In the E3 Trailer and all the recent gameplay videos, there is a small problem.
If the mission is set in February 1945 (The battle of Iwo Jima just happened), then why is it, when the 'Fatman" pulls up, one of the cars is a 1948 Cadillac. I pondered this, and think it is such a small problem among an ocean of historical perfection. I though you should know..
E3 Trailer: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/69...3-Trailer.html
What if it was a 1945 Cadillac?
nice spot!
however i think that some of the cars are not set to specific dates in Mafia but just a 1940's group and a 1950's group
i think it is not problem because cars are not licensed
i agree, and who here really cares!!...I mean REALLY?..Originally Posted by Henry Tomasino
Well It certainly LOOKS like a 48' Cadillac :
https://www.gmphotostore.com/images/53218146_th.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ter68Front.jpg
but who really cares about the little details like that
it's nice man!!!
I don't care about stuff like that, but if there aint gonna be a streep club, I'll really go nuts.
You should go back to GTA then.
That screenshot from Mafia II is first of all ancient, and second of all (going by the currently implemented seasons in each act) set in the 50s. A 1948 cadillac in the 50s shouldn't be that surprising and like Henry said, they're not real cars, just based on real ones.
None of these cars are real life cars. They are all unique models to Mafia II. You may notice similarities between cars, but that car is not actually a 1948 Cadillac. Thus, we are accurate to Empire Bay.In the E3 Trailer and all the recent gameplay videos, there is a small problem.
If the mission is set in February 1945 (The battle of Iwo Jima just happened), then why is it, when the 'Fatman" pulls up, one of the cars is a 1948 Cadillac. I pondered this, and think it is such a small problem among an ocean of historical perfection. I though you should know..
E3 Trailer: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/69...3-Trailer.html
Well I know It's not a liscensed car, but I fits along the lines of a 1948 Car, and a few later ones (A little influence from a 54' Imperial, and has quite a few made up features) . I know late 40's Car wouldn't be rare in the 50's, but a 1948 car would be a little out of place in 1945, as I really would be quite a bit ahead of its time. And to awnser another question, I care about little details like that.
It's not like the game constantly notifies you what year it is. Does it even matter really?
I'm much more worried about cars blowing up too fast
Didn't you know? He's driving the prototype
It's not that the game notifies you what year it is, but if you saw those 2 gameplay videos, the one had a newscast on Iwo Jima, which was invaded in February of 1945, placing the time period there. The car and it's overall apearence seem out of place in 1945. all the other cars are at least 7 years older, and it kind of messes up the fiction...
It's our fictional car in our own fiction. It fits perfectly!
Even though Its fictional, It doesn't fit the time very well. A 1950ish fictional car doesn't quite fit perfectly in a 1945 setting.......Oh well. I can't seem to find anyone who cares about such a stupid little detail.
We do care about the details, and the team looked into stuff like this very carefully. You have to think about it in context of the time, the people... A lot more than just saying "that car looks newer/nicer/more modern than others around it."
I'm not trying to sway your opinion about the car -- you can dislike it, of course, I just want to reassure you that the team thought about stuff like this. They pay close attention to details like this and their decisions are made for a reason!
Well in Back to The Future there was 58 Edsel and the movie took place in 55 and it looks like nobody did mind that
I would rather be interesed in 3 cars to be seen in Mafia 2 , fictional of course
- Bolt Thrower , this was a 50's car in the originalgame
- something resembeling a black 48 Ford Convertable
- and something resembeling the silver time machine
Oh please stop crying about a car. It's fictional and a mixture of all types of cars. Who cares if it looks like a 1948 car instead of a 1945?? Ha! And like a lot of people said alraedy, it's fictional, nothing is licensed. And it doesn't seem out of place for 999 of 1000 people who saw the movie. It looks like the 40s-50s so it's good for me.
Hashshashin: I'm not crying. I'm just saying I looks a bit out of place. Besides, I can't help if a'm one in a thousand.
Alex1911: It's not quite the same thing...Oh and the black convertibleish thing is a 48' Lincoln Continentalsh thing.
2K Elizabeth: I'm not trying to nitpick, It's just my nature. The car has styling ques just not in tune with the era - I don't think it fits. No one seems to care about accuracy to that much of a point but me, so It seems like even paying that much attention or spending the time on research just to be left stranded against an army of "Why does it matter" or "It's so stupid you noticed" type-people is a big waste of time. Granted you have been way more personable then that - kind in fact. But it doesn't seem to bother anyone else but me - I guess I'm just striving for to much perfection. The same thing happened In Mafia, with both guns and cars - But I must be the only one to notice or care about such things. I thank you for your time - I must be an annoyance on par with vito to you.
Just so you are not alone, It bothers me as well. This post could arguably contradict the previous statements.
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=48
I see where 2K Elizabeth is coming from, but... meh. Nevermind. The game is close to finished, and we are but humble fans. I will buy the game regardless. Maybe a true fan will create a mod one day? 2K needs to make money, and they are not going to redesign the game this late to fix a few minor errors just for 998 out of 1,000 people.
Aww...you screwed up my one in a thousand joke. But seriously, I'm glad someone cares about this - I don't like being alone. (It's frightening!)
