I horse rush in H2H less than most top players I think. But never doing somthing as obvious as horse rushing is a foolish strategy.Originally Posted by ITZ DENI3D
I horse rush in H2H less than most top players I think. But never doing somthing as obvious as horse rushing is a foolish strategy.
As Teddy Roosevelt would say speak softly and carry a big stick.
My spanish vs Itz Denied arabs.
I walk for 4-5 turns settle next to barb and game 1 grass 1 plain 1 tree get a friendly on the way. Barb ends up being three flagger with game as resource so Two game resources at cap. I get my 100g by 2800 and already have a galleon out. I find i am on big island with delhi across the channel.
Warrior rush delhi. Get bw. Tech iw. Plant 100g city. He gets washington and my 100g city. No tech. I had bw iw hbr and nav he likely gets iw if he gets tech.Single horse shows up and attacks archer 4.5 - 3 and loses. He brings ninja Ha to delhi and gets taken out by legion army 10-6.
I plant archer and a legion army on hill between him and delhi and kill another horse army with legion army.
I expand to a few more cities while amassing 5 legion armies 2 AA and galleon fleet. Take back 100g city.
Bring legions back to fleet move fleet back to delhi. He has a GL in cap. He stays at 4 techs for a long time.
He starts marching 5-6 elite AAs towards me. I beat him to math.
I plant all LAs on the hill. His march AAs camp my trees i kill one with legions and retreat from even CA v AA fight with the other giving it a GG.
I GB EITC. I steal his GL. He starts bringing Cat armies towards me i kill one with march legion army. Get my CA on hill. Start attacking his stack of elite AAs. Win a 33-30 battle. Lose CA in another battle and start raping the AAs with the legions and fleet.
He quits. At that point I was going to have elite pikemen and more cats while i was expanding on the islands.
I played tmac the other day in a ffa and he city collapsed one of my cities and barb glitches so I just quit because I knew if I had attacked him he would freeze it and I don't know how to counter it so I didnt wast my time
I played Rem last night and a barb gobbled up his cap!! ;-)
I was afraid you were going to mention that :-( Happens to the best of us, doesn't it?!
I settler-walked as France, settled 2 tiles away from Washington and right next to an inland barb in 3700 BC without gold. You must have activated the barb in 3600 BC since in 3500 BC it jumped from 1 to 3 and walked right into my nice cathedral!
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Ohh your'e that Aliti guy as well? Practically had just as bad a start as an island start. Started on a long curved peninsula about 25 turns from America so that really sucked not to mention that you and the Russians were on islands so that only left 2 caps for me. Of course you were fairly close to deli so that left only 1
First or second experience with city collapses a guy named ainex came to my cap when i was way ahead this was maybe my second month of playing. I lol inside my head thinking is this guy retarted? So I have like 2 AA's in cap he attacks with warrior army I lose he gets upgraded you don't have to be a genius to realize there's foul play going on. Next turn he attacks AA I lose he gets GG. WTF!!!! So I'm obviously pissed off and very confused so I tell him you're terrible learn how to play legit loser. He sends me "" So yes they can do collapses on AA's. Oh and my first experience with collapsing was with drunkenboxing's Zulu.
Bullcrap. You were no where near 25 turns away from Washington since you took them out around 3000.Ohh your'e that Aliti guy as well? Practically had just as bad a start as an island start. Started on a long curved peninsula about 25 turns from America so that really sucked not to mention that you and the Russians were on islands so that only left 2 caps for me. Of course you were fairly close to deli so that left only 1
That sounds nothing like a city collapse.First or second experience with city collapses a guy named ainex came to my cap when i was way ahead this was maybe my second month of playing. I lol inside my head thinking is this guy retarted? So I have like 2 AA's in cap he attacks with warrior army I lose he gets upgraded you don't have to be a genius to realize there's foul play going on. Next turn he attacks AA I lose he gets GG. WTF!!!! So I'm obviously pissed off and very confused so I tell him you're terrible learn how to play legit loser. He sends me "
Yeah I did just activate the barb. These things can't be helped! That's what amazes me about people's records who have only dropped 1 or 2 games out of 50+ Surely they've been aztec'd/zulu'd or barbed before with nothing much they can do even when settling in place?
