RevCast- a podcast all about CivRev

[Grayson]

HGB should be happy with that one. Though we may not have spoke as kindly as he may wants about the French.

I hope you guys enjoy the podcasts, they are a lot of fun to record, and DanQ is producing and editing this for the love of the game and for the fans. If anyone has anything they would like us to discuss, please let us know here or via PM, and we'll be sure to consider it (or let me put it this way, higly likely it will be in a future episode).

Also, I'd like to hear more input from you guys about which civs you would like discussed next. Do you guys want us to further expose the brokeness that is the Americans? Continue to talk about the weaker civ, maybe the Russians or Mongols? Want me to unveil my super secret Spanish strategies (I don't know if you guys are ready for that yet )? Let us know!

[MadDjinn]

Do you think you can talk about the mongols?

the russians may be nice to share since they're kinda vanilla after the start, but that map does really change what you can do with them at the beginning.

[Hellogoodbye123]

HGB should be happy with that one. Though we may not have spoke as kindly as he may wants about the French.

My name is in the description!!!!!!!!

i havent heard it but i will right now, im soooo excited

[Hellogoodbye123]

IT WAS GREAT!!!!!!!!

in the beginning i heard there was a bunch of fan mail, how did my stick out!?!?!?!?! unless there was only like 10 fan mails lol

i wonder if you guys knew that was me? just wondering

[elthrasher]

I figured your name was Hellogoodbye123. As far as I know, we only got one fan letter, so keep 'em coming and we'll dedicate every episode to you.

[elthrasher]

Do you think you can talk about the mongols?

the russians may be nice to share since they're kinda vanilla after the start, but that map does really change what you can do with them at the beginning.

I think I can talk about the Mongols. Ever since I started horserushing with them, my games have been a lot better. My record only includes two losses with Mongol horserush. Once because of an unlucky battle (lost 6-4.5 against an impi army) and once because the Aztecs got to me first.

But I think we should do a less challenging civ next since we just did the French. One assumes not every listener is up to the challenge of trying to tackle online play with a bad or complicated civ.

[Hellogoodbye123]

I figured your name was Hellogoodbye123. As far as I know, we only got one fan letter, so keep 'em coming and we'll dedicate every episode to you.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just one fan letter..lol

to meeeee...

idk, i dont want to be seen as the obsessed fan...lol maybe later later when i have a real question lol

[Grayson]

we'll be recording the next episode in a few weeks, we still would like more votes on who you guys would like us to discuss next. Since we did France last time, I'd prefer us not to do a weak civ, and we have already done the Aztecs and French.

Also, any other topics that you guys want us to touch on would be cool.

[TyShine]

we'll be recording the next episode in a few weeks, we still would like more votes on who you guys would like us to discuss next. Since we did France last time, I'd prefer us not to do a weak civ, and we have already done the Aztecs and French.

Also, any other topics that you guys want us to touch on would be cool.

If you dont want to talk about weak civs then you could talk about how to counter the power civs. Since they are used more than other civs it would be a good subject. Maybe, how to stop a Zulu rush, a Chinese expander, or if you want to try and tackle the American knight rush.

[elthrasher]

If you dont want to talk about weak civs then you could talk about how to counter the power civs. Since they are used more than other civs it would be a good subject. Maybe, how to stop a Zulu rush, a Chinese expander, or if you want to try and tackle the American knight rush.

I'm not sure if that one is really solved. I'm waiting for stories like "well, he had 20 knight armies at 500 BC, but I just [SOMETHING AWESOME] and he agreed he had no hope of winning." We could still talk about it some, but I share Grayson's concern that discussions of how to best the Americans do more to tell people how to play them than how to play against them.

I was thinking it might be good to talk a bit about freezing and how to avoid it. It isn't obvious that you shouldn't change to Fundamentalism immediately after walking in on Tripoli. I think most of us made this mistake a few times before figuring out the problem.

[MorteEterna]

I'm not sure if that one is really solved. I'm waiting for stories like "well, he had 20 knight armies at 500 BC, but I just [SOMETHING AWESOME] and he agreed he had no hope of winning." We could still talk about it some, but I share Grayson's concern that discussions of how to best the Americans do more to tell people how to play them than how to play against them.

I was thinking it might be good to talk a bit about freezing and how to avoid it. It isn't obvious that you shouldn't change to Fundamentalism immediately after walking in on Tripoli. I think most of us made this mistake a few times before figuring out the problem.

Uhm, you mean my stories in FFA's?

[TyShine]

Uhm, you mean my stories in FFA's?

