"Nixie Puzzle" Metal Box Possible Solution

[little___moth]

image kindly provided by Knillinux

http://img4.imageshack.us/i/theinside.png/

so far we know that the re occurring pattern is:

AYNYANEWAW
ERAYNAANNR
NWNANRAANR
NYEYEYEADY
DRANNRDRDY
EANADWRWRW
AARAAYDRRY
AYRYNAANAN
EANNEAAWEW
RWNYEY


we have also found that the occurrences of the letters are:

22 - A's
18 - N's
15 - R's
14 - Y's
10 - E's
8 - W's
6 - D's



we should try to discuss what we are doing so we're not all doing the same thing. also if you have any ideas this is the thread to share them with other people!

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thanks so far for everyone who has helped out with the possible solutions of this puzzle! we all do work well together =]

so far, magicman4443 broke down the nixie puzzle as follows:

Here is a final summary of the Nixie puzzle as far as it is:

We were given the first sequence, which when decoded using the ADFGVX cipher given to us in the cipher book, became:
Hungry Hans last supped in a boot that can never go up.

The answer to this is U-336, which can be translated to NYDYDYEW.

Now, the puzzle will give you a new sequence. This translates to:
Look to the sea where the Baldur once sailed and spell the surname of the captain who failed.
The answer is Ragnarsson, which is coded to AWNAEWANNAAWNRNRRWAN.

This entered will give us yet another code which can be translated to:
In forty seven, a train last left this nest tucked within an ebon fowl's breast.

answer to the next puzzle thank you Varis

The answer to the third puzzle is "Kulusuk".

AR NY NW NY NR NY AR

It doesn't work yet though. You just get the click.

Searching for coastal airports I got Kulusuk, Greenland.

Kulusuk means 'the chest of a Black Guillemot'. A Black Guillemot is a very black bird indeed.

[little___moth]

a list of anagrams that can be made from the letters A D E N R W Y:

Awn
Anew
Awry
Awry
Any
Aw
A
Ad

Darn
Drawn
Dean
Dawn
Draw
Dray
Day
Dry
Dewy
Dye
Dew
Dyer
Drew
Deny
Den

En
End
Ed

New
Nay
Nary
Nary
Nerdy
Nerd

Rand
Randy
Rye
Ran
Red
Raw
Ray
Rend

Wand
Warn
Wan
War
Wed
We
Wry
Ward
Wen
Wren
Wean
Wane
Way
Wend
Wry
Wary

Yew
Ye
Yen
Yard
Yarn
Yawn
Yaw

[Luigisf]

So what I am doing is getting all the possible words made from the letters they give you in te puzzle, then trying to make sentences with them that are 20 characters long

[Red Falcon]

So just to be clear this is the newest unsolved puzzle?


Geez watch it be a A,D,R,E,N,W,Y word thats latin


Do we have a clue for this one (ie the white Knights Journey) or is it just a you figure it out anagram

[Dinomachino]

DARNEDER DEERYARD REWARDED WANDERED WANDERER WARDENRY YARDWAND ANEARED ARRAYED AWARDED AWARDEE AWARDER DEANERY REDRAWN REDWARE REYNARD YEAREND YEARNED YEARNER AWEARY DANDER DARNED DARNER DAWNED DEADEN DEADER DEANED DEARER DEEWAN DENARY DENNED DRAWEE DRAWER DRAYED DREARY EARNED EARNER ENDEAR ENNEAD ERRAND NEARED NEARER RANDAN READER REARED REDDEN REDDER REDEAR REDENY REDRAW REDREW REDYED REEARN RENDED RENDER REREAD REWARD WADDER WANDER WANNED WANNER WARDED WARDEN WARDER WARNED WARNER WARRED WARREN WEANED WEANER WEARER WEDDER WENDED YARDED YARNED YARNER YAWNED YAWNER YEANED YENNED ADDER ANEAR AREAE ARENA ARRAY AWARD AWARE AWNED DANDY DARED DARER DAWED DAWEN DEARY DEEDY DERAY DERRY DEWAN DEWAR DEWED DRAWN DREAD DREAR DREED DRYAD DRYER EARED ENDED ENDER ERRED NEEDY NERDY NEWER RADAR RANDY RANEE RARED RAWER RAYED READD READY REDAN REDED REDRY REDYE REEDY RENEW RERAN REWAN REWED WADDY WADED WADER WANED WANEY WARED WEARY WEEDY WEENY WENNY WRYER YARER YAWED YEARN AERY ANEW ANNA AREA AWAY AWED AWEE AWNY AWRY DADA DARE DARN DAWN DEAD DEAN DEAR DEED DEER DENE DENY DERE DEWY DRAW DRAY DREE DREW DYAD DYED DYER DYNE EARN EDDY EERY ERNE EWER EYED EYEN EYER EYNE EYRA EYRE NAAN NADA NANA NARD NARY NEAR NEED NENE NERD RAND RARE RAYA READ REAR REDD REDE REED REND RYND WADE WADY WAND WANE WANY WARD WARE WARN WARY WEAN WEAR WEED WEEN WEER WEND WERE WREN WYND WYNN YARD YARE YARN YAWN YEAN YEAR ADD ANA AND ANE ANY ARE AWA AWE AWN AYE DAD DAW DAY DEE DEN DEW DEY DRY DYE EAR END ERA ERE ERN ERR EWE EYE NAE NAN NAW NAY NEE NEW RAD RAN RAW RAY RED REE RYA RYE WAD WAE WAN WAR WAY WED WEE WEN WRY WYE WYN YAR YAW YEA YEN YEW AA AD AE AN AR AW AY DE EN ER NA NE RE WE YA YE

