Strange character decisions...

[Nuro]

I'm inspired to write this, after realising there was some truth in a post on Gamefaqs Bioshock messageboard.

Tiptop3 said:

Anyone else think the way he got down into Rapture is INCREDIBLY stupid?

I mean, you get into a plane crash, it would be ok if you just sit on the steps and wait for rescue, but venturing deeper AND DEEPER into this unfamilier building then take a submarine into this massive city. And don't get me started on the plasmids "LOL LETS STAB MYSELF WITH THE FIRST NEEDLZ I FIND LOLOLOL"

I've got to say that final bit made me laugh. Even I wasn't expecting to just stab myself when I clicked on the strange glowing item that was my first plasmid.

Although there haven't been any other incidents like this in the demo, I can't stop thinking about how strange the initial plasmid use is now. Why would anyone wander into a strange underwater city, right after a plane crash and proceed to stab themselves with an odd looking needle?

For the record I love the demo, can't wait for the game and I actually thought everything else about the opening sequence was extremely cinematic and original, I loved it, but man that's a weird thing to do...

[darkrei9n]

Well he probably went down because he needed food to survive. Hes in the middle of nowhere. I would do pretty much anything to survive. I would shove a needle in my arm, my eye, pretty much anywhere to survive.

[BioShockWins]

Anyone else think that it was "INCREDIBLEY STUPID" That throughout all of the orriginal Halo, everything you do means sh-- because you blow the darn place to peices anyway?

Seriously guys, it's a game. I've heard from a reviewer on GamesRadar that the ending was even lacking. But for once, in this game I won't be playing for only the story line. From what I've seen; Every battle is a different storyline in and of itself.

[Undying Zombie]

yea that dose seem a bit funny..

I have not played it myself as I am a PC gamer and do not own a xbox360.

Seems kinda like the story is B grade... or like one of those bad books that have chars doing stuff that makes no sense.

Hope those two things are the only things that make no sense.

[Nuro]

I'm not saying the game is bad or anything, it just seems like a very strange oversight to not have Atlas at least mention what the needle does. It's like if I walked into a hospital, picked up some random medicine and started shovelling it into my mouth for no good reason. It's just... strange.

[BioShockWins]

Well he probably went down because he needed food to survive. Hes in the middle of nowhere. I would do pretty much anything to survive. I would shove a needle in my arm, my eye, pretty much anywhere to survive.

Indeed
If we're talking from a deprived resource person, he just nearley drowned. You'd be pretty screwed up in the head too if that happened to you.

Anyone ever been severley dehidrated and had heatstroke? Trust me, it's happened to me before. If I was in his posistion, the first person to tell me to grab a syringe and stab it in my arm, I'd do it*. (Assuming the shock he went through is traumatic on the same level as me. I doubt he was dehidrated etc)

*That's assuming I had all the symptoms before, and then crashed, and wound up in the lighthouse. Went down hearing that stuff. And seeing someone die. Somebody tells me I'm more likley to survive/avoid getting my spleen ripped out like Johnny, I'm probably going to listen to.

[Cataclypso]

Yeah but I think I would hsve asked what the hell the syringe did before jabing it into my arm.

[Nuro]

Indeed
If we're talking from a deprived resource person, he just nearley drowned. You'd be pretty screwed up in the head too if that happened to you.

Anyone ever been severley dehidrated and had heatstroke? Trust me, it's happened to me before. If I was in his posistion, the first person to tell me to grab a syringe and stab it in my arm, I'd do it*. (Assuming the shock he went through is traumatic on the same level as me. I doubt he was dehidrated etc)

*That's assuming I had all the symptoms before, and then crashed, and wound up in the lighthouse. Went down hearing that stuff. And seeing someone die. Somebody tells me I'm more likley to survive/avoid getting my spleen ripped out like Johnny, I'm probably going to listen to.

I agree, but I don't remember anyone actually telling you to do it in Bioshock, which is what I find the strangest of all. I might of missed it but I could've sworn it wasn't in there.

[BioShockWins]

I'm not saying the game is bad or anything, it just seems like a very strange oversight to not have Atlas at least mention what the needle does. It's like if I walked into a hospital, picked up some random medicine and started shovelling it into my mouth for no good reason. It's just... strange.

