Don't fret, dear domino, Cody actually credited you when he pasted your here. Maybe you missed itOriginally Posted by domino29
Codyfoo!
SO: Just so people know, that isn't Codyfoo's list. I made that in another thread. Just making sure Codyfoo doesnt get ALL of the credit
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Nice updates on your list though, good work!And also domino's excellent list from the same "other" thread. Some items are a much better statement of my thoughts on the matter.
I know!
But it sounded like you were crediting him for it, and I just wanted to clarify.
Sorry bout that
Well I dont know if anyone else has tried this but in the new kill 'em kindly game my perfect tonic combination is slugger, fast feet, and leg up. Charge up your melee and when you see someone jump over them run towards there back and kill them. It usually works if they dont turn around right away. I have gotten number 1 because of this combo many times.
Then that's my fault if it appeared that way and I apologizeI know!
But it sounded like you were crediting him for it, and I just wanted to clarify.
Sorry bout that
I don't see any of those. I am level 24. I take it I get those later?
yeah. 2 melee in KEK should give you a kill though.
I know it's my own thread and all but can someone please sticky this? It's a pain having to search through the pages to find it and I'd think it'd be more helpful to newcomers if it were on the first page.
And it actually isn't my thread, the community has made it what it is and there's a lot of gems within the pages of this thread and if it were stickied, I'd bet there'd be a lot more.
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It's not arrogance when you're this good!
Curse you Althea! All of a sudden people are doing this and I am their victim!
Does anyone know where the red oxygen looking tanks are in "Home for the Poor"? You may recognize them from SP, you can shoot them and they expel gas that is lit on fire.
I only ask because in the MP videos released by 2K and in the intro video in game, it shows someone picking one of these up and killing a couple people.
Maybe it was removed, but maybe I just never see it because nade spammers ruin OSK barrels and such.There are usually barrels right where everyone spawns to make things interesting, and it seems logical that there would be one of these in the doctor's office (as shown in the video) since you spawn there in Civil War.
Last edited by Virtues; 06-11-2010 at 12:52 AM.
All red oxygen tanks were removed from the game, and I'm pretty sure they were what the red barrels replaced.Does anyone know where the red oxygen looking tanks are in "Home for the Poor"? You may recognize them from SP, you can shoot them and they expel gas that is lit on fire.
I only ask because in the MP videos released by 2K and in the intro video in game, it shows someone picking one of these up and killing a couple people.
Maybe it was removed, but maybe I just never see it because nade spammers ruin OSK barrels and such.
That would make sense but that same video shows red barrels too.
Glad to know I'm not just missing them though.
This is a great thread, thanks!
Gonna repost an updated list from a while ago. Back from a coupla pages, but try not to clear any content
Tips:
1) Always look around. If you are walking to a stairway and you see nobody in front of you, look left right, and also maybe backwards. Enemies are everywhere. Be sure to look in subtle nooks and crannies for campers too.
2)Note what kind of moves you do, and pick Plasmids to support those moves. You like to wait in corners? Use Geyser Trap at the rooms entrance to cut a big chunk out of their health. If you like WB cuz its easier to flank enemies, perhaps EB works good too.
3) Note enemies. They also will be using Plasmids. Look out for Geyser Traps, Proximity Mines, flaming corpses, an electrobolt user, or burning oil slicks. These are effective traps and killers.
4) Note the skulls on a map. If one appears nearby, most likely the enemy will be fleeing. Get ready to move in, or peak in and assess the situation.
5) Not very good. Even Level 21's can use the Buddy System. Two guns are better than one. Send enemies into death as soon as you see them with a barrage of bullets.
6) Pick the right guns for the right people. If you like to get close up, then the Shotgun is right for you. Like to sneak around. Perhaps the Nailgun! Upgrades wrok the same way. Find that your Shotgun isn't fast enough? Equip Rapid-Fire, and deal with them quicker. Also note that if your gun isnt fast enough, perhaps damage is actually the issue. Try damage upgrades to speed up the killing.
7) Secondary weapons are good as well. If you run out of ammo, switch to secondary, rather than reload woth your primary. Pick a good close-range weapon that deals mega-damage, like the Sawn-Off Shotgun.
8) Now for when you're losing, if an enemy is sniping Grenades at you, take cover or run for it. Same if you are being shot at. Run around a corner, or turn around quickly. Remember, you don't have a lot of health. However, if you are confident, try turning around and facing them. This works well with Plasmids like IS or TK
9) Find a spot where you got a few nice kills? Return there and become a camper. This is especially useful for no-team matches like Kill em' Kindly or Survival of the Fittest.
10) (THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT, COUNTLESS PEOPLE IGNORE IT!!!! GRRR) When you are alone and at a Vending Machine, don't just pick up it's spoils and leave. Hack it, that way it becomes friendly to your team. Same goes for turrets. They are indespensible during crucial moments.
11) Big Daddy tips now.
-Frontal assault is BAD!
-Sneak behind and keep around the back of him
-Stay out of his sight. As long as you are behind him, he can't shoot you, leaving you to heap on the damage.
