UK XBOX World Magazine Info

[TheParasite]

I don't know if it has been posted or not but this is the information from the UK XBOX World Magazine :

On Multiplayer:

-The Audio diary of when Diane McClintock is sitting in Kashmir Restaurant and there is an explosion is when the Rapture civil war is begun.

- That third secret multiplayer mode may or may not be a capture the flag (Capture the little sister) type of mode.

-Some walls during multiplayer may be breakable depending which weapon you have with enough kick to do so.

-When you pick up the Rosie upgrade, your health doesn't regenerate.(Thats probably something obvious)

- Quote from the magazine:"We're informed that additional DLC is a strong possibility to boost post-launch."

-Sawed-off variation of the shotgun.

-Confirmed: You can electrify Geyser Trap.

-You can put Geyser Trap on walls.

-Only 1 Rosie suit at a time during any match.

-When someone picks up the Rosie suit you will know due to the classic pissed off Rosie wail that rings out through the halls.

-You can hack vending machines to shock enemies when they try to get some EVE.

-Flying Security Bots will NOT be in multiplayer because of the added chaos that would lead to frustration and the game going from fun to aggravating.

-Winter Blast slows down instead of freezing.

-Electro-Bolt last one to two seconds but thats more than enough time to give your foe a good amount of damage.

-Multiplayer uses COD type challenges like Accumulate 10 winter blast kills or 5 Winter Blast and melee combo kills for a nice chunk of extra Adam.

-Also like COD, a message will pop-up when a challenge is completed.



On Singleplayer:

-Jordan Thomas Confirmed that Big Daddies and Splicers aren't the only people in rapture. Quote from the article: "Also roaming the city's halls are lost souls in need of rescue. You can bind people together via your helmet camera when they cant physically see each other, then rescue them and decide how you work with them."

-The last question reveals what people have been speculation about for awhile now, Quoted: We asked Jordan about the game's logo which, with barnacles and butterflies, hints at Rapture's rise to the surface. "People always read too much into everything" he chuckles. "That said it does NOT mean the butterfly was meaningless by any stretch."

-Other than the usual Harvest or Don't Harvest choices, other factors will count towards the type of ending you're headed to and close to the end you will get to see ahead at the type of person you are becoming.

-When you're fighting a big daddy and die, his health will regenerate.

-You can use Incinerate!3 to burn down objects in your way and open up hidden locations.

Not alot of OMG info but it's still info nevertheless.

[Kyburz]

Wow, great info! Thanks so much for posting.

So did they imply that the Gatherer's Flu is now canon? *THAT* is OMG info, IMO.

[vitiis]

Excellent Thanks so much.

[Boatservice]

Lol not a lot of "OMG info". This is OMG info in my opinion. Geyser with electro bolt sounds awesome. Thanks for this.

[the Riveter]

I don't quite understand what it means by "using your camera to guide lost souls?" Like, humans or ghosts? (I thought the "ghosts" were just a side effect of ADAM). And how would a camera do that?
"Bind"??

[PoeticMadnesss]

I don't quite understand what it means by "using your camera to guide lost souls?" Like, humans or ghosts? (I thought the "ghosts" were just a side effect of ADAM). And how would a camera do that?
"Bind"??

the "ghosts" actually seem to be imprints of the past due to the effects of ADAM...maybe its possible that since you're the first big daddy, you're the most spliced up being alive, and you're able to interact with them?

whoa. this brings up a whole new idea in relation to the time travel ideas pertaining to BioShock 2.

[Boatservice]

I don't quite understand what it means by "using your camera to guide lost souls?" Like, humans or ghosts? (I thought the "ghosts" were just a side effect of ADAM). And how would a camera do that?
"Bind"??

Uh I think it's citizens of Rapture who are hiding from splicers. I have no idea what they are talking about when they refer to the camera. Maybe they mean the flashlight and you help them escape from splicers?

[LittleSisterSaviour]

Thank You For This New Info pal!
DLC YAY

[the Riveter]

Maybe by "bind" they meant the Big Daddy can record other survivers with the camera and help the unspliced people communicate with each other without getting in harms way of the splicers.

[xXMINTY DEATHXx]

the "ghosts" actually seem to be imprints of the past due to the effects of ADAM...maybe its possible that since you're the first big daddy, you're the most spliced up being alive, and you're able to interact with them?

whoa. this brings up a whole new idea in relation to the time travel ideas pertaining to BioShock 2.

Or it just means there are normal people dying and you can help them.

[Cohen's prodigy]

or maybe you take pictures of the normies to prove to other normies that there are other normies then you can bring them together to fight the splicers that would be awesome

[MegaScience]

-They talk about that one little sister in the Gatherer's Flu removed audio diary(They're all dying, for months they're fine and then POOF! And from what? Influenza. *scoff* The god damned flu. The little things are virtually indestructible, a bullet - they heal. Fire - they heal. But if they catch the bug - boom, they're gone in days. Something about the implantation process. Only one of them remains, she must be resist to this particular strain. This one little girl, one set of genes. Even if all the others die, it will be enough to save the program from extinction.
) and say "Mystery solved? Probably..."

