twilight saga

[skyqueen]

Well i aint going to hid that i love twilight and what i love most about it is edward!!! but the books are great!! i never read them and i saw the movie was out! one of my co-works asked if i read it for im always reading. i hadnt and had a vocher to spend and i found twilight! i love it right away and seeing edward on the big screen made me like it even more! i'm also galde to see the midnight sun which is twilight form edwards piont of view is still comeing out! but i was wondering what other people out there thought of twilight, new moon, eclipse and breaking dawn, or for people who havent read it at lest what your thick of the movie. i found out she base her books on older books heres a link!! it near the buttom of the page!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_(series)

oh and i know longer live on bebo its gone he he he he

[Electric Flesh]

What do I think?

Hmmmm...I think it's drivel that most teenage girls will want to read just because one of the main characters is a "hawt vampire OMG <3!!" Stephen King himself bluntly stated that Stephanie Myer couldn't write worth a darn, but that was ignored by the teenage girl crowd because most of them don't even know who Stephen King is!


When I see a teenage girl reading anything other than Twilight, I want to give them a nice big wad of cash.

[LordLeckie]

To be honest Kings quality has really taken a dive in more recent years, a lot of his work isnt that great. In my family my dad was simply happy my sister was reading.

[mueske]

What do I think?

Hmmmm...I think it's drivel that most teenage girls will want to read just because one of the main characters is a "hawt vampire OMG <3!!" Stephen King himself bluntly stated that Stephanie Myer couldn't write worth a darn, but that was ignored by the teenage girl crowd because most of them don't even know who Stephen King is!


When I see a teenage girl reading anything other than Twilight, I want to give them a nice big wad of cash.

OMG, Stephen King himself! Wow!

Now on a more serious note, have you read Twilight? I honestly doubt it, therefor you shouldn't make claims about the quality of the books.

[Under The Sea]

What do I think?

Hmmmm...I think it's drivel that most teenage girls will want to read just because one of the main characters is a "hawt vampire OMG <3!!" Stephen King himself bluntly stated that Stephanie Myer couldn't write worth a darn, but that was ignored by the teenage girl crowd because most of them don't even know who Stephen King is!
When I see a teenage girl reading anything other than Twilight, I want to give them a nice big wad of cash.

haha

this is exactly correct, its a teen fad

To be honest Kings quality has really taken a dive in more recent years, a lot of his work isnt that great. In my family my dad was simply happy my sister was reading.

children/teenager intellectual development seems to lessen every year

OMG, Stephen King himself! Wow!

Now on a more serious note, have you read Twilight? I honestly doubt it, therefor you shouldn't make claims about the quality of the books.

lmao good joke buddy, im guessing you haven't read it either?

iI for one, think and know it is a good example of bad writing that is nothing more then a despicable teen fad.

another example is the davinchi code. sure the story is entertaining, and i thought the movie was decent, but none the less the book is filled with bad writing

and i love stephen king, but it no way think of him as the god of writing or any such thing

[lurchibald]

OMG, Stephen King himself! Wow!

Now on a more serious note, have you read Twilight? I honestly doubt it, therefor you shouldn't make claims about the quality of the books.

i tried rerading it.... never got past the first page it was sooo boring, it is a book made mostly for teenage girls, enough said.

[Electric Flesh]

Yes, I admit it, I only read half of the book, and yes, the writing is awful. Read some yourself, you'll see. Also, Stephen King isn't a god, but his worst work is better than Myer's best, in my opinion.

[mueske]

haha

this is exactly correct, its a teen fad



children/teenager intellectual development seems to lessen every year



lmao good joke buddy, im guessing you haven't read it either?

iI for one, think and know it is a good example of bad writing that is nothing more then a despicable teen fad.

another example is the davinchi code. sure the story is entertaining, and i thought the movie was decent, but none the less the book is filled with bad writing

and i love stephen king, but it no way think of him as the god of writing or any such thing

Nope, I haven't. That's why I refrain from having an opinion on it. It's not your opinion if you haven't read it, it's someone else's, you're but a sheep, a tool.