Thats what I thought when I read it. This weeks episode of rev cast, "how to stop the Americans when used by MorteEterna."

Conclusion:Good luck.

[SVPM]

How to start a game. Maybe it could be civ depending, but as you are already doing a strat for every, maybe it wouldn't be necessary to do by civ, but more of a general strategy. Trying to say what you must look at the start, the basic thing, but also when you know which path you should choose, expand, horse rush, BW... You could separate the step by turn. Like first 5 turns, first 10, first 20, first 40. You could talk civ specific when some civs have special thing that make them do not as the others would. Like don't grow Pekin after your 2 first warriors...

[MorteEterna]

Thats what I thought when I read it. This weeks episode of rev cast, "how to stop the Americans when used by MorteEterna."

Conclusion:Good luck.

I don't even remember how I won my last games. I think players keep quitting. Last time I had about 800 beakers, 100 gold per turn and more than 40 cities, and I rushed athomic theory and some technologies like that, by 100 AD.. it was fun

Hard to tell how..

[DanQ]

Telling remarks. Regular co-hosts Joe "joebreeves" Reeves, Grayson "Grayson" Middlebrook and Matt "elthrasher" Morgan lead the RevCast (RC) panel in its sixteenth episode entitled "Touché" (Part 2); now netcasting, it has a runtime of 14m59s. The summary of topics is as follows:

- 00m47s | Topic #1
Technologies with French post-Code of Laws, Wonders post-Colossus, and making the best of the civilization's Industrial and Modern era bonuses in Civilization: Revolution.
- 04m48s | Topic #2
The post-Ancient era blues for France where failing an early culture push, ultimate failure becomes an increasing possibility though hope remains.
- 07m19s | Topic #3
The surprising strength of the French Artificial Intelligence in single-player, while compensating for the civ's shortcomings in multiplayer.
- 12m10s | Topic #4
The joy of playing France, and acknowledging the possibility that their outlook could improve should an elusive strategy come about.

RevCast is the second spin-off of the Civ strategy-centric PolyCast; the modding-centric ModCast was the first such spin-off. Unlike either of its older siblings, RC has no defined segment categories.

[Hellogoodbye123]

i heard this weeks civ rev cast thing..

it great!

because my name was said for like .7 seconds!

but i couldnt hear what grayson said, it was to fuzzy.. even with the volume soo high, i just heard something about luck..

i liked the last part the most, because grayson and elthraser said it was fun playing with the french because it feels like a great accomplishment beating a game where they are up agaisnt china, zulu, americans and aztecs..

[DanQ]

i heard this weeks civ rev cast thing..

it great!

because my name was said for like .7 seconds!

On December 24th, the 2009 PolyCast Christmas Special was released; its panel includes both Joe (joebreeves) and Matt (elthrasher), and part of its content is on CivRev. As such, I felt the production deserved a mention here as well.

[DanQ]

The balancing act that it is. Regular co-hosts Joe "joebreeves" Reeves, Grayson "Grayson" Middlebrook and Matt "elthrasher" Morgan lead the RevCast (RC) panel in its seventeenth episode entitled "Not Too Early, Not Too Late"; now netcasting, this second season premiere has a runtime of 29m59s. The summary of topics is as follows:

- 01m52s | Topic #1
An overview of playing as the English nation in Civilization: Revolution.
- 03m44s | Topic #2
Ancient Era play for this civ in detail including its bonuses, online prevelance and what its circumstance does and does not lend itself too.
- 14m19s | Topic #3
Why waiting for eras subsequent, as England, is desirable.
- 17m39s | Topic #4
England's Modern Era with a focus on why its naval advantage trumps the advent of Tanks.
- 21m52s | Topic #5
Defending against this exponentially powerful player.

RevCast is the second spin-off of the Civ strategy-centric PolyCast; the modding-centric ModCast was the first such spin-off. Unlike either of its older siblings, RC has no defined segment categories.

[DanQ]

Carry on. Regular co-hosts Joe "joebreeves" Reeves, Grayson "Grayson" Middlebrook and Matt "elthrasher" Morgan lead the RevCast (RC) panel in its seventeenth episode entitled "So On And So Forth"; now netcasting, this second season premiere has a runtime of 29m59s. It is the show's second composite episode of archived segments.