This struck me. I was hoping they'd put this audio diary to some use in BioShock 2, but never expected it. I wonder if it will actually tie into the story of the game in any tight fashion.

I'm expecting the Big Sister to be that girl. She was experimented on to find how she was resistant, which caused her more torment then even normal Little Sisters. She was reconditioned for proper use, and this conditioning also left her insane after being saved. Longing for the life she was conditioned to believe in, she returns and blah blah.

-Jordan Thomas Confirmed that Big Daddies and Splicers aren't the only people in rapture. Quote from the article: "Also roaming the city's halls are lost souls in need of rescue. You can bind people together via your helmet camera when they cant physically see each other, then rescue them and decide how you work with them."

You probably record them and can transmit the video to others. Since your not with the others, they can only talk through the radio, but... Wireless live video feeds so early in time? Rapture sure was advanced!

-You can use Incinerate!3 to burn down objects in your way and open up hidden locations.

Worked the same in BioShock 1, except that was for melting ice. I wonder if there are negative effects to burning the world around you, now.

-Only 1 Rosie suit at a time during any match.

The original article stating about the suits mentioned "the suit" and it was assumed that more then one suit could get abusive.

-Confirmed: You can electrify Geyser Trap.

Been known.

-Winter Blast slows down instead of freezing.

Been known

[Kyburz]

Can you clarify the quote about Gatherer's Flu from the article Parasite?

[TheParasite]

Can you clarify the quote about Gatherer's Flu from the article Parasite?

There really isn't much about it. Right now im thinking its the article writer speculating. Jordan says "Remember that in Bioshock, Tenenbaum had a safehouse of the saved, reguardless of what choices you made. Our Big Sister comes from that fiction." when he was asked about it. Then the rest was the full transcript of the Gatherer's Flu diary and at the end its Mystery Solved? Probably..

I think i should take that off since its not a solid fact.

[Ureh]

The Audio diary of when Diane McClintock is sitting in Kashmir Restaurant and there is an explosion is when the Rapture civil war is begun.

Huh? I was under the impression that the Civil War started before that... maybe when the interrogations, public hangings and minor crackdowns occured. If not, I am very sure it started after Fontaine was "killed" in a fiery shoot-out, during 9/21/58. He was viewed as a martyr by the working class. I know it's just a few months apart, but I don't think we can disregard past events just because there were no major epic battles.

[TheParasite]

Huh? I was under the impression that the Civil War started before that... maybe when the interrogations, public hangings and minor crackdowns occured. If not, I am very sure it started after Fontaine was "killed" in a fiery shoot-out, during 9/21/58. He was viewed as a martyr by the working class. I know it's just a few months apart, but I don't think we can disregard past events just because there were no major epic battles.

I should rephrase that, Its when the first bombing happens which is basically the flame that ignites the gun powder which leads up to the all out war. The direct quote being: " Diane McClintock waits for her lover and founder of rapture, Andrew Ryan. Speaking into her Accu-Vox she rue's Ryan's work in hephaestus and prepares for another lonesome new year's toast. And then she witnesses the unthinkable. The first bombing of what would soon be many, and the ignition of Rapture's civil war.

[MegaScience]

Kyburz, if you decompress BioShock 1's audio archives, in one of the non-level specific folders, there will be an audio diary never used in the game. In it, Tenenbaum describes that the Gather's were all dieing from the flu, and the last remaining one seemed to be immune. This may not have been used because people may find flaw in why so many Little Sisters exist. Although you can just say that Tenenbaum experimented and solved the problem.

Huh? I was under the impression that the Civil War started before that... maybe when the interrogations, public hangings and minor crackdowns occurred. If not, I am very sure it started after Fontaine was "killed" in a fiery shoot-out, during 9/21/58. He was viewed as a martyr by the working class. I know it's just a few months apart, but I don't think we can disregard past events just because there were no major epic battles.

The civil war started with Kashmir and other select places. That's where Fontaine did major attacks which began to destabilize society in Rapture.

[PoeticMadnesss]

I find it hard to believe that the civil war began that night...Actually, I'm almost 100% positive that it didn't begin that night. That was the night that "Splicers" were first seen. Before then, they were just normal people who had plasmids and whatnot, like Jack. The reason I believe this is because of the word usage in a few of the wiki pages (too lazy to search for them), but they said that that was the first time the crazed Splicers were seen.

