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    father wales & Gil Alexander what if's?

    If he was the person that was guiding the family, as a sort of preacher why didn't we hear more from him? Like I think it would have been cool to hear his sermons over the P.A. system, they could have built him up until the actual point where you get to battle him.

    This one's kind of a stretch but what if somehow Gil would have broken out of fontaine futuristics and could have been a final boss, he was crazy enough to hate you, and he was probably pissed at lamb for using him and then just abandoning him like he was a piece of meat. I know that you have the option of killing him, but they could have played it off as if it didn't really have an effect on him since he was so spliced.

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    Agreed on the topic of Father Wales - I expected him to have a bigger role in the game, I never really felt I quite "got" what his religion/cult was all about...

    As for Alexander though, I strongly disagree - to have him show up as the final boss would totally undermine the difficult ethical choice you must make when you meet him in Fontaine Futuristics (that was, in my opinion, the toughest such choice in the whole game) and undermine his whole background, to just turn him into a fairly generic huge monster to battle.

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    idea to fiox story...have the pumping station away from the chapel and have it locked...whales has the key...and hes preaching to the splicers there and tells them to do the work of god..simple yet...they messed it up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BADavid View Post
    As for Alexander though, I strongly disagree - to have him show up as the final boss would totally undermine the difficult ethical choice you must make when you meet him in Fontaine Futuristics (that was, in my opinion, the toughest such choice in the whole game) and undermine his whole background, to just turn him into a fairly generic huge monster to battle.
    I agree he would have been a terrible boss. However, I think he was a fairly easy choice. Even more of a hateable character than Stanley was (although not presented as such), it was easy not to grant sane Gil his last wish for me. Well, that was my reasoning.

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    I think that if they played off on Wales paranoia about God and hear his sermons, threw up more roadblocks and was a more active person in trying to stop you, he could have rivaled Sander Cohen in terms of awesome characters. I mean that little sermon he give right before you fight him was really good and really funny. I wish they elaborated on him more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Isadore View Post
    I think that if they played off on Wales paranoia about God and hear his sermons, threw up more roadblocks and was a more active person in trying to stop you, he could have rivaled Sander Cohen in terms of awesome characters. I mean that little sermon he give right before you fight him was really good and really funny. I wish they elaborated on him more
    I agree, Father Wales could have been used for a much larger role than what he had.

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    I agree. We should have heard more of Simon Wales preaching over the P.A.

    But I don't think Alexander would make a good boss fight.

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    Was anyone suprised at first when you were forced to kill Simon Wales?

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    +1 on Wales.

    Gil? +1 on disagreeing. We've all had our share of big'n'buffed end-game bosses (tekken 6 argh ). I didn't even know you could leave the area without killing him, it was simply natural to follow his wish, he was a really intelligent person to predict his own fate to such an extent. Leaving him in a form of a...giant brain-mass that has 0% sanity in him and 0% mobility and no one to communicate to when you're done with the area is just cruel and unnecessary from my point of view. Oh, and that area had waaay too many goodies in it to be interesting. I've left about 6-7 medkits there in hope I'd use em during the level, but didn't.

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    My theroy on Gil was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinclair Saucer View Post
    My theroy on Gil was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off
    Let's hear this theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Tivilon View Post
    Let's hear this theory.
    My theory was that if Delta disobyed Sinclair; whether not harvesting Little Sisters or not killing those that he wanted like Grace then Sinlcair would shut off the Vita-Chambers.

    Since Sinclair and Alexander co-built the Vita-Chambers, Alexander would rig them back on for Delta

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