[japester]

I saw the movie (3 times, because of my girlfriend, LOL), and it was okay. Unfortunately, I found the lead girl completely unlikable, and it seemed like the only reason she dated Edward was to be "a rebel". And they took almost all of the negatives of vampires and turned them into "tween and teen girl bait" (sparkly skin?? give me a break! LOL). It just played out like mediocre fan-fic. I thought the baseball scene was the most entertaining bit.

My girlfriend, who has an English degree and works a side job as an editor, read the books after seeing the film. She says they're trash. She would know--she is not above reading trashy novels, mixed in with her cerebral stuff, for some low-brow fun. The quality of writing is clearly sub-par. I thing King is not alone in his criticism. In fact, unlike JK Rowling, who got praise from several quarters, I don't think any literary figures have praised the writing in the Twilight series. People admit it is wildly popular, but nobody says how good it is. My gal also informed me that almost all the best bits and entertaining side characters from the movie were made up by the director and don't really exist in the book. Bleh.

It's funny, but my gal also rails against Twilight for teaching girls that there is some perfect guy out there who wants to spend all his time with you, finding out all about you by talking, yet never wanting to touch you. And he sparkles in the sun. If that doesn't sound like perfect fan-fic, I don't know what does.

[Electric Flesh]

Nope, I haven't. That's why I refrain from having an opinion on it. It's not your opinion if you haven't read it, it's someone else's, you're but a sheep, a tool.

You're right. And from the half of the trashy book that I so stupidly decided to read, I was able to draw the conclusion that the writing was garbage.

[brendensavi]

Well, she definitely knew how to write a book that appeals to teens, you have to give her that. I think a lot of it's appeal, and why it's mostly popular with teenage girls is because they like the whole mysterious vampire boyfriend thing, if you read the first book a lot of it is her just thinking about Edward, and their relationship. It's like all of those love stories where the girl falls in love with a guy with a "bad boy" image, but with a vampire twist. I think it's a little ridiculous, but obviously a lot of people like it.

[Under The Sea]

Well, she definitely knew how to write a book that appeals to teens, you have to give her that. I think a lot of it's appeal, and why it's mostly popular with teenage girls is because they like the whole mysterious vampire boyfriend thing, if you read the first book a lot of it is her just thinking about Edward, and their relationship. It's like all of those love stories where the girl falls in love with a guy with a "bad boy" image, but with a vampire twist. I think it's a little ridiculous, but obviously a lot of people like it.

its not the book itself i hate

the world is filled with ugly writing

its the extreme fanaticism that like half of the teenage girls in this darn country show for this baloney

i dont like fanatics of just about any kind, whether its twilight fanatics, religious fanatics or anything of the like, i hate them.

and ive seen the movie and both the girl and guy are ugly

[brendensavi]

Ugly writing or not, the story is what all of those fanatic girls like, not only in the US, but all over. I kinda agree though, I wish they would calm down a little with the fanaticism.

[Electric Flesh]

Yep. That I give to her. Even though the writing is utter *beep* , it appeals to teens.

[japester]

Yep. That I give to her. Even though the writing is utter *beep* , it appeals to teens.

Agreed. I don't hate it...any more than I hate trashy romance novels, sugary cereals, or reality television. All are fine in moderation, and I would never argue that they aren't popular. I just hope the fans of Twilight use it as a springboard to read more (and better) books.

[brendensavi]

Hopefully, but I can't see them reading Dracula any time soon

[thesuperjman]

OMG, Stephen King himself! Wow!

Now on a more serious note, have you read Twilight? I honestly doubt it, therefor you shouldn't make claims about the quality of the books.

yea, my opinion isn't based off of anothers, even if it was Steven King. I liked the movie, so I picked up the second book and like it too and guess what guys... i'm going to read the third and fourth as well.

edit: and to those who claim not to like it because "it's ****ty writing", can you back this up?

[japester]

edit: and to those who claim not to like it because "it's ****ty writing", can you back this up?

What would you prefer: a graph or a mathematical theorem?

I studied writing briefly, and I won quite a few literary awards in high school and college. I'm no expert, but the passages that my girlfriend had me read were very clunky.

