Guns are heavily unbalanced

[zarkovis]

1st off the damage rate guns do is WAAAAY too low. I'm shooting guys at least 12-15 times with a machinegun and they don't die, yet they can pop behind corners and hit me with 2 grenade shots for a kill. WTF? Pistol is weak. The crossbow is weaker the the grenade launcher so just use the GL. plasmids are cheap, stun grenade launcher twice and I'm dead. Melee should be doing at least 50-65% health instead of like a third. Shotguns should be killing one hit at close ranges. I've shell shocked guys from two feet away twice and they just use freeze, run out of my line of fire and GL me to death. Please reduce that weapon's power and splash range because it is just being spammed like hell. Its unplayable for me right now. Guys getting filled with lead to walk away and then I get an assist. =/

Kills getting stolen way too much because the guns do low low low damage.

[PhiSh]

i only agree with the melee, should kill in 2 hits however i think guns are fine i have been on top 3 almost every game i play that's before i got the launcher which only take 2 shots but takes forever to reload no different than a noobtube in cod

[Amazin_GB]

the rate of damage is great. Just because your bad doesnt mean somethings wrong. I can out gun anyone with machine gun to any grenade launcher. Just because your bad and play cod and can get kills doesnt mean this game is bad

[Kyorisu]

lol two posts. zarkovis you seem confused "real" shooters are not determined by ones health bar. Games with low hp bars actually cater to noobs with quick reflexes over games that requires quick reflexes and constant aim like Quake/UT.

[Errorjack]

^ Shut up and get off 2k's di*k company man. This Mp is trash and not a real shooter. In REAL ones people go down when they get shot. Instead of taking 15 bullets and still walking around. This game is just perfect for noobs like you. All this damn health so it takes no skill. Assist assist assist is all I'm seeing when I'm the only one shooting at him. This MP is trash right now.

I suck, oh yeah you got MAG,COD,KZ2,RE any of em I will ****ing rape you like mike tyson!

Your a real idiot kid. Get your facts right, Digital Extremes made MP. You can't flame at them for you skills. There is videos showing that the pistol is just right. Just because your playing Call of Duty 6 and kill people in 3 bullets doesn't mean it's like that in every game. Stop flaming you child and go cry a river.

[mr.solodolo]

lol two posts. zarkovis you seem confused "real" shooters are not determined by ones health bar. Games with low hp bars actually cater to noobs with quick reflexes over games that requires quick reflexes and constant aim like Quake/UT.

Yeah, this is true. There's not much fun in being able to get a one shot kill everytime like in COD. I think the BS2 MP will improve greatly once they work out a few kinks and when more people get online. It seems like this guy pretty much made his account so he could complain about being no good.

[DeeMaKK]

You guys can thank CoD4 for guys like him.

Clearly you don't realize how unskillful games like CoD really are. They're completely based on who sees who first, they have no recoil, and they have a **** ton of aim assist. THAT ISN'T SKILL!

Sorry, but every person I know that's good says that the pistol rapes hard if you have good aim. Learn to play something other CoD where it takes the simple act of seeing someone to kill them.

[panda rave]

The pistol is my favorite so far, I'm not sure what game you were playing

[iTz Hallow]

i been a bioshock fan for a while now but im not saying this because i suck at the game but the multiplayer failed but the single player is the best.

[mr.solodolo]

The pistol is my favorite so far, I'm not sure what game you were playing

Agreed, pistol is great. Favorite by far.

[Kyburz]

Keep it clean in here guys, engage in a civil discourse or this thread isn't going to remain open.

[theperson]

1st off the damage rate guns do is WAAAAY too low. I'm shooting guys at least 12-15 times with a machinegun and they don't die, yet they can pop behind corners and hit me with 2 grenade shots for a kill. WTF? Pistol is weak. The crossbow is weaker the the grenade launcher so just use the GL. plasmids are cheap, stun grenade launcher twice and I'm dead. Melee should be doing at least 50-65% health instead of like a third. Shotguns should be killing one hit at close ranges. I've shell shocked guys from two feet away twice and they just use freeze, run out of my line of fire and GL me to death. Please reduce that weapon's power and splash range because it is just being spammed like hell. Its unplayable for me right now. Guys getting filled with lead to walk away and then I get an assist. =/

Kills getting stolen way too much because the guns do low low low damage.

i never really thought that spawning with a launcher of any kind was a good idea in any shooter, melee is way overused in all shooters and should be less than 50% how weak is the pistol?, grenade launcher does seem kinda over powered by the description you gave, plasmids need to be there or its just shooting kinda like cod with more life and no kill streaks, and hey this mp could have been as bad as GOW2s MP with tons of lag, defective shotguns, tons of glitches, long ass time to find a game.