-If you stay behind him, use Winter Blast or Electrobolt to halt/ slow him down
-You don't have a lot of time, screw reloading, and go for secondary immediatly.
-Winter Blast makes it much easier to slow him down and aim for his ass.
-IS also works well. If the Daddy tries to swat the flies away, thats the time to get behind him
-Nailgun is a Daddy killer, especially when used with IS
12) Being a Big Daddy
-Keep as close look at your arse, it is very vulnerable
- Don't worry about your front, thats the easy kills
-The Rivet Gun is very long distance, use it to snipe enemies out from afar
-Proximity Mines are useful for cutting off narrow choke-points. This is especially useful for CtS
-Mines can also be used like Grenades, throw one at a difficult or squirmy enemy to finish them off
You only have 6 Mines, use them carefully
-The Rivet Gun is not invincible. It is still a Single Shot weapon, not a BFG
-You are not invincible. Your health bar may be more resiliant, but it can still be drained fairly quickly
-You know you're going to die soon but have 4 Mines left, put them to good use before you go belly-up
-Protect your teammates, they are vital to the game. Just cuz you are a Daddy doesnt mean you're going to win
-Know when to back out. If there are 3 enemies all Nailgunning you, try and get one singled out and take him.
-If you are cornered or ambushed, Stomp puts all enemies into a stun, thus making ambushes easier to deal with
13) If you are hacking and you are being shot at, chances are you're already dead. Finish the hack for some last minute vengence (This is better for Speedy Hacker or Winterized Bots. It may be better to stop the Hack if you are early into it or have no Hacking bonuses)
14) ADAM Vials are everywhere. In some places, there are hidden cashes. Find these to increase your ADAM intake by a lot.
15) Remember, Hacking, killing, and capturung Sisters, all get you ADAM too
16) If you don't have good aim, you will flow through ammo quickly. Try using the Clip Extenders to increase your chances of hitting your enemy
17) Use the environment. Telekinesis randomly generates items, but usually, they're small. Using in-world items that are bigger have better chances of hitting, and keep an eye out for Red Barrels. These brutes are One Shot Kills and are good for anti-buddy system tools. Also, if you see a Big Daddy Proximity Mine, you can use it as a make-shift Red Barrel.
18) Insect Swarm is a ***** to deal with. It momentarily blurs your vision and deals miniscule damage, but enough to kill you if you are heavily damaged. Melee kills the Bees, but it takes 3 hits, and the enemy will be shooting at you. A good counter for Insect Swarm, is Insect Swarm. If you get swarmed, try swarming them. Since you were hit first, you can melee out faster and get the kill
19) If you're playing high levels, chances are that someone has Resurrection. This will resurect the enemy one time. While resurecting, one shot will kill them, and they CAN shoot.
20) Use your manners. Use these tips to not go onto the Cheats and Spammers page:
-Use the Grenade Launcher strategecly. Randomly shooting Grenades is very unpopular and often dangerous
-Insect Swarm is good, but too much is terrible. Keep using IS, and the opponent cant melee it away, making yourself too overpowered
-No teabagging. If you teabag and die of Death Trap I WILL laugh my ass off
-This ones obvious, dont hack the game. This is especially true for PC
-Dont rage-quit (Rage Quit [Ray-je-kw-it]: The act of leaving a match and or game becasue the leaving player was too angry to continue)
-Its okay to leave a match if you see a player that cheats or is unmannerly (Cola6969), but dont go overboard if you see better players then you and immediatly quit.
21) Watch out for Death Traps. These are often good killers when Death Trap is first acheived. If a corpse smokes, its going to blow. This can be really deadly while fighting other enemies, cuz corpses often go ignored. If you headshot, then there is no need to research, thus eliminating the need to be near corpses.
22) Incinerate spEeds up enemies and increases Firing Rate. So if an enemy has a Little Sister, Incinerate may not be the best Plasmid to use.
23)
Strategy
These are things I've tried, and I recomend for Plasmids and other tools.
1) Winter Blast slows down aiming, moving, and increases damage from your weapons. It also speeds up Hacking and stops sabatoged Vending Machines. Whenever you see some anything unfriendly (Turret, enemy, or Vendor) immediatly Blast it to stop it. Of course, frozen corpses explode, leaving nothing to researchm, but also eliminating Death Traps and Resurections.
2) Use these three Tonics, always: EVE Saver, and Expert Researcher, if you use Machine Gun or Shotgun. These are highly recomended and popular Plasmids. Speedy Recovery is good for earlier levels, but as you level up, will deminish in use. Fast Feet is good for Flanking, ambushing, and Kill em Kindly
3) When using the Machine Gun, the Rapid-Fire upgrade pumps more lead out in less time, making it very valuble, especially to frozen enemies
4) Geyser Trap is useful for cutting off choke-points, or creating a safe-spot while reloading. It also gets you up to great sniper positions quickly. If electrofied, will kill in one shot if the enemy hits the ceiling.