As I said before, my girlfriend is more of an expert as she is paid to edit articles, tech manuals, novels, and resumes (to name a few examples). She has studied writing for years and thinks the writing is clunky.

And, as others have noted, celebrated professional authors have called it "trash". Whereas I have not seen a single well-known author step forward and call it "good" writing. Popular, yes. But good? No.

Not everything has to be Shakespeare. That's not the point. There's no shame in enjoying Twilight, but if you think it's good prose, then you don't know prose.

[Electric Flesh]

yea, my opinion isn't based off of anothers, even if it was Steven King. I liked the movie, so I picked up the second book and like it too and guess what guys... i'm going to read the third and fourth as well.

edit: and to those who claim not to like it because "it's ****ty writing", can you back this up?

Nor is mine. I was just using Stephen's word as an example. He isn't a god, and I dont even particularly care for his work, but it's quite well-written, and he's a critically acclaimed writer, so I think he has earned the right to critique other writers, because he can do better himelf.

Here is an example of the bad writing, taken from Barnes and Noble.com.

This is the one I detested the most and the long-standing worst paragraph I have ever read:

"It was beautiful; I couldn't deny that. Everything was green: the trees, their trunks covered with moss, their branches hanging with a canopy of it, the ground covered with ferns. Even the air filtered down greenly through the leaves. It was too green-an alien planet."

She goes from saying it's good that it's green to it's bad that it's green. Make up your mind. Plus the semicolon was completely unnecessary. And their branches hanging with a canopy of...what? What is it hanging with a canopy of? Moss? Green? Trees? How are we supposed to know?

[japester]

Oh, I should point out one thing. And this is a very common mistake that youths make (even my generation):

It isn't bad because it's popular.

Sometimes things are popular due to their high quality. I'm tired of seeing the "hip, smart" kids dismiss anything that the general public enjoys because, you know, "everyone is sheep". LOL

DISLIKING what everyone else likes is the same as LIKING what everyone else likes. In other words, if your decisions are based on what everyone else is doing, then you aren't thinking for yourself, no matter which side of the fence you're on. Food for thought.

[Electric Flesh]

Oh, I should point out one thing. And this is a very common mistake that youths make (even my generation):

It isn't bad because it's popular.

Sometimes things are popular due to their high quality. I'm tired of seeing the "hip, smart" kids dismiss anything that the general public enjoys because, you know, "everyone is sheep". LOL

DISLIKING what everyone else likes is the same as LIKING what everyone else likes. In other words, if your decisions are based on what everyone else is doing, then you aren't thinking for yourself, no matter which side of the fence you're on. Food for thought.

Very true. I had no problem giving into the 'Dark Knight' craze. I quoted the Joker in my IMDB signature, I bought the Blu-Ray, I did Joker impressions with my pals. It was actually really fun!

Just because you like, or even love something that's very popular doesn't mean you're a "sheep".

[Circus of Values]

I read the books, and I liked them. Yes, the writing wasn't the best. Yes, the characters could be annoying. But at least it was DIFFERENT. I do hate the teenage fad about it though.

[ATLAS IS WATCHING]

i dont see what the hype was about with twilight.
imo its really overrated..
my sister dragged me to see twilight but left after a few minutes to see watchman again.. (for the 3rd time)

[japester]

i dont see what the hype was about with twilight.
imo its really overrated..

I felt the same way about Titanic, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and just about every Jim Carrey movie. LOL. To each his own. Twilight appeals to young girls. That's it's target audience. Guys can like it, too, but it isn't really aimed at us.

[thesuperjman]

What would you prefer: a graph or a mathematical theorem?

I studied writing briefly, and I won quite a few literary awards in high school and college. I'm no expert, but the passages that my girlfriend had me read were very clunky.

As I said before, my girlfriend is more of an expert as she is paid to edit articles, tech manuals, novels, and resumes (to name a few examples). She has studied writing for years and thinks the writing is clunky.

And, as others have noted, celebrated professional authors have called it "trash". Whereas I have not seen a single well-known author step forward and call it "good" writing. Popular, yes. But good? No.

