TENENBAUM?! Did 2k have her as a character in the game and then just change their minds? I was bumbed to never hear from her again. I cared very much about her character and was looking forward to a potential plot twist (which I never got) with her in it! There was no closure with her character. She would have been a better guide than Sinclair anyways IMO. Big mess up, 2k.
Last edited by Tula; 02-12-2010 at 05:28 PM.
She will be EVIL in BioShock 3, and Sinclair is awesome.
If bioshock 3 isn't a prequal, or doesn't have any of the classic characters in it, or isn't overseen by Kevin Levine, then I have no interest in even knowing Tenenbaum's fate.
I didn't really see the point of her to be honest. And now it seems as though she's stuck in Rapture again, unless she got out the way she came in.
I still reckon she's in cahoots with Fontaine. I sure she had a relationship with him, someone said it in an audio diary in the first game.
She said she had others to help, so she was going to release the little sisters and take them up with her I think.
It was never actually said that they were in a relationship, it was only an assumption by the paparazzi due to the time they were spending together, which was only because of the deal the two had regarding Jack and the Little Sisters.Originally Posted by andru87
I was wondering about her fate too. I was hoping Sinclair would only be a temporary guide (I disliked him strongly) and then Tenenbaum would take over for the rest of the game once she was safe. I thought it was silly to only have her in the game so briefly and not even tell us what happened to her, when she had such a profound role in the first.
Tenenbaum kept going to Fontaine's house because she was telling him directly that she didn't want to continue creating Little Sisters, not because she was dating him.
I suspect they probably fooled around a bit since Fontaine was the only person in Rapture who took her seriously and she admired his efficiency. I doubt they simply stayed single all those years in Rapture.
Well, Fontaine mentions "dames who thought they knew it all.." so I doubt he was single all that time, sounds like he just used a lot of women from that statement. Also he tells Jack that he "doesn't mix business with pleasure." so fooling around with Tenenbaum would break that rule. He was a rich man and a gangster. He probably "had a lot of gravy" without needing Tenenbaum. I assume he was much better at hiding women from the paparazzi then Ryan for example.
Last edited by Venom Wolf; 02-12-2010 at 11:12 PM.
Tenenbaum claims that she's going to help "others". This could be seen in different ways I suppose. Most likely she meant Little Sisters...
But perhaps Bioshock 3 will be based around someone else in Rapture, during the events of Bioshock 2? It wouldn't exactly be far-fetched, as she never appears again in Bioshock 2.
Tenenbaum was my favorite character..... I really missed her presence. But as the game progressed, I found myself liking Eleanor more than Tenenbaum. She kind of filled that gap for me. I love Eleanor!
Tenenbaum was my favorite too. Both Eleanor and Sophia filled the gap for me, although Sophia was very cruel in her own caring way, I still enjoyed listening to her speak, and what she had to say. I think the both of them had the most memorable lines in the game. Eleanor was sweet, she was the only character I sincerely cared for.
The only thing I liked about Sophia was hating her (motives) Ryan and Sinclair were ace.
My hope is that in Bioshock 3, we help Tenebaum save ALL the little sisters remaining (hopefully like 20 something, although not all of them would have a lot of adam), and destroy anything and everything that could be used to make more
That said, I too was dissapointed she never came back, although I do like Sinclair a lot.
I expect possibly some DLC where we get to see her side of BioShock 2
I think for Bioshock 3 we should have someone else who found Rapture from the surface because their submarine or something got hit by Tenenbaum's bathysphere, causing both to sink, but Tenenbaum saves the main character by pulling him into her bathysphere as they were both sinking, meaning he's the only survivor from the crew. You're mission during Bioshock 3 is to find a way to escape, while traveling through Rapture with Tenenbaum as your guide. Perhaps in even more places Ryan didn't know about, meaning new enemies. Then later on in the game, you find out that your crew was related to Delta and was looking for him when your submarine was hit. Then, you find out that Bioshock 3 is actually happening at the same time as Bioshock 2, and in the end you become an Alpha Series with Sinclair and you have to battle Subject Delta in Persephone. Of course, you will not survive, but depending on how you act throughout the game, you will either have a good/bad death, or something like that.
Just an idea I had.
*SNORT*
Sinclair is far better than Tenebaum
Wait, you don't see the point of Tenenbaum in BioShock 2? Or you don't see the point of her in general? I'm a bit confused, to be honest.
prequel please!
