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    What about the original Rapture?

    If this has been posted before, please let me know and I'll reply to that post. Otherwise...

    What about a game featuring the original Rapture before Bioshock 1? For fans like me, it's not enough to just read about Rapture in its prime - what about a game that brings us there and lets us experience it, before everything got out of control and the city started to fall apart? Maybe it would be like the Sims underwater, but is that such a bad thing? Yes, I've seen it written that multiplayer in B2 is for that, but that's not enough. I want to be able to travel Rapture and be a part of the city when it was still full of promise...anyone else?

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    I feel the 3rd should focus on it's prime and it's fall. You start the game say on New Years 1959 and then everything goes to hell...that'd be awesome being on the brink and actually playing through it rather than hearing about it and seeing the outcome.

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    Maybe it could start a bit before New Years...just enough to really see the city. Or maybe it could give you the option to extend New Years as long as you want before entering night time, kind of like the beginning of Fable 2 when you're a kid for a day.

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    Ever since the first one I've always wanted to see what Rapture looked like, BEFORE New Year's. I was even kinda disappointed when I heard BioShock 2's gonna be a sequel. I think it would be awesome (AWESOMER than awesome) if we got a way to explore Rapture before it came apart *.

    * - inb4 there's a multiplayer for that - the levels were retooled so that they can be used in a multiplayer environment, meaning:
    a) they had worse graphics;
    b) most of the maps are different from their BioShock 1 counterparts;
    c) you can't simply explore them, without the constant thread of being killed by someone.

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    EXACTLY! I agree 100%. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I wonder if anyone at 2K agrees with us?

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    i kinda wish they left out multiplayer and made that the 3rd bioshock
    i think id be exceedingly (sorry cant spell ) if you were there during the first splicer outbreak, the one on new years eve 1959, and were struggling to survive, many you could even band with some other people who were spliced up yet directly and fight the splicers in a struggle to escape rapture

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    but the subject of the fall is being covered in the multiplayer, its all happening on new years eve or the following days. aside from that jack shows up really soon after the fall, it's only months afterwards so theres not too much time for a whole game...

    on that regard, who would the main character be? all that's happening is everyone's killing eachother, atlas is gaining power, fontaine is "dealt with", ryan is holed up in his office and tenenbaum is feeling like crap cuz of the little sisters.

    but yea although i like the idea, i think there's still way too much of rapture left to explore. only hoping that it will be more actual exploring and not as much "linear-pathway-you-must-go-here" type of levels...
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    ...Bioshock 3 should have 2 seperate campains. One that takes place after Bioshock 2 and the other as a prequel so everyone is happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK Downfall View Post
    ...Bioshock 3 should have 2 seperate campains. One that takes place after Bioshock 2 and the other as a prequel so everyone is happy
    this and so much more

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    Ya, Rapture in it's golden days. I get shivers when I imagine what Dyonasus Park looked like when it was normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakyoom View Post
    this and so much more
    ...let me guess you want another multiplayer and possibly a horde mode.

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    i would love to see disonsis park (don't know if i spelled that right )before it got flooded just some of the stuff in the art book make it look amazing if they do make a prequel they will have to add that in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakyoom View Post
    but the subject of the fall is being covered in the multiplayer, its all happening on new years eve or the following days. aside from that jack shows up really soon after the fall, it's only months afterwards so theres not too much time for a whole game...

    on that regard, who would the main character be? all that's happening is everyone's killing eachother, atlas is gaining power, fontaine is "dealt with", ryan is holed up in his office and tenenbaum is feeling like crap cuz of the little sisters.

    but yea although i like the idea, i think there's still way too much of rapture left to explore. only hoping that it will be more actual exploring and not as much "linear-pathway-you-must-go-here" type of levels...
    No this takes place well into the fall of rapture. The prime of rapture would have ended well before the conflict of Atlas & Ryan started

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    Quote Originally Posted by sophia in the nude View Post
    No this takes place well into the fall of rapture. The prime of rapture would have ended well before the conflict of Atlas & Ryan started
    what takes place well into the fall of rapture? the multiplayer is at the fall of rapture, which does take place on new years eve; countless audio diaries have stated that fact. The prime is a weird term, are you talking about when everything was gravy and people just lived their lives? or when they discovered adam and started splicing for the first time before they went ape-sh%t over ADAM addiction? or the fall that's taking place in the current multiplayer, the civil war? there's 10 years of prime to choose from i suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakyoom View Post
    what takes place well into the fall of rapture? the multiplayer is at the fall of rapture, which does take place on new years eve; countless audio diaries have stated that fact. The prime is a weird term, are you talking about when everything was gravy and people just lived their lives? or when they discovered adam and started splicing for the first time before they went ape-sh%t over ADAM addiction? or the fall that's taking place in the current multiplayer, the civil war? there's 10 years of prime to choose from i suppose
    Prime as in before the conflict(civil war) started and rapture functioned as a city.