Not everything has to be Shakespeare. That's not the point. There's no shame in enjoying Twilight, but if you think it's good prose, then you don't know prose.

no Chaucer wrote good prose. Don't underestimate me when it comes to writing , it's what i like, it's what i'm good at, i understand it, and i'm going to major it in college too (most likely, there's some other cool stuff i might rather learn)

[skyqueen]

did anyone go to wick to see how she based her books on?
the frist is pride and prejudice new moon in romeo and juliet eclipse is wuthering higths and breaking dawn is a midsummer nights dream.
the movie was great the books are alot better my fav is eclipse for the fact it explans alot like, how the wolf become to be and why rose hates being a vampimer!!!! then again there are haters just like harry potter! i dont like edward for his looks but for the person he is caring loving i wouldnt like a bf that is a vampire. but unlike many other girls (thought im a women really) i know that people like will never be and i do not base my life on trying to find an edward! i know what i like and its not him lol!!! i am glade to see peoples oppi on this thought!

[Electric Flesh]

no Chaucer wrote good prose. Don't underestimate me when it comes to writing , it's what i like, it's what i'm good at, i understand it, and i'm going to major it in college too (most likely, there's some other cool stuff i might rather learn)

Hahahahaha...*wheeeze*...hahahaha...*cough, cough*...hahahaha...

I find it funny how you said "no Chaucer wrote good prose"...hahahaha...*wheeeze*...

[LookBehindU]

I read the series. I thought it was....okay. I wouldn't put it at the godly level that the fangirls have rasied it to because its certainly only just above fanfiction level. Not worth a film and not worth the milions Meyer is making.

[BioShockWins]

Some people at my school are making their own Twilight-esque movie. They won't let me look at the script though.

[mueske]

You're right. And from the half of the trashy book that I so stupidly decided to read, I was able to draw the conclusion that the writing was garbage.

Enough for me, if you had said that immediately, I wouldn't have had to go on that tirade. It still is your fault though for saying you didn't read it at all!

[Electric Flesh]

Enough for me, if you had said that immediately, I wouldn't have had to go on that tirade. It still is your fault though for saying you didn't read it at all!

What do you mean? I don't think I ever said that.

Hmmm...mindf*** much?
The closest I said to that was this:

Yes, I admit it, I only read half of the book, and yes, the writing is awful. Read some yourself, you'll see. Also, Stephen King isn't a god, but his worst work is better than Myer's best, in my opinion.

[Under The Sea]

Oh, I should point out one thing. And this is a very common mistake that youths make (even my generation):
It isn't bad because it's popular.
Sometimes things are popular due to their high quality. I'm tired of seeing the "hip, smart" kids dismiss anything that the general public enjoys because, you know, "everyone is sheep". LOL
DISLIKING what everyone else likes is the same as LIKING what everyone else likes. In other words, if your decisions are based on what everyone else is doing, then you aren't thinking for yourself, no matter which side of the fence you're on. Food for thought.

ill do whatever i feel like

I felt the same way about Titanic, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and just about every Jim Carrey movie. LOL. To each his own. Twilight appeals to young girls. That's it's target audience. Guys can like it, too, but it isn't really aimed at us.

dark knight was sick, sure it was hyped, but it was real good

[mueske]

What do you mean? I don't think I ever said that.

Hmmm...mindf*** much?
The closest I said to that was this:

Actually, it was this:

lmao good joke buddy, im guessing you haven't read it either?

You edited your post afterwards, which I just noticed now.

[Under The Sea]

Actually, it was this:



You edited your post afterwards, which I just noticed now.

your all dumb

why dont you all go lay down

[That_dude]

You're all sexy.

Why don't you all go lay down? (I'll be there in 5 minutes.)

[Under The Sea]

You're all sexy.

Why don't you all go lay down? (I'll be there in 5 minutes.)

no homo bro

[That_dude]

That too.

Would you like to be the big spoon or the little spoon? No homo, of course.

[Under The Sea]

That too.

Would you like to be the big spoon or the little spoon? No homo, of course.

stay away from me

[japester]

AND WE'RE DONE.

All of you get a time out. Go sit in the corner.

CLOSED.