[DavidtheBrave1]

I think thing are pretty balanced overall, plasmid can't be spammed like everyone feared. The only thing I would consider "cheap" is the grenade launcher.

[philippfuelb]

The pistol is my favorite so far, I'm not sure what game you were playing

I whould rather have the pistol over the grenade launcher any day of the week also my fave is the shotgun

[Temple]

I agree I feel the guns are pretty balanced.
The grenade launcher only really appears cheap when someone jumps out from around a corner, seems to yell SUPRISE then blows you away!

Even then, you unlock the thing at level 6 so if you hate people using it so much why not just use it yourself?

[Knight Carver]

Yep - guns feel pretty balanced to me so far as well. Loving it!

[Fief]

You guys can thank CoD4 for guys like him.

Clearly you don't realize how unskillful games like CoD really are. They're completely based on who sees who first, they have no recoil, and they have a **** ton of aim assist. THAT ISN'T SKILL!

Sorry, but every person I know that's good says that the pistol rapes hard if you have good aim. Learn to play something other CoD where it takes the simple act of seeing someone to kill them.

Alright, first I want to say that I do not agree with all the origanal poster, the game is fine. But I also do not agree with this post either, CoD 4 is a great game and on the PC there is no aim assist, also CoD brings realism to the table...let's face it if u get hit with 2 or 3 rounds with any gun your going down. I think people have to stop flaming and arguing on what game is better. There both great. And I am sorry if the origanal poster doesn't like the way the multiplayer is, but I guess the solution to that is just don't play it if it makes you angry.
Everyone has opinions, you can't change that. But starting arguments and crying about which game is better isn't helping anyone

[s1mug]

geyser with electirc lol

[TwV_Advent]

Completely agree with DeeMakk.

Love the pistol. Aero Dash + shotgun is pretty sick too.

[AltruisticRage]

The multiplayer appears relatively balanced to me. It not being very fun is my main issue.

[HeavySplicerGuy]

just respawn and keep playing?

[BraveGnome]

The only problem I see is the grenade launcher. But has anyone tried to use telekinesis on them to shoot the grenades back?

I haven't tried but maybe it's possible, what they could do if it isn't already possible, is make the grenades shoot slower so people can counter the grenade launcher noobs easily.

[Chronic Alchemy]

1st off the damage rate guns do is WAAAAY too low. I'm shooting guys at least 12-15 times with a machinegun and they don't die, yet they can pop behind corners and hit me with 2 grenade shots for a kill. WTF? Pistol is weak. The crossbow is weaker the the grenade launcher so just use the GL. plasmids are cheap, stun grenade launcher twice and I'm dead. Melee should be doing at least 50-65% health instead of like a third. Shotguns should be killing one hit at close ranges. I've shell shocked guys from two feet away twice and they just use freeze, run out of my line of fire and GL me to death. Please reduce that weapon's power and splash range because it is just being spammed like hell. Its unplayable for me right now. Guys getting filled with lead to walk away and then I get an assist. =/

Kills getting stolen way too much because the guns do low low low damage.

One, the severs are a little laggy and I tend to notice this...

Two, Kills can usaully taken in a lot of FPS multiplayers, so quit complaining...

Three, Check your connection frequently(because of lag)...

Four, practice makes perfect, so play a little more and accept your loses...

Otherwise I see this as a "rant" that isn't needed...

[PopNfresh2312]

Well, I for one think that the damage is unrealistic.....1 to 2 bullets should put down anyone. Instead i'm fireing 30+ machine gun rounds at a dude that I already set onfire and he still wont drop...wtf?

Plus, all of the servers are filled with nade spammers now....I love love love this mp. I just want the bullet damage to be alittle more realistic(not so much like Mw2, maybe somewhere in the middle between the 2 games)

Still, it's so much fun to rape as a Bd, and hacking those torrets is awsome.

However, I think once I level up a few more times, I will be able to do more damage with my bullets.......can you catch grenades yet?

[BlackHawks8188]

lol this is why the CoD fanboys should stick to their crappy game


This game requires a little bit of skill with the weapons and plasmid combination sorry this is not Call of Poopy Modern Gay For You 2 were you can insta kill someone with Akimbo Shotguns from a football length apart

[Izaac]

The pistol in this game is amazing with the auto firing

[philippfuelb]

I haven't noticed any problems with the grenade launcher. I can kill a mate faster with my pistol then he can with his nade launcher and dont get me started if I have my shotgun

[BullyX22]

I agree with the melee and the shot gun, shot guns are veeerryy weak, it took me for ever to get the shot gun trial done, im currently working on my melee, its impossible, i only have 2/30 kills so far, the melee should be waaaaaaaaaaaay stronger.