I figure It wouldn't be edited in the final game - most late problems aren't as It's to much hassle - I just think It should be known.
it's not an error.... or a problem, the cars, like a lot of things in Mafia are fictional, but based on real examples from the 40's & 50's.and they are not going to redesign the game this late to fix a few minor errors just for 998 out of 1,000 people.
it would be an error if they were licensed but.......
The cars of Mafia II will be ahead of their time.
Well maybe not a error, but It wouldn't fit in the 1945 setting, too many postwar features - every car in 1945 was a prewar car or a brand-new prewar car with updated chrome. New designs didn't come until 1948 at the earliest.
If you want a strip club so badly, why dont you just visit one real life instead.. much nicer then seeing it in a game..
He can't because he's saving up to buy Mafia II so he can go to an ingame strip club!
It's a catch 22, duh!
i like that they put a 1948 car in a 1945 setting makes it look like the guys you are trieng to kill are rich and actually represent something unlike some bums. Even though in the trealer the guy says he is just a small timer its still cool for them to have rich and more advanced/laxury cars.
I'm not trying to nitpick, but saying it doesn't fit in with the era is stupid.
I would never have thought that people can complain about such things.
This is so redicoules....
maybe it was a 46 caddy... since models are named a year before release and that 48 caddy was one actually purchased in 48. there is never an extreme amount of difference between body styles within 2 years. i mean maybe but not likely, especially back then.
This thread serves the purpose of letting the developers know how knowledgeable some of the fans are ... but a fiction covers a lot of such things.
I don't remember in Mafia 1 where i felt that OK this is 1935 so things should be like this ... i was always influenced by the relative passage of time instead of discrete and precise years etc. and it all looked solid ...
Who cares? They may look like the cars, but they arnt based off them because they dont have the license to name the game's cars after real cars. Its not a racing game, its a Mafia game. Car names are the least of my worries, honestly.
key_lime_17: The oppisite is true. Cars were changed much faster then in modern times. Cars would fall out of date if they didn't have a slight restlye every year and a new body every 2-3 years. Only independent companies had long-time body bodies - the american recond in the fifties was packard body which lasted 6 years, and the 55' was changed as much as would allow. And, not to mention, the car would'nt have been a 46 cadillac seeing as it was February of 1945 - the 1946 cars wouldn't have been released for another 7-8 months! And a 1940-1947 caddilac dosen't look like that.
To end your argument:
A 1946 Cadillac: http://www.pevomuc.de/100-Cadillac/P...edanet1946.jpg
A 1948 Caddillac: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6iDM59yCBk...2BCadillac.jpg
There's a little difference, isn't there?
GEORGIAN_GRENADE: He doesn't have to drive a luxury car from the future though, does he? He could just as easily have the caddilac 75 limousine chased in the first gameplay - That would be around in 1945.
vaults: You must not think very much. And you spelled ridiculous wrong
Fraz: you may not notice little details like this. That's fine with me. But when somthing breaks up the complety period and accurate scene - even if it's minor - only something a car buff would notice - It's a little bit of a shame. But at least were not seeing a 2002 toyotas.
Ganja: I care. And even if the cars aren't licensed, I doesn't make them impervious to setting. And most unlicensed cars have many elements of a real car, just edited. And the only real difference between the car in question and a real 1948 model is some tweaked taillights. And I think you may have forgotten the original aregument-It was never about car names.
Hi guys,
I want to say that I totally respect car lovers, and Mafia lovers, but I want to remind you that a lot of this conversation is not moving the thread forward at all, and I want to be sure that everyone respects everyone else. I also want to be sure that people don't repeatedly post the same stuff. Whether you agree with the OP or not, we don't have to continue posting the same stuff over and over. That is spammish.
If you want to further the conversation, please do, but do not keep rehashing the same stuff. Let's move things forward.
Thanks!
packard carribean: I understand your devotion to late model cars, but it's just a video game. Honestly I could care less, as long as if the cars looks like it's from the 40's then that's good for me....
an I'm sure the 2K Czech team know what there working with
Hey listen - I'm sorry If I insulted anyone, the argument got a tad heated. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, But I will still try to formulate a rebutall - As long as it doesn't get to repetitive. I understand some (most) people here dn't care - I do and somone else did too if I remember. The general assumptions I've made seem to point to a few postitions taken in this thread:
A.You agree with me
B. You see it's a 40's car, a few years difference doesn't matter to you.
C. You feel insulted that someone would actually care about historical accuracy to such a point.
Now I know it is pretty much an impossibilty that this will be changed in the time before release - But I still want people to be aware of it, whether they consider it a very stupid topic or something they would change if they had they're way. But as Elizibeth said, they can't heed the fans wishes Exactly - It would take forever to make the game. But I am still pleased with the developers and how they follow real life models to a T, before changing them to an F for lincensing puposes. And I'm glad for everyone who gave input - whether supportative or against. And also I'm sorry If I repeated myslef - I forgot what exactly I posted previously.
Last edited by packardcaribien; 06-26-2009 at 07:02 AM.
I guess a 3 year difference in a "supposed" car model that looks like a similar car but isnt because Mafia 2 isnt licensed to copyright car models is that big of deal huh. I guess 2K should quit the production over everyones nit-picking huh...
Im going to start a thread about how I think there should be pets and people in wheelchairs to make the game more realistic.
LOL
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