Yes I was I took them out at around 2000 I settled around 3000. You took out deli around 3000. You are mistaken.
What is it then cause its some kind of cheat as far as I'm aware you can't beat AA in cap 4.5 to 15 and not take any damage and get upgraded every time.
Actually it was 18 to 4.5 one of my AA's was a veteran.
I'm slowly but surely climbing the ranks again. Jumped to 60 today in H2H and 83 in FFA was 101 and 111 yesterday. My record had gotten erased for some reason.
My first ranked game after reset I got culture victory and Winston Churchill rank so for a while it said my favorite victory was culture lol.
A city collapse has an overrun effect. You lose the battle and the city regardless if you have more units in the city.
Played my China v. Zulu. Decided not to get greedy and only moved one turn to claim three trees. Two friendlies, but one of them vets my warrior—BAH! Zulu takes two AIs and the lion's share of the gold including one of my barbs. I think the only barb I got gave me a spy. Ended up selling all my units to reach 100g—after which I formed another two WAs on hills for defense.
Expanded to 6 cities and then started teching. Hammered out a vet CA and AA that netted a tasty 5 pop with library and EITC.
I get Oxford bombers and attack one of his cities with an AA and WA underneath. The game freezes. I could only do three things: check my gold/sci pop up, scroll through the three units that I was attacking from, and exit to the PS3 XMB. Player freeze or game glitch?
i take it no pause message came up 1st? it could have been a glitch, or a lag out from inactivity. had he been ending his turns normally prior to that, or running out the clock?
No pause message. Everything seemed normal. If it happened at any other time, I wouldn't think much of it.
By the way, after about a 10 minute wait, I got the Dom win screen, so he must have quit out. Probably just the glitchy game acting up again.
Yes, the game is more likely to freeze as your opponent frantically tries to rush units to defend at the same time you're attacking. That's why freezes always are so suspicious, even when they aren't. We can't say with absolute certainty this guy didn't freeze you on purpose, but it sounds more like an unintentional freeze to me.
Well I don't know what that is then I thought that was a city collapse. What is it then an undefeatable warrior glitch wtf???
apparently its whenever i attack the ai 3-2.5.
had a fun game last night. it was ffa but i'll post it here since they all turn into h2h anyways. it was my english vs doody man's japan, america, china, and zulu ai. i started on a wierd skinny island. about 15 squares long, and never more than 2 wide. my southern path was blocked by the ark of all things. my only barb gave my hbr. i hammered a galley (on the wrong side i found out) and dropped off a single horse up north on the mainland. it looked pretty bleak, except that america settled the gp and china was teching only so so as we hit 1000 bc. i would have been out of this game but for america getting 7 cities and squandering it on buildings. i parked my vet horse 2 squares from their 100 g city and waited to bring 2 more horses over to complete the set. they had only a warrior there, and a granary with 4 plains. he quit and china soon folllowed suit. i took a zulu city with the horses, while i sent a spy and militia to washington. i took his gh and saw only a warrior there too. my horses (now with blitz) made it back just in time to take it before they got an AA (got a library, granary, and workshop this time). i then flipped a 6 pop chinese city and took another zulu city. i rushed 3 quick settlers out of the plains city and settled nice dye islands. looking pretty good, except japan is now teching far ahead of me. i get a gb for eitc, but they still get the good bonuses like inv., steam, indust, railroad. i'm doing almost 400 a turn after rushing some libraries with overflow gold. i manage to snag the corp bonus, and i see a cruiser fleet steaming towards london. i have a good amount of gold and hammers, so i can form my own fleet to protect it with double support. he then gets oxford for bombers. i'm not afraid, even though i haven't started on combust. yet. i use 2 cruiser fleets to frustrate him with hit and runs, while stalling his attacks with single riflemen. he uses a gs on flight to obsolete eitc. i get it next turn and the skies are full of planes. i snagged atlantis, but only got steel, communism, and tricity. he messaged me that he had been camping it and got distracted by all the fighting. in the end i took 3 of his cities, holding 2. he took none of mine. i decided to go for space, as we both seemed to be teching and earning gold at a similar pace. my naval dominance would have prevailed, but his lack of anarchy and elite defenders would make war costly. he finally quit and i got some much needed sleep. with all our advanced war it was still over by 1600 ad.
