I was curious if anyone has any (preferably hi-def) screenies of the artwork featured throughout Rapture, or the files at which I can find them.
I'm referencing the ones featuring what I believe is Eleanor "hovering" above Lamb lying down, the DNA strand turning int butterflies, and the arm duo set showing a hand holding eve and the other injecting it.
Any help would be appreciated!
I wondered about this as well. I thought the paintings were a fantastic touch--particularly in Siren Alley, where painting subjects include the plane crash and an awesome Dr. Steinman with 3 crucified patients.
I missed this one, where is it exactly (still in Siren Alley)Originally Posted by theempyrealwordsmith
I don't recall for sure (i'm at the end of the game...seems like forever ago). But, like all the paintings, it's set up like a shrine, so just look around for lots of candles. I think it was in the first half of the level...but i could be completely wrong.
It's not in an obvious place, it's sort of in a dead end.
But it's a wonderful, wonderful image.
I really loved the pair of paintings showing Jack's hands and wrist tatoos, with one hand holding a syringe. It's an iconic scene of the first game.
I loved the Steinman one infront of his 3 crucified victims
This painting was creepy as ****..why would they glorify Steinmans mutilation of these people?
probably because he had people crucified,and Father Wales thought it had some kind religious significance to it...I didn't see the painting though...could anyone post a screen-shot of it,if possible,please??
Good point..anyone have any pictures if the paintings of Jack..I just got through Siren Alley and somehow missed them.
Heres the links for the 3 pictures found in Siren Alley about Jack and Steinman
Plane Wreck
http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File:Planewreck.png
Jacks Wrists
http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File:...2-17-22-10.png
Steinman Mural
http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File:Steinman_mural.jpg
Thanks for sharing that, I especially love the plane in flames. Loved that intro. Epic.
Missed it? It's right outside The Pink Pearl. Not exactly hidden away.
The number of players who are saying "I never heard the splicers say that!!!" and "Wow, I never saw that!!!" tell me there are 'WAYYYYyyyyy too many people who just rush thru the game, zapping and shooting, and never look around.
Maybe if there were fewer health packs they'd slow down and actually LOOK at all the work the level designers put in. (And cut back on the friggin' Red Bull.)
Otherwise they might as well be playing Tetris.
Here are some more links of the paintings found around Rapture. Also better quality of previous ones
Little Sister Hovering Over Eleanor
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...ize/Lamb_3.jpg
Butterflys turning into DNA
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...ize/Lamb_4.jpg
Eleanor's Butterfly Face and Followers
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...ize/Lamb_2.jpg
Better Quality Plane Crash
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...ir_DF-0301.jpg
Better Quality Jack Injecting Eve
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...size/Hands.jpg
Big Butterfly Made Out Of Hands
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...P_1024x768.jpg
Last edited by raptures butterfly; 05-30-2010 at 09:53 AM.
The lady in the white dress is Eleanor, not Lamb. The Little Sister is just one of the Little Sisters that Lamb kidnapped from the surface, not Eleanor. Eleanor is the Messiah of Rapture and the Little Sisters are their future Messiahs.
Yes, Lamb was exactly like Pol Pot in that she made sure to keep herself in the background of her grand scheme, and avoid cultivating any cult of personality.
Last edited by Big Bad Sister; 05-29-2010 at 11:02 PM.
ohk cool. thanks for the correction
Those look amazing! Thanks for those links - great quality!Here are some more links of the paintings found around Rapture. Also better quality of previous ones
Little Sister Hovering Over Eleanor
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...ize/Lamb_3.jpg
Butterflys turning into DNA
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...ize/Lamb_4.jpg
Eleanor's Butterfly Face and Followers
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...ize/Lamb_2.jpg
Better Quality Plane Crash
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...ir_DF-0301.jpg
Better Quality Jack Injecting Eve
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...size/Hands.jpg
Big Butterfly Made Out Of Hands
http://www.rapturearchives.com/img/m...P_1024x768.jpg
You're welcome.ohk cool. thanks for the correction
Why couldn't it be Eleanor? When Eleanor was a Little Sister, she could have worn a dress like that. I don't think she had to only ever wear a white dress like we see in the game's intro. I think the white bow in her hair is a clue that she's Eleanor. Eleanor is the savior, that's why they used the vent design as the religious glow around her head. Why would a random little sister feature prominently in a religious painting like that? Not to mention that I think the Little Sister actually looks a bit like Eleanor.
The woman lying down looks nothing like Eleanor. Why would we see Eleanor dead/sleeping/who-knows-what as an older woman? I think this older woman looks a lot more like Lamb. I don't even think that's her dress. I think that's a white blanket. Then, look at the style of her clothing underneath the blanket, her dress or whatever has short sleeves. Then compare it to the younger-woman-style dress in the next picture, where I do think you're right that this one is Eleanor:
Last edited by Relight; 02-21-2011 at 02:37 PM. Reason: Updated old links
Eleanor's dress was white, not blue, and she wore her hair in braids, not in a bow. The devs made sure that you could tell the difference between Eleanor and the other Little Sisters by giving her a unique Little Sister model. Now, if only they'd done the same thing for Cindy Meltzer!The Little Sister looks like any other Little Sister in Rapture, not like Eleanor. She has a bow in her hair; Eleanor had braids.I don't think she had to only ever wear a white dress like we see in the game's intro. I think the white bow in her hair is a clue that she's Eleanor. Eleanor is the savior, that's why they used the vent design as the religious glow around her head. Why would a random little sister feature prominently in a religious painting like that? Not to mention that I think the Little Sister actually looks a bit like Eleanor.