He sure was, as I said in another thread comparing all the characters in BS1 to BS2, the one's in the second one far outshined the one's in the first one. Sinclair is a prime example. It was heartbreaking for me to kill him.
Here is the money quote from her, and the last thing she says to you. "There are others I must help before the city drowns."
Sounds like she will be helping someone else out. Who knows, maybe one of the minor characters we were introduced to via audio diaries.
Also, from her diary called "The Situation". "Her splicers destroyed my submersible and forced me to run...I have already rescued a few of the little ones from Lamb. They all want to know how we will get home. I wish I had the words for them."
I think that DLC focused on helping Tenenbaum and the rest of the little ones escape seems like a good bet.
I think after being spoiled with being an all powerful Big Daddy, it would be depressing if 2K ends up putting us in control of another human or a stripling like Tenenbaum.
I forgot where I read about it, but they mentioned that you could hear Mark Meltzer shooting at a Big Sister at one point in the game. So Mark would still (theoretically) be in human form during the first part of Delta's reawakening in Rapture. I think it would be pretty neat if we could play through Mark's story in Rapture and find out just how he managed to survive in this place.
Then again, this doesn't really go with Bioshock's unwritten rule of having characters who don't have an explicit backstory and personality.
I'd like to know how Tenenbaum is rescuing the Little Sisters. She's almost 50. It can't be easy for a woman her age to take on Big Daddies, not to mention the multitude of splicers living in Rapture. She's gotta have help, but who? DLC or a prequel of some sort would be nice, 2K.
This, QFT.
Tenenbaum is likely in a secure area at the end of Bs2, with the Little Sisters she's rescued.
I love tenanbaum too, i just hope she doesn't die
50 isn't necessarily old. For instance, Wilkins (From the First Game) is likely in his 60s. And the guy from Siren Alley could be in his 70s.I'd like to know how Tenenbaum is rescuing the Little Sisters. She's almost 50. It can't be easy for a woman her age to take on Big Daddies, not to mention the multitude of splicers living in Rapture. She's gotta have help, but who? DLC or a prequel of some sort would be nice, 2K.
I never said it was old. I'm just saying she's getting up in age, and taking on Big Daddies and splicers by yourself can't be easy. Look at poor Jack and Delta. They had ADAM and plasmids to help them. I'm pretty sure Tenenbaum isn't using ADAM. So how is she able to do it? And if that "guy" your referring to is Father Wales, I'm pretty sure he was using ADAM too. I don't think age matters with ADAM.
Ah yes, Father Wales, couldn't remember his name for the life of me.
Anyway, I doubt Tenenbaum is fighting Big Daddies - most likely just a few Splicers. She's just lucky, I assume.
Isnt it obvious? she said she has to help others like the protagonist of the other bioshock games
But there's gotta be more to it then luck. Hopefully 2K cares enough about us to explain.
Perhaps in BioShock 3...
notice about the "rapture dreams is over"
prety much meen any other bioshock going to be elswhere
wonder if they will try to manifacture slug in hard land
Oh god, I would LOVE a Meltzer DLC/Expansion. I would love 2k FOREVER. I don't care about the details, it would just be so powerful. Also maybe gives bioshock a vocal protagonist... His diaries could be "recorded" on like, the between-level load screens or something.
About Meltzer shouting at the Big Sister, I heard it too.
It was fairly early in Dionysus Park. Lamb was talking to me over radio, and I heard him very faintly shouting at a Big Sister around the corner, but I had subtitles on so I knew he actually said something. He was saying something like 'no, she's my little girl!', the EXACT same thing he says in the audio diary you find at the carousel part in DP.
So it's possible that he JUST became a BD a little bit before you kill him in FF.
DLC/expansion pack/explanation please 2K?
I didn't see the point of her in Bioshock 2 as I expected her to get a bigger role. Though many people have since pointed that there's possible DLC from this.
regardless of where she went afterward or whether she'll be flushed out in DLC,
the fact remains that she served almost no purpose in the original story and could have easy been left out with little to no consequence...
there's no reason for this...they should have just left her out...
If there's a BioShock 3, you can bet your car that Tenenbaum will be in it. She might be the most important character in the series.
Whoa whoa. What about Ryan and Fontaine?
"might" was the key word in that quote...
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