Even the AI isn't this clueless about how to play the game. If this game had started as H2H, you wouldn't have done as well.
So did you take the ark with one city?
Sounds like it was a fun one. I'd like to have a game go to space once. Mine are usually over with bombers, and even that's pretty rare. But then, it's been so long, I probably wouldn't know the best way to get the thing launched. Let's see... fuel doesn't matter as much as the propulsion thingys, right? ...four of those?
you got it, 4 pro-pulsion. i had to take the ark with just london. i couldn't see what was south of it, and i needed to get some gold (none was there).
I went with the zulu vs a guy that has only used zulu or aztec against me. He went aztec.
I move settler east and onto a hill. Spot two friendlies and net 50g. Settle at 3500 see american blue outline to the east. Attack at 3300 with warrior army. Do not get the city till 1900 bc as the americans have an unlimited supply of warriors apparently. I end up with 3 elite impi armies. Meanwhile he gets kyoto around 2700. H gets the ark a few turns later after having his 100g.
I get a galley from a barb and spot his HA headed toward washington. I kill it with an impi army netting a GG. I take a mongolian barb city and take a regular mongol city the turn it is settled and build a galley the.next turn as AW is 4 turns south. Take karakorum after switching to fundy.
Built a barracks in my cap and put together one more impi army and two horsearmies. I switch to republic and the turn after he obsoletes it. Build 4 settlers then 2 libraries. Backfill into medieval, settle new cities, pop a GH, and tech math theb start working towards religion.. I had camped 4 impi armies and the two horse armies on a hill between my territory and kyoto. He flips my 100g city then i see an AA step out of kyoto followed by a knight army and then another knight army two turns later. He moves his units next to my hill. I kill the AA 15-6 with my HA then kill a knight army with a horse army 15-9 and he quits.
So the mongols are #1 in H2H. I think thats pretty cool
awesome that must be akahb or akabh, whats also cool about that guy is hes never refused a rank game against me even tho he usually loses
I have been doing random in ffa the last 7 games and the last 3 in a row I got arabs anyone else ever random the same team 3 games in a row
Well, here's a first for me. My Spain v. Japan. At 3500, I come to the German AI blocking my way. With no gold, I have to head back to some trees and settle. First warrior goes out and finds a barb. I see another barb disappear two tiles away. Then the German AI moves next to my cap and declares war on me! My first warrior gets some gold so I rush a warrior in my cap. Next turn, I lose the 1.5 even odds—game over. Has the AI become self aware? What is going on? Is Germany more agressive in some situations because they are vet?
I got mongols three times in a row doing random for first three times I ever did random. So yes it happens.
My Aztecs v. Romans. I have an archer in my cap and my HA is attacking the Zulu when I get a notice that the Romans have taken my cap. I run my militia over there and my archer is still in the cap. There was no battle screen. He had a galley over there with the KT. There's no way you can GA flip a cap is there? So what happened? City collapse?
What do you mean your archer was still in the city?
You can't be 'city collapsed' if you only have one unit anyway. If you are on an attack, there is every chance you just missed the other battle.
I meant that if he flipped my cap, my archer was still there—but I don't think you can do that.
Maybe he rushed an archer quickly. I have never seen my city get taken without a battle screen.
Maybe he brought an archer with his troops and put it in the city before you were able to see with your militia.
If you are in combat and the other player start an other combat at the same time, you won't see the combat animation...
I have never witnessed city collapse before but had a game last night where I was being attacked by a knight army in some peripheral cities which all had fortified single pikes in them (around 5 each). He certainly didn't have overrun figures but was taking a city after one attack. (Is this City collapse?) Regardless they were meaningless cities and I soon overpowered him with tanks and battleships till he quit.
Well, I've never seen that, but there's always a first time—that must be it. Thanks.
Went in the chat room today. There was only TonyW and mario009.
I couldn't connect with Tony so I played 2 against mario.
First german against india. I had him with a march WA by killing his HA at Tripoli which I got first for fundy.
Next against his egypt col wiht my roman. i win a button rush HA vs HA for the game...
All my game are like this when both player move settlers.
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