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    you know...I don't understand why people want a game with pre-war Rapture...I mean,there are a couple things wrong with that

    1. Bioshock 2's multiplayer has it's own story while it happens during the Rapture civil war

    and 2. what the HEY would you even do?? You can't exactly say there would be alot to do in a pre-war Rapture...when ADAM got discovered it was still new and people weren't going so crazy over it yet so people weren't jumping all over Big Daddies and Little Sisters yet,so you wouldn't have to save anyone or anything,and no one was ''evil'' yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Addict L View Post
    you know...I don't understand why people want a game with pre-war Rapture...I mean,there are a couple things wrong with that

    1. Bioshock 2's multiplayer has it's own story while it happens during the Rapture civil war

    and 2. what the HEY would you even do?? You can't exactly say there would be alot to do in a pre-war Rapture...when ADAM got discovered it was still new and people weren't going so crazy over it yet so people weren't jumping all over Big Daddies and Little Sisters yet,so you wouldn't have to save anyone or anything,and no one was ''evil'' yet

    exactly what im thinking. Who will you play as anyway. How will you spawn and everything. I would like 2k just to move on into the future and find out what happen to Tennenbuam and her plans on Rapture destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Addict L View Post
    and 2. what the HEY would you even do?? You can't exactly say there would be alot to do in a pre-war Rapture...when ADAM got discovered it was still new and people weren't going so crazy over it yet so people weren't jumping all over Big Daddies and Little Sisters yet,so you wouldn't have to save anyone or anything,and no one was ''evil'' yet
    The Sims: Rapture!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakyoom View Post
    The Sims: Rapture!

    WHERES THE LOGIC IN THAT!!!! Never trust EA with such a good series.

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    I agree on Bs3 being a prequal, but it should start some time in the mid to late forties, and you could be a new arrival or a rapture born teen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentrage View Post
    I agree on Bs3 being a prequal, but it should start some time in the mid to late forties, and you could be a new arrival or a rapture born teen
    same problem as I stated above...what would you even do??? Get jobs around Rapture or something?? not exactly the definition of fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Addict L View Post
    same problem as I stated above...what would you even do??? Get jobs around Rapture or something?? not exactly the definition of fun
    I'm pretty sure there was always a criminal underbelly of Rapture, man. I can imagine being one of the first people to get overly spliced, or being part of the early expiriments.

    The powers that be want to keep you hidden and silenced... and you want to get away. In this world of ritzy glamor where you don't belong, having to trust the shady people in the shadows, and never knowing who you can trust.

    Use your imagination... they certainly did on the first two games. Simply saying "it would never work" is sorely underestimating the dev team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas Lives View Post
    I feel the 3rd should focus on it's prime and it's fall. You start the game say on New Years 1959 and then everything goes to hell...that'd be awesome being on the brink and actually playing through it rather than hearing about it and seeing the outcome.
    I disagree. It sounds neat, but a) it's already been done, and b) there would be no sense of mystery and intrigue.

    It's only remotely interesting to someone who is a diehard BioShock fan. That's not bad, but it's not good, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Addict L View Post
    same problem as I stated above...what would you even do??? Get jobs around Rapture or something?? not exactly the definition of fun
    well I was thinking that you could go through some simple, easter egg filled training lvl that had a bit of story and maybe an alley or bar fight, or even an easy survive a big daddy attack scenario. then you could hop a few yeays or so and see an in depth look at the declining state of rapture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatrox View Post
    c) you can't simply explore them, without the constant thread of being killed by someone.
    By starting a private match with myself and exploring the multiplayer maps, I've found some cool stuff that I never noticed at all before!

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    how about this?

    How about you play the part of a detective during the prime of Rapture that gets a case. Said case might lead to either Fontaine going down or to the New Years Eve attack? Wouldn't be a first person shooting, but more like an RPG. Maybe you can use plasmids and tonics, but you have to be careful about it.

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    what about an alternating story (similar but not as cliche as Call of duty's) between two or so splicers on different sides of the civil war

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    Quote Originally Posted by BioShlockMan View Post
    How about you play the part of a detective during the prime of Rapture that gets a case. Said case might lead to either Fontaine going down or to the New Years Eve attack? Wouldn't be a first person shooting, but more like an RPG. Maybe you can use plasmids and tonics, but you have to be careful about it.
    Sounds cool when you first hear the idea, I'll give you that. Only problem is being a detective (Heavy Rain) where you have to be careful and stay under the radar (Assassins Creed) might be a bit ungenuine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Addict L View Post
    same problem as I stated above...what would you even do??? Get jobs around Rapture or something?? not exactly the definition of fun
    When 2K made MAFIA, the main character, Thomas Angelo was a taxi driver.
    The early mission envolved you just driving around the city picking up and dropping off people. After the 4th customer is let off some thugs start hasseling you and you have to run for your life while being shot at, to get to safety you have to find your way to the Salieri Bar a few blocks down the street. Once you get there the thugs are gunned down and you join the family.

    The point of the mission was to get the player used to driving around the city and out of town and to introduce the character/player to the Salieri Family.

    A tactic like this can be used again in BS3 if it was a prequel, and your just an average joe who goes to work everyday etc. etc.

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