That's the only thing that dissapoints me. As I've said, it there was explination, I'd deffinatley do it. But just randomley finding one? I think that the recording that plays of the Little Sister's voice is supposed to make you want to use it. Maybe if the recording at least waited until you were up the stairs looking at the machine. Then it would sound like. "Oh! This machine will make me powerful! I probably need this power to go on!" etc.

[Nuro]

That's the only thing that dissapoints me. As I've said, it there was explination, I'd deffinatley do it. But just randomley finding one? I think that the recording that plays of the Little Sister's voice is supposed to make you want to use it. Maybe if the recording at least waited until you were up the stairs looking at the machine. Then it would sound like. "Oh! This machine will make me powerful! I probably need this power to go on!" etc.

Yeah. I spent so long looking around that I didn't really think about the recording until after I'd used it.

[Aftrthought051]

whatever, its a game. Just tell urself that Atlas told you to stick that needle in ur arm so that u could go further on. Have fun. Concern urself more w/ the plot to come involving the decay of rapture, the purpose of atom, and Ryan's true goals. So what if the heroin junkie tried to get a fix from the first needle that he found, he's destined for great things.

[yodashins]

Ya, it is odd that you automatically shoot up... tho, you don't really have a means to progress in the game or the city, without shorting out the door, which requires the plasmid I'd have preferred some narrative prior to using the needle.

Also, it would have been another great moral dilemma..do I start using this stuff that has everyone tweaked out down here? or should I stay clean, and try to get thru this without risking being a splicer... it'd be a moral question, just like dealing with the little sisters...


That all said, one has to assume there are game progressions which require plasmids, and therefore, the developers gave us this little nudge at the beginning....

No complaints here, bring on the gene splicing! I want to throw flaming teddy bears now!

[BioShockWins]

But that negates the main moral question. You'd just be passing go, and not collecting two hundred dollars, etc.

[yodashins]

But that negates the main moral question. You'd just be passing go, and not collecting two hundred dollars, etc.

it would certainly make me less inclined to rampantly kill little sisters, good point.

[Poseidon]

That is my only major cripe so far. Anyone know if it's different in the final game?

[lukehenke]

maybe he only went in the sphere because he thought "bathysphere" was a bath, or like a human car wash, and maybe he injected himself with the first needle he found is because he's a druggy.

but seriously i would rather play a game where the guy goes down into rapture for no great reason, then a game where i sit outside a lighthouse and wait for a rescue boat or sumtin!!!

[Ruster]

No dude, he saw the trailers for bioshock. He was all like, "Superpowah?! Hell YEAH!"
Concerning the instant injection notion, it didn't really catch me as "off". But I cook up breakfast in a spoon, so what do I know?

[akratch]

lol man when i first saw that scene i laughed myself out of my chair b/c i remembered this one time my friend was singing that song "shoot it up" at like 3 in the morning and almost got permabanned from my house. too damn funny.

[Ruster]

Permabanned? From your home? As in your mother would kick him out? Permabanned? You just blew my mind. Im only 19, and I feel like "I've lost touch". Permabanned? Holy ☺☺☺☺, when I was a kid, we played outside and had rock fights. Now they get techno savvy on forums.

[heroinmonkey]

Actually, when you learn the full storyline and everything gets revealed.
EVERY decision made has been well thought out and creates a great story.
It may not make sense now, but it will when you've beat the game.

Will you kindly not flame me for this vague answer.

[Vertigo RT]

Ah yes, the good ol' days of rock fights...

[Spudnik123]

Well see society today is trying to supresse any and all violent actions us kids have today. So instead of expressing our anger through "relatively safe ways" we just build it up inside of us so that one day we can snap. This gives the hypocritical politicians an issue to cover up more important issues (did you know there's a war going on and more than half of the country doesn't have health care?) It also allows media ☺☺☺☺☺s like Jack thompson to take every adavatage of the situation.

not sure if this needs a spoiler tag. It's not really a spoiler and won't tuin the game but some people might not like to hear it.

Oh and by the way someone said in another topic that why you injected that needle so quickly will be explained.

[chickenlover13x]

actually if you pay close attention it would seem more like out of curiosity to jab that needle in because of the LS voice marketing of the gathers garden

[Melkir]

Yeah, I can't believe the character chose to use the RT for swinging, there is no way I'd go down into a freaky water world and pick the bumper to switch my abilities.... but needles, I'm into those.