More words

[Luigisf]

Woah, how did you get all those words? I just got 53, but they are the only ones that can be made from the "anagram" and are in the dictionary.:
wander,warden,dewar,drawn,wader,waxen,anew,dare,
darn,dawn,dean,dear,draw,drew,earn,erda,near,read, rend,wade,wand,wane,ward,ware,warn,wear,and,are,aw e,awn,axe,den,dew,dna,ear,end,era,new,ran,raw,red, wad,wan,war,wax,wed,ad,an,ax,ex,we,a

[little___moth]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...cypherbook.jpg

i think the box of letters around the title may have something to do with this- and look at mark's note about re-occurring letters. idk. just an idea.

anyone come up with any good sentances yet? i know we probably have to wait for the rest of the week to see what happens... but if we can figure it out now that would be cool too =]

[The Helvetica Scenario]

The reason why I think it probably won't be openable yet is because rarely have we been able to solve two puzzles on the same day... the interminable wait for the 5x5 being a very good example.

[Bmess430]

well, you can fit Andrew Ryan into one whole slot, I think its got to do something with andrew ryan seeing as how you can exactly spell his name.

[Luigisf]

I think the answer is to include at least one of each letter, since they are provided, and the most elusive one is "x" which doesnt seem to fit in the sencences i've done. The words I have with an x are: waxen,axe,wax,ax and ex. And since none of them seem to fit for the moment, my "All must be used" theory may be wrong. Also, it would suck if we found out the answer prematurely and it wont open.
Also Bmess, there is no "y" option.

[Red Falcon]

well, you can fit Andrew Ryan into one whole slot, I think its got to do something with andrew ryan seeing as how you can exactly spell his name.

Could be a smoke screen? I know thats the first thing that everyone thought of when they saw this combination of letters. It seems a little too obvious.

[The Helvetica Scenario]

I think the answer is to include at least one of each letter, since they are provided, and the most elusive one is "x" which doesnt seem to fit in the sencences i've done. The words I have with an x are: waxen,axe,wax,ax and ex. And since none of them seem to fit for the moment, my "All must be used" theory may be wrong. Also, it would suck if we found out the answer prematurely and it wont open.
Also Bmess, there is no "y" option.

On the linked diagram x is confused with y.

[Luigisf]

Oh, the last sign is a y...I'm sorry everyone its just I got confused with this page:http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File:...5x5_puzzle.jpgtranslation
Well, back to the drawing board. You all did well in ignoring my stupid posts.

[Red Falcon]

Oh, the last sign is a y...I'm sorry everyone its just I got confused with this page:http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File:...5x5_puzzle.jpgtranslation
Well, back to the drawing board. You all did well in ignoring my stupid posts.

I've been using this cypher
http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File:...r_alphabet.jpg

[Rapture-Stingers-QB]

The reason why I think it probably won't be openable yet is because rarely have we been able to solve two puzzles on the same day... the interminable wait for the 5x5 being a very good example.

Agreed. Like the 5x5, we need a clue that we don't have yet. The puzzles have been getting more and more complex. I highly doubt we've got everything we need at our disposal yet.

