. It makes B2 seem even worse, the lag is atrocious. Sorry to be rude, but you guys are seriously crazy if your going to pay more money for mp dlc without it being fixed.
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    "Patches are not really meant for giving out DLC-esque content. They are patches. And new content essentially creates a new version of the game, which brings for the technical difficulties in regard to connectivity with pre-DLC versions of the game which I've talked about already. (If that makes sense.)" -- 2K Elizabeth --

    There's one quote, I'm trying to find the Dev meeting that took place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtues View Post
    They specifically said it would be impossible to put files like that through an update or free DLC route. How many lies is this company going to be caught in?
    This is, I believe, the closest to a definitive statement made by 2K, in which Elizabeth gets information from Alyssa (Executive Producer at 2K Marin) and Melissa (Senior Producer at 2K Marin).

    Note the use of the word "generally" (bolded in the quote below) and, as the statement continues (I didn't quote the entire thing), note that they specifically address the first "DLC" only.

    While it's dodgy, I don't believe 2K ever made a statement that would absolutely preclude game content being delivered in a patch in this instance.

    As I already mentioned, they could have been much more transparent about this in the first place, but regardless, I think that's how it stands.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2K Elizabeth View Post
    Some other games have a centralized backend server that allows them to send data to users that can then be accessed by the game on disk. This system would allow automatic updates to game content to keep it up to date with the latest developed downloadable content. In our case, we do not have that mechanism in place. The only way we have of delivering new code or content to the user is via title updates or patches, and via downloadable content. Due to restrictions on how patching works (both size and content restrictions), we generally can only update code, not content, in titles updates or patches that are “pushed” automatically to everyone.

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