5) Aero Dash get you out REALLY quickly while playing CtS
6) The Elepahant Gun is a good sniper tool, quicker Shotgun, and all around good tool, but only comes with 2 shots before you must reload. Either equip a scope for Sniping, or the barrel extender for 4 rounds (same as Shotgun). Damage Upgrade also kills enemies with Body Shots in 2 shots
7) Early bird gets the worm. Once you get those ADAM vials and Hack those machines first, the enemy will quickly be at a disadvantage. Try acting as a support at the beginning of a battle, rather than running straight into combat.
8) Look for the Big Daddy suit when it appears. You never know where it will be. It is very valuable
9) Insect Swarm blurs the enemies screen, making a good tool for ambushing and flanking, especially when used with Fast Feet.
That's everything I can think of at the moment. Oh, and a general tips too:
-Don't get discouraged, this makes your game worse
-Try to be positive
-If your deaths and kills even out, it's all good
-It doesnt matter if you win or lose
-If the game gets too difficult, try different types of loadouts
-Never resort to Spamming
-Dont send messages to random players unless its out of respect
-Have Fun DAMMIT!!!!
Last edited by domino29; 06-11-2010 at 04:34 AM.
Vending Machines have no items? easy! hack them and it will drop items apon completion!
Farmer's market- Theres camping spots above the fish market (near ceiling) and the silver wing apiary (even has an adam vial (near ceiling)) requires legup or geyser trap. anyone with 360 can send me a message and ill show you GT=coffee009
In Olympus heights you can be at the top of the elevator ring thing use leg up or geyser
My deaths and kills have never evened out, I always die more. Typical match of Civil War, I might get 6 kills, 9 deaths.-Don't get discouraged, this makes your game worse
-Try to be positive
-If your deaths and kills even out, it's all good
-It doesnt matter if you win or lose
-If the game gets too difficult, try different types of loadouts
-Never resort to Spamming
-Dont send messages to random players unless its out of respect
-Have Fun DAMMIT!!!!
I could certainly decrease those deaths, by being much more cautious in one way or another, but then I'd end up with 3 kills per match.
If you can get behind an opponent hacked vendoing machine, it can be hacked for yourself without discharging the opponent's bomb.
I dont have DLC, but I think the only vending machine you can get behind is the one in the Hespheatus Vent room that also has the platform that can be jumped up to. If the light is red, just run around it, on your right, behind it, and then hack.
I saw somebody hacking THROUGH a wall yesterday
TK USERS!! UNITE AGAINST WINTER BLAST AND FIRE!
Pick up a random object with TK when frozen/burning... it will turn into that plasmid!
Yeah thats one of the cool things about TK,TK allows you to not only stun them but afflict your opponent with what they hit you with.So if you're on fire,anything you pick up while on fire will catch fire too! And if you get frozen anything you throw while frozen will freeze your enemies.
I'm not positive about this, but a charged eb can neutralize a turret. I think.
Really? Do you mean like permanently neutralize it or just for a couple seconds?
Well I had a charged eb, threw at turret and after killing someone like 15-20 seconds later the turret was acting like it hadn't ever been hacked. All shiny and the neutral light.
Did they ragequit after you killed them? That would explain it if it was them who had it hacked
No..I don't think so. It was the beginning of the match.
Never knew that, I guess it does stay permanent if it didn't do anything afterwards. Usually after a couple of seconds they lift back up.
I just tried it, it didn't seem to work D:
Darn. I'll try it too.
It would be cool of it works.
If it really does work that'll be one one of the best things ever seeing that turrents are right under nailguns on my pet peeve list.
Ok I tried it a few more times and no luck. Darn.
Maybe it wad just a glitch.
If only bees could be treated as that too! I could see major revenge!Yeah thats one of the cool things about TK,TK allows you to not only stun them but afflict your opponent with what they hit you with.So if you're on fire,anything you pick up while on fire will catch fire too! And if you get frozen anything you throw while frozen will freeze your enemies.
Sadly no... but a Geyset Trap will stun a turret for a longer time
The person who hacked it must have left without you noticing, that's the only thing that would explain it since EB'ing it doesnt work
Haven't seen this one posted, although in this massive thread it could very well have been mentioned:
When approaching an enemy hacked vending mcahine, equip TK. Once equipped, get close enough to the machine for it to drop the grenade, use TK to pick up the grenade before it explodes and hurl it at an enemy like you would a red barrel. Then go back and hack the VM for your team.
Also, take a look at the various trials, they are an good indication of things you can do with plasmid and weapon combos.
A charged EB can turn off the turret for like 10 secs,whereas a quick EB bolt will just give you like 2 secs.It won't turn it off permanently though.
It must have been what JFM13 said lol since it was much longer than 10seconds.
Thanks though.
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Wow that's a great list for people who just picked up the game
2.) The effects of Insect swarm can be cancelled by hitting the melee button 3 or 4 times.
It's generally 2 hits for me, but nonetheless it's good to know that you can do that.
look at frosty go....
Glad you brought this up again, always new people joining the forums in need of help.
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