[Dinomachino]

Woah, how did you get all those words? I just got 53, but they are the only ones that can be made from the "anagram" and are in the dictionary.:
wander,warden,dewar,drawn,wader,waxen,anew,dare,
darn,dawn,dean,dear,draw,drew,earn,erda,near,read, rend,wade,wand,wane,ward,ware,warn,wear,and,are,aw e,awn,axe,den,dew,dna,ear,end,era,new,ran,raw,red, wad,wan,war,wax,wed,ad,an,ax,ex,we,a

You are only allowing each letter to be used once per word, while letters can actually be used multiple time in the current puzzle.

[Red Falcon]

I really like the words "wanderer" and "rewarded"


also probally nothing but the word >>> wyrd (old english for fate)

[Dinomachino]

I really like the words "wanderer" and "rewarded"


also probally nothing but the word >>> wyrd (old english for fate)

I also like the idea of New Eden or Eden being used to describe Rapture

[Red Falcon]

I also like the idea of New Eden or Eden being used to describe Rapture

I would be surprised if they didn't use Eden.

I'm probally overthinking it but right now I'm pouring over the wiki's for the "The Wanderer" and "The Seafarer" poems.

Maybe I'll find a key word with all the right letters.

[Codex]

I've been plugging away with anagrams, and I just had a brainstorm; what if the solution is a call and answer, ie: the top being the call and the bottom being an answer?

[Red Falcon]

I'm trying to remeber did Ludwig build the box before or after visiting rapture?


Could be important as far as his perception
ie ( something like Eden Dead, Dread, Warn, War.)

[Codex]

I'm trying to remeber did Ludwig build the box before or after visiting rapture?


Could be important as far as his perception
ie ( something like Eden Dead, Dread, Warn.)

It would appear to be after, but we don't know for sure. (I'm 99% certain he constructed the red queen's race after returning from Rapture)

[Red Falcon]

Barring extra clues you gotta think the answer lies some where in the flashing sequences.

Perhaps if the symbol is not flashed then that symbol can be ruled out for that particular spot or vice versa where the letter not pictured IS the correct symbol.

Also why does the last sequence run short?

[Benny Stango]

I think I might be clutching at nothing but this could be going somewhere:

AYNYANEWAW
ERAYNAANNR
NWNANRAANR
NYEYEYEADY
DRANNRDRDY
EANADWRWRW
AARAAYDRRY
AYRYNAANAN
EANNEAAWEW
RWNYEY

EDIT: I am positive this is nothing to do with anything ha.

[ZombieJennifer]

I've tried
"andrew ryan andrew ryan"
"wander nary andrew ryan"
"a new era a new way andrew"
"a weary wanderer warned"

[Aluminus]

I don't know if "reverse engineering" is frowned upon here, so I'll post my findings in spoilers:

The following raw text was extracted from the .swf file:

img=./@3b4fffe8ba9b487dbff343008443c816f5a4cded1e6d4ad86 454070dd7ace446.A.AUTO`AYNYANEWAWERAYNAANNRNWNANRA ANRNYEYEYEADYDRANNRDRDYEANADWRWRWAARAAYDRRYAYRYNAA NANEANNEAAWEWRWNYEY.ArrayTweenInfo.BevelFilter.Bit map.BitmapFilter.BlurFilter.CHEATING.CLICK.CLOSE.C OMPLETE.Class.ColorMatrixFilter.DESCENDING.Diction ary.DropShadowFilter.ENDING.END_REPRISE.ENTER_FRAM E$EndArrayPlugin.as$134:ArrayTweenInfo.Error.GlowF ilter.IEventDispatcher.Loader.MOUSE_OUT.MOUSE_OVER .NET_STATUS.NUMERIC–.NWRWRWARAARWAAAYEANREANARAAYE AAWEAAAAYEADWNANWDYNYAWRWANRYEANRNADRNWEADYNAANDYN REYEANWNWAAAYEANRNYAWANNARNEARWRRAAAYEARYNAEYAANAD RANRAAYRWRRNADRNWEADY.NYDYDYEW.

I will split it into its parts:
img=./@3b4fffe8ba9b487dbff343008443c816f5a4cded1e6d4ad86 454070dd7ace446
^ From examining previous puzzles, I've discovered that this is actually a security string to a PHP authentication page hidden in the website. When you solve the puzzle, the flash file sends an this string to the PHP, which allows you to download the "solution movie". Interestingly, trying to get around these anti-cheating mechanisms leads to a rather funny easter egg which I will post later.