[Sharky]

I agree with the melee and the shot gun, shot guns are veeerryy weak, it took me for ever to get the shot gun trial done, im currently working on my melee, its impossible, i only have 2/30 kills so far, the melle should be waaaaaaaaaaaay stronger.

What I do is shoot them with the shotgun, then melee them.

[x DRoiiDz]

lol my main class is pistol and crossbow... i get like 15 kills a game and only a few deaths... its called tatics.... try not to go in guns blazing...

[SonGohanX]

Aside from the grenade launcher, I don't think any of the guns are too weak or powerful at this time. I'm VERY glad this is not COD one shot/one kill. It seems like too many FPS games are going that route now

Seriously though, the splash damage range on the GL is a little ridiculous. Way too easy to hit people without even aiming.

My only other issue would be the character movement speed. Is it just me, or does it feel a bit sluggish. I think a 10-15% running speed increase would make the game feel much better.

[Kadmus]

Why are people complaining about realistic damage absorption when you can shoot magic **** out of your arm ,and you're all spliced up. It's not supposed to be realistic haha.

[bitcloudrzr]

Why are people complaining about realistic damage absorption when you can shoot magic **** out of your arm ,and you're all spliced up. It's not supposed to be realistic haha.

Because retards that think CoD is the only shooter ever created are out there. I don't even think the grenade launcher is that bad. 2 direct shots+fire didn't beat my Thompson+fire.

Same retards would probably play Unreal or Quake and ask for realistic damage.

[gtapocalypse]

My main issue is with the grenade launcher. Normally I wouldn't complain but when I play three games in a row with people just abusing it over and over, the game kind of loses the fun, as with any FPS with splash damage launcher. When I go 7 and 16 in a multiplayer that I was first going 20 and 3 when i was playing ranks 1-5, I see a bit of a problem. And when 13 or 14 of those deaths are from the over-powered launcher, i see that maybe me losing doesn't have much to do with me getting worse and/or others getting better. People say why not use it to get back at them, but that is the wrong mentality; I don't sink to the level of bad players just because they are abusing a broken weapon. There are three options; remove it from the game, nerf it, or raise the rank needed to acquire it. I love the MP; plasmid + weapons combo is fantastic and done well, except the grenade launcher abuse is ruining the game, and will probably just make me stop playing and go to another FPS. Hopefully they will roll out a patch changing some aspect of it to make the game more enjoyable, because I really would like to keep on playing MP.

[BraveGnome]

I found out that you can fire a plasmid at heat seeking rockets to destroy them before they get to you. I haven't successfully used telekinesis on a grenade or rocket yet because i don't usually have it equipped, but I'll probably run around for a bit with it and see if it's possible.

I'm sure you can probably use telekinesis to shoot back rockets but I'm not sure about grenades, they seem to go a bit faster. It'll be great to master throwing back peoples grenades, kill them with their own weapon haha. Maybe it'll show them how cheap it is.

[brill0w]

lol my main class is pistol and crossbow... i get like 15 kills a game and only a few deaths... its called tatics.... try not to go in guns blazing...

My loadout love them pistols and crossbows

I can only get 15kills a game when people aren't using the grenade launcher though, it is mad overpowered compared to the other guns, not in damage but in ease of use and aoe effect, it sets you on fire! and has a massive radius.

As with the melees what i try and do is aero dash into people, stun them, then hit them a couple of times (I get annoyed when my mouse goes funny and I am just looking at the floor, I really do need a mousepad)

well thats my rant over, I do really believe the grenade launcher is overpowered, and everyone who I play with does too (but when there are too many grenade launchers the only thing we can do is use them our selves, and its a matter of who sees who first like CoD )

[ChronoGawd]

BioShock 2: The only game where you can get hit by 2 grenades, and 3 shot guns and still be alive.

[vaiesej]

melee needs to be improved
shotgun needs higher damage at point blank range
nail gun needs to fire a fraction of a second faster to start
could just be me but i keep getting caught of things in open spaces when using aero dash

[BraveGnome]

Everyone uses the nail gun and i get killed by it alot, I'm not saying it's cheap but it deffinately doesn't need to be improved..

[Gameplayer03]

nail gun needs to fire a fraction of a second faster to start

NOOO. You shut your mouth right now. I've been playin against people who've been riding the trigger (keeping the gun revved up without actually shooting) and walk around looking for a target. By the time they find someone, they can blow them away before they even have a chance because that gun is so powerful and they've overcome its weakness (shooting delay).

Now they need to figure out a way to fix THAT because I can see a trend starting here. (Don't none of you go doing it! It's cheap and your opponent doesn't have a chance, even if they see you first.)