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    Resolutions and Antialiasing

    I finally got the game this morning via steam (11Gb in 1 hour )
    Then went through the usual graphics tweaking process and...

    Basically if you run the game in anything other than monitor native resolution, the jaggies are really extreme - it hurts my eyes! - many other games seem to upscale from lower resolutions really well, COD:MW2, and even UT3 bizarrely! But Bioshock 2 seems to upscale badly.

    So I overclocked my graphics card so I can run native res(1440x900) at 30-45fps, but even still it would be nice to add a little AA, even just 2x, or 4x would make a huge difference.

    With the original Bioshock I managed to force antialiasing from the NVidia control panel (also needed the -dx9 parameter), but this doesn't seem to work with Bioshock 2.

    Please help!
    Last edited by PaulMongoose; 02-08-2010 at 10:56 PM.

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    Bump!

    Surely i am not the only person who thinks this game needs some AA, even if it's just a hack/forced on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMongoose View Post
    Bump!

    Surely i am not the only person who thinks this game needs some AA, even if it's just a hack/forced on.
    No mate, your not. I totally agree. I am running at a fairly high resolution natively so they are not too bad. But some AA would indeed be nice...and modern.

    Problem is? The UT3 Engines simply doesn't support Anti aliasing period. (unless it's a forced hack)
    Why? I will probably never know or understand. Seems to me that industry standards simply don't matter any more as long as you have a good advertising campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huge Daddy View Post
    Problem is? The UT3 Engines simply doesn't support Anti aliasing period. .
    but only with dx10, right?
    never had problems to enable aa with bioshock 1 + windows xp + dx9, so is it possible to play bioshock 2 with vista/windows 7 AND still dx9 AND working aa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zappo View Post
    but only with dx10, right?
    never had problems to enable aa with bioshock 1 + windows xp + dx9, so is it possible to play bioshock 2 with vista/windows 7 AND still dx9 AND working aa?
    Nope. I've tried it, even with the -dx9 parameter it still doesn't work.

    -dx9 does give better frame rates, and I really can't tell the difference between dx10 and dx9, I even took screengrabs to make sure i wasn't missing something!
    The consoles only have dx9 iirc, so i'm really not sure what the point of dx10 is with this game.

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    Will be released if the patch adds anti-aliasing on Windows XP?

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    "aa patch" is already out, nhancer rules!
    http://forum.nhancer.com/showthread.php?t=1620
    can't say anything about bloodinarks hints there, i've only tried the attached profile from grestorn and yes, aa works fine with windows 7 and dx10 for me now.
    Last edited by Zappo; 02-09-2010 at 09:26 AM.

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    yeah. hey mate?

    you got to overclock to play a native res? your pc is too crap to play bioshock.

    you cannot use antialiasing, your pc is too crap.

    bioshock has nothing to do with jagged edges, its your monitor and your resolution and your graphics card that need replacing.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMongoose View Post
    I finally got the game this morning via steam (11Gb in 1 hour )
    Then went through the usual graphics tweaking process and...

    Basically if you run the game in anything other than monitor native resolution, the jaggies are really extreme - it hurts my eyes! - many other games seem to upscale from lower resolutions really well, COD:MW2, and even UT3 bizarrely! But Bioshock 2 seems to upscale badly.

    So I overclocked my graphics card so I can run native res(1440x900) at 30-45fps, but even still it would be nice to add a little AA, even just 2x, or 4x would make a huge difference.

    With the original Bioshock I managed to force antialiasing from the NVidia control panel (also needed the -dx9 parameter), but this doesn't seem to work with Bioshock 2.

    Please help!

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    Any Unreal Engine 3 game can get forced MSAA through nHancer with a Geforce series 8 or above (I doesn't know about ATI cards). I think some people can't see the effect because of some other resolution problem. The game is running with lower resolutions but upscaled in some systems, so the AA doesn't seens to be active.

    Check out this thread: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57069

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    Quote Originally Posted by landaishan View Post
    yeah. hey mate?

    you got to overclock to play a native res? your pc is too crap to play bioshock.

    you cannot use antialiasing, your pc is too crap.

    bioshock has nothing to do with jagged edges, its your monitor and your resolution and your graphics card that need replacing.
    Err no. Just no. Bioshock 1 doesn't have these problems, so neither should Bioshock 2.

    I would be happy to upgrade my PC to see BETTER graphics, but Bioshock 2 is clearly WORSE than Bioshock, even when both are maxed.

    Stop ignoring the issue. The consoles only play 1280x720, so if I can play 1440x900 then it's still far above what the xbox/ps3 guys can get.

    And yes, i can use antialiasing, I did it with Bioshock 1 and got 60fps, same with MW2.

    So clearly the problem here is NOT my pc, it's the game, and i'm not the only one - there are tons of posts from people with really top spec PCs still having issues. So upgrading is no guarantee of solving the problems.

    So there, owned.

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    I downloaded nHancer and the profile - it does enable AA but it also caused the game to crash after 1 minute.

    Previously I'd been able to play fine - no crashes and no mouse lag.

    I've attached the 'SetFOV 90' variable to my walk key in my User.ini so all I need is some AA and I can enjoy the game completely.

    Hopefully the next official drivers will fix this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepy Ben View Post
    I downloaded nHancer and the profile - it does enable AA but it also caused the game to crash after 1 minute.

    Previously I'd been able to play fine - no crashes and no mouse lag.

    I've attached the 'SetFOV 90' variable to my walk key in my User.ini so all I need is some AA and I can enjoy the game completely.

    Hopefully the next official drivers will fix this.
    nHancer does a good job for me, but only seems to work in dx9 mode - still it's a definite improvement!

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    no freezes here, the nhancer profile above works great for me and i play it with windows 7 and dx10 enabled in bioshock 2.
    xbox users woult go crazy if they would see bioshock 2 in 1920x1200 with 4xaa, this rocks.

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    How do you guys get such resolutions? I need to run at 1680x952, but my steam version of Bioshock 2 seems to only allow for a max of 1280x720?

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    This site has reviewed and graphics performance of modern graphics cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myxxx323 View Post
    This site has reviewed and graphics performance of modern graphics cards.
    Good review, I google-translated and it confirms that the graphics are now garbage compared to the first one.


    http://translate.google.com/translat...ml&sl=ru&tl=en

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