There were probably skirmishes around Rapture before then, miniature battles and whatnot, but no large-scale warfare. Evidence of this is the shootout with Fontaine -- I believe that this shootout should be considered the first battle of the Civil War. I don't remember the date but I think someone said it earlier in the posts, just look up. The creation of Jack also shows planning on the part of Fontaine, which means the war had lasted for 2 years, seeing as how Jack was created AT LEAST two years before the game begins.

The war then lasted for the few years and Jack showed up.

Therefore; Kashmir Restaraunt WAS NOT the beginning of the war: It couldn't have been. Yes, Fontaine probably foresaw the war breaking out, which caused him to act beforehand and make the necessary plans. But this just further proves the point that the war started with minor skirmishes around Rapture. Fontaine wouldn't have prepared so extensively without having reason; the skirmishes being the reason.

In the end, this makes me believe that Ryan won the war overall. Yes, he died in the end...But he got what he wanted. His goal was to keep Rapture going and defeat Fontaine. Ryan had full control of Rapture, while Fontaine needed an assassin to finish off the job. Ryan won in my eyes.

And that's the end of my rant.

[brendensavi]

I think the first large scale attack of the civil war might have been in Kashmir, and before that Fontaine was just preparing for the war in secret using his businesses. I wish the audio diaries had dates, it would make this much easier to figure out.

[TheParasite]

Still alot of damage can be done to a city in a year.

[PoeticMadnesss]

Still alot of damage can be done to a city in a year.

Yeah, but you also have to take into account that people still have to survive. Eating, sleeping, etc. It was a gradual decline. A lot can be done in a year, but not enough to bring Rapture to the state that we found it in.

[Cohen's prodigy]

the reason Ryan basically won in the end because he used pheramones to control the splicers

[PoeticMadnesss]

the reason Ryan basically won in the end because he used pheramones to control the splicers

He still won =P

[Kyburz]

Kyburz, if you decompress BioShock 1's audio archives, in one of the non-level specific folders, there will be an audio diary never used in the game. In it, Tenenbaum describes that the Gather's were all dieing from the flu, and the last remaining one seemed to be immune. This may not have been used because people may find flaw in why so many Little Sisters exist. Although you can just say that Tenenbaum experimented and solved the problem.

I am aware of this, as far as I know, i was the one who originally discovered it actually, lol.

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21963

[Ureh]

The civil war started with Kashmir and other select places. That's where Fontaine did major attacks which began to destabilize society in Rapture.

I think he was already destabilizing Rapture society with all the smuggling and ADAM production he was carrying out. And some people actually consider precursors to the major battles part of the war, for if there were no precursors/causes for the battles to start, there would be no war.

And back at Tenenbaum's Safehouse, there was a LS inside her sealed/locked room (proves Tenenbaum doesn't really trust Jack...yet). Maybe the LS was just a sick person at the time? or could it be that that was the future BS who was displaying a lot of problems during her adolescence so Tenenbaum cut her off from the rest of the LS?

[MegaScience]

I am aware of this, as far as I know, i was the one who originally discovered it actually, lol.

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21963

Well, I don't think you were the first...

IAnd back at Tenenbaum's Safehouse, there was a LS inside her sealed/locked room (proves Tenenbaum doesn't really trust Jack...yet). Maybe the LS was just a sick person at the time? or could it be that that was the future BS who was displaying a lot of problems during her adolescence so Tenenbaum cut her off from the rest of the LS?

I find, and I'm sure others think, too, that that Little Sister was just one Tenenbaum was working on to remove mental conditioning. I never thought anything special that you happen to wake up when one if them was in there. Now, if she always kept that exact one in there, then it could be suspicious.

[Ureh]

Well, I don't think you were the first...

Maybe the first to post on the forums?

I find, and I'm sure others think, too, that that Little Sister was just one Tenenbaum was working on to remove mental conditioning. I never thought anything special that you happen to wake up when one if them was in there. Now, if she always kept that exact one in there, then it could be suspicious.

Wasn't it Tenenbaum who said only time can undo the mental conditioning? I thought I remember hearing her say it or reading it from somewhere but now I can't remember where. Maybe she thought she could do undo it? Or she was just kidding herself even though she already knew only time can do what she was cannot?

[chocolatesbetterthangrape]

"-The last question reveals what people have been speculation about for awhile now, Quoted: We asked Jordan about the game's logo which, with barnacles and butterflies, hints at Rapture's rise to the surface. "People always read too much into everything" he chuckles. "That said it does NOT mean the butterfly was meaningless by any stretch."

I've been thinking about this and wondered if there was any relation between slugs (Adam slugs) and butterflies. Indeed, sea slugs are often referred to as "sea butterflies". Just a small, perhaps meaningless, fact.

[Ureh]

I've been thinking about this and wondered if there was any relation between slugs (Adam slugs) and butterflies. Indeed, sea slugs are often referred to as "sea butterflies". Just a small, perhaps meaningless, fact.

Nice. I didn't know that. Maybe there is a connection that'll be revealed.
And thanks for sharing.