AYNYANEWAWERAYNAANNRNWNANRAANRNYEYEYEADYDRANNRDRDY EANADWRWRWAARAAYDRRYAYRYNAANANEANNEAAWEWRWNYEY
^ This is the first puzzle string

CHEATING
^ LOL they are watching

NWRWRWARAARWAAAYEANREANARAAYEAAWEAAAAYEADWNANWDYNY AWRWANRYEANRNADRNWEADYNAANDYNREYEANWNWAAAYEANRNYAW ANNARNEARWRRAAAYEARYNAEYAANADRANRAAYRWRRNADRNWEADY
^ This is some other string of letters, could be useful

NYDYDYEW
^ These are the keys at the bottom of the puzzle.

[Aluminus]

Here is that thing I mentioned in my previous post:
Go to: somethinginthesea.com/php/auth.php and right-click >view source you will find this:
<script type="text/javascript">
//var messages = ['I\'m watching you.','Stop it, that tickles.'];
</script>

It's a javascript message left just for you, dear hacker!

[Nononick]

I have a little theory of myself:
"...And the seven-fold lock will unfold", as Lutwidge said somewhere.
That lock should now have unfolded. So we're looking at it. We have a large bit of text (the flashed text), maybe we should 'fold'(compress) it seven times in a certain way. Or unfold... to get a question?

I have no idea how, but something tells me this puzzle is the seven-fold lock, so it would have something to do with it.

[BoynamedSuchong]

Since we're exhausting words here, here's another one.

The Aran Islands are located on the west coast of Ireland, nearby Lehinch Beach. Lynch was reported there initially.

[Deljunkee]

Whats Going On!!!!!!!

[Deljunkee]

Me and SuChong have just about the same number of posts.
KEWL!
Seriously though, Iv been away from SITS for a couple days and just completed the 5x5. I'm super confused.

[OMGIt'stheRumbler!!!]

I say just post the code then use different combinations of the seven letters to solve for the missing four until you get it right. It may take a while, but it is worth it isn't it?

[gohoos]

Barring extra clues you gotta think the answer lies some where in the flashing sequences.

Perhaps if the symbol is not flashed then that symbol can be ruled out for that particular spot or vice versa where the letter not pictured IS the correct symbol.

Also why does the last sequence run short?

I was thinking along these lines, too.

(Hi, I'm new here. Been following for a while, not really good with cyphers, but love the story.)

I thought maybe this was just some sort of "simon-says" so I took video of the sequence and played it back before the next sequence started. No dice. (Ah well, it wouldn't be fun to re-use the puzzle from the jewelry box, now would it?)

I think one telling factor is that the last sequence is short. I wonder why?

[Deljunkee]

So I just wrote down all the sequences, now I'm just trying to figure it all out.
Good luck to me ^_^

[Codex]

I think I might be clutching at nothing but this could be going somewhere:

AYNYANEWAW
ERAYNAANNR
NWNANRAANR
NYEYEYEADY
DRANNRDRDY
EANADWRWRW
AARAAYDRRY
AYRYNAANAN
EANNEAAWEW
RWNYEY

EDIT: I am positive this is nothing to do with anything ha.

First off, your name = win. Stango is the best.

Secondly, I tried that last night. There are several lines that have words, but some of them just don't make sense. For example, line four has "Nye eye yea," so unless bill Nye the Science Guy's Eye has something to do with this that may be the wrong path to go down.

[Red Falcon]

Do you think it might be a random symbol sequence opposed to an actual phrase.?

[Codex]

Do you think it might be a random symbol sequence opposed to an actual phrase.?

As in the answer? No, I am not sure I do. Lutwidge has time and again used the flexibility of language (even going so far as to turn language into math and then turnt hat math back into language) to "trick" us and test our knowledge and ability to extrapolate. I don't think the answer will be a random one. I just don't think we have the question yet.

[Bear Is Atlas]

I don't think the answer will be a random one. I just don't think we have the question yet.

I agree. Lutwidge says that once you solve the seven-fold lock, "its lights will lead you through the wreckage." I think solving this puzzle will give us a course through or a means of disabling Rapture's area defense grid, which means we're likely not going to solve it until just before Mark makes the final descent (unless we have to solve a door puzzle -.-). I also wonder if perhaps Mark solved the 5x5, then put to sea when he realized what he had - if he were worried about being watched by a government agency, it'd be reasonable to conclude that they were after the secret to Rapture's defense network, and thus going to sea gets him and the metal box away from them. Well...hopefully away from them...

[joness1992]

Lutwidge said that a gyroscopic sensor will be turned on by completing level three and that the seeker has to be set to sea. Seeing as Mark has not yet got out of the port, I don't think all of the puzzle has been given to us yet.

[GJOk]

I'm just wondering how much more he can physically fit into this box. I mean, this puzzle alone has gotta take up half of the space in that thing!