As for the glow, it makes perfect sense to have a glowing halo around a Little Sister's head. The splicers consider them holy, because they gather ADAM, the means by which Eleanor will be made into the Utopian and their Messiah.
And why not use a random Little Sister? The Little Sister in the painting is supposed to represent all of the Little Sisters in Rapture, because they're all ADAM gatherers, so they're all holy.The woman in the white dress is sleeping, and Eleanor has been sleeping for ten years. Eleanor has been receiving ADAM treatments the whole time, and who provides ADAM in Rapture? The Little Sisters. That's why the Little Sister is shown hovering over Eleanor; she is the means by which the Saviour, Eleanor, will be delivered. Kind of like Mary the mother of Jesus. Eleanor will be mother to the Rapture Family; right now, the Little Sister is a sort of "mother" to Eleanor.The woman in the white dress looks nothing like Eleanor. Why would we see Eleanor dead/sleeping/who-knows-what as an older woman? I think this older woman in the white dress looks a lot more like Lamb. Look at the style of the dress. Then compare it to the younger-woman-style dress in the next picture, where I do think you're right that this one is Eleanor.
Last edited by Big Bad Sister; 05-30-2010 at 10:59 AM.
But still, if the lady is sleeping and it's supposed to be Eleanor, why does she look like a much older woman, plus she doesn't look like Eleanor? If you think the Little Sister isn't Eleanor because the artist paid attention to the color of the dress, wouldn't the artist pay attention to how someone's face looks, which is a far more important feature? I still very much think that the Little Sister LOOKS like Eleanor.
Most of your reasoning is based on the dress, and I just think the rest of the evidence is far greater. The paintings could have been done at a stage in production before the intro video was done. Plus, I think the Little Sister is Eleanor BECAUSE of the blue dress. The blue of Eleanor's Little Sister dress matches with the blue of the butterflies in this scene and in the DNA picture. Blue butterflies in DNA = Eleanor, so blue butterflies surrounding Little Sister in blue dress = Little Sister in blue dress is Eleanor.
Final piece of evidence - the names of the resource files in the game.
RED_Mural_Eleanor_LittleSister: http://www.game-archivist.com/raptur...ize/Lamb_3.jpg
RED_Mural_Eleanor_Savior: http://www.game-archivist.com/raptur...ize/Lamb_2.jpg
RED_Mural_Eleanor_DNA: http://www.game-archivist.com/raptur...ize/Lamb_4.jpg
In other words:
Eleanor as Little Sister
Eleanor as Savior
Eleanor's DNA
Last edited by Relight; 02-21-2011 at 02:37 PM. Reason: Updated old links
Why does she have to 'look like" Eleanor? The woman with the butterfly face certainly does not look like Eleanor. The whole point of these paintings is that Eleanor loses her identity and become the People's Daughter. The first painting shows Eleanor before she has become the Utopian. The second painting shows her as the Utopian, surrounded by adoring followers who want to become Utopians just like her. The third painting shows how a person is converted into a Utopian - through genetic manipulation. Eleanor's appearance does not matter, because she is not supposed to have her own identity.Not just the dress - the hairstyle! The child Eleanor wears braids. The other Little Sisters wear bows.If you think the Little Sister isn't Eleanor because the artist paid attention to the color of the dress, wouldn't the artist pay attention to how someone's face looks, which is a far more important feature? I still very much think that the Little Sister LOOKS like Eleanor.No, I'm not fixating on the dress. The dress is one piece of evidence. There's also the fact that Eleanor is sleeping and the Little Sister's hair is done in the same style as that of the other Little Sisters.Most of your reasoning is based on the dress, and I just think the rest of the evidence is far greater. The paintings could have been done at a stage in production before the intro video was done. Plus, I think the Little Sister is Eleanor BECAUSE of the blue dress. The blue of Eleanor's Little Sister dress matches with the blue of the butterflies in this scene and in the DNA picture. Blue butterflies in DNA = Eleanor, so blue butterflies surrounding Little Sister in blue dress = Little Sister in blue dress is Eleanor.
EDIT: Perhaps the reason that the woman looks much older than Eleanor is that she is an older version of Eleanor. Sofia would've foreseen that Eleanor would need to do much more splicing before she'd actually become the Utopian, and that many years would probably pass, with Eleanor successfully becoming a Utopian only at Sofia's death.
Last edited by Big Bad Sister; 05-30-2010 at 11:34 AM.
Appearance does not matter, but it does?
Since when do little girls have to wear the same hair style every single day?
Eleanor's appearance does not matter, because she is not a person in her own right. The splicers have probably never even met her, and don't even care for what she looks like. They only care that she becomes the Messiah, and these paintings are an abstract representation of her as the Messiah, not a literal representation of her as a flesh and blood person.Appearance does not matter, but it does?
Hence the butterfly covering her face.Eleanor always wore braids as a child. Even before she became a Little Sister, she wore braids. Check out her audio diary photograph. She's even wearing braids in that!Since when do little girls have to wear the same hair style every single day?
EDIT: And why would the Family want to portray Eleanor as a generic Little Sister if they'd wanted the viewers of the art to recognize her as Eleanor? Wouldn't they be confused by her appearance, since she looks like any other Little Sisters, and they can be all over Rapture? Surely, they would've chosen a more unique design.
Last edited by Big Bad Sister; 05-30-2010 at 12:40 PM.
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