The summary of topics is as follows:

- 00m58s | Topic #1
Towards the potentially elusive "Here's Looking At You, Kid" achievement for Civilization: Revolution on the Xbox 360 (from Episode 17).
- 06m22s | Topic #2
Ounces of prevention, as well as pounds of cure, for several common unintentional game freezes (from Episode 17).
- 13m49s | Topic #3
Which of the three CivRev console platform releases is generally preferred (from Episode 01).
- 19m01s | Topic #4
Analysis of the "Attack of the Huns" scenario (from Episode 09).
- 25m18s | Topic #5
Transitioning from the CivRev singleplayer to the multiplayer sphere (from Episode 17).

RevCast is the second spin-off of the Civ strategy-centric PolyCast; the modding-centric ModCast was the first such spin-off. Unlike either of its older siblings, RC has no defined segment categories.

[DanQ]

Maybe not even when the game has concluded. Regular co-hosts Grayson "Grayson" Middlebrook and Matt "elthrasher" Morgan with first-time guest co-host Rob "the headless 10" lead the RevCast (RC) panel in its nineteenth episode entitled "When is the Rush Phase Ever Over?"; now netcasting, it has a runtime of 29m59s. The summary of topics is as follows:

- 01m17s | Topic #1
Ranking up: getting to the top of the leaderboard in both free-for-all and matched Civilization: Revolution multiplayer.
- 05m34s | Topic #2
 Once you're at the top of a given leaderboard, how to stay there.
- 10m40s | Topic #3
Introducing the latest "Civ of the Month": the Arabs.
- 12m17s | Topic #4
Working your way through the Ancient Era as the Arabs in CivRev.
- 17m24s | Topic #5
Throughout the Medieval and to the Industrial Era, what is preferably going on in the Arabian empire.
- 21m26s | Topic #6
What arriving at the Modern Era means or the Arabs.
- 22m52s | Topic #7
From bully to being bullied: defending against the Arabs in CivRev.

RevCast is the second spin-off of the Civ strategy-centric PolyCast; the modding-centric ModCast was the first such spin-off. Unlike either of its older siblings, RC has no defined segment categories.

[ATC 1982]

will you all go over the new version of Civ Rev for ipad on the RevCast?

[elthrasher]

will you all go over the new version of Civ Rev for ipad on the RevCast?

I don't have an ipad (the women in my life would mock me forever if I got one for one thing). Maybe we could have a guest co-host on to talk about it. You volunteering?

[matsgutt]

Great stuff guys........ Love the show.......

[SVPM]

That was interesting...

You could do a show about how to use legion with some civs. As it has been said elsewhere it's really an underrated unit. I've done powerful (game winning) legion rush with indian, spanish and roman.

Good subject on this, would be:

1-Which civ are better to do it and with which you don't.

2-How to put in place a good small empire to build those legions quickly.

3-The good balance between quantity and time frame.

4-How to attack (a bunch at the same spot, dispersed, by boat, by road?)

5-What's next? I see it's not working. Wait for fundy, leo's for knight, quit and cry?

Just some idea...

[elthrasher]

Thanks for the feedback, guys. We could certainly talk about legions. Seems like they're gaining popularity around here, but I still don't see them that often online. Of course, I don't know if the average players out there are mining RevCast looking to improve their games. Kind of tough to say.

Any requests for the next civ we look at?

GotW or other single player folks who would like something or other discussed should feel free to make suggestions. I think we tend to spend most of our time talking about playing online, because that's what Grayson and I do the most, but we can talk more about the SP game if people think there's much to add.

[SVPM]

Any requests for the next civ we look at?

Greece could be interesting. They are played differently from the other civs. I don't know if you control them a lot. I guess that since you play random, you should have a good control of about any civs...

Indian, japs or roman too...

For SP/MP, I think that if you are good in Mp, Sp will be a joke. That's just my opinion, I've only played 3 days of Sp and got bored so I'm not that objective...

[sn1p3rk1ll3]

Indians please: great for expansion early and mid-game, fundamentalism to go on the non-peacefull path, ...

Ghandi kicks but


And a question for the 3 showhosts: do you guys play games to test the civs against eachother?
-Like all 3 as India to see whose strategy owns the rest, ...


Ps:My name is Gerd Janssens (try pronouncing that without the easily mistaken 'Nerd' first name ) so please add it in a revcast; great ego boost

[elthrasher]

Indians please: great for expansion early and mid-game, fundamentalism to go on the non-peacefull path, ...

Ghandi kicks but

India will definitely be done eventually. Both Grayson and I like them. India goes well with legions, so maybe that's an idea.

To be honest, my Greek game has been all over the place lately. I used to do well with them. I'm not sure I'm qualified to tell people how to play the Greeks right now. I would like to cover them eventually, but I think I need to re-discover them or something.

And a question for the 3 showhosts: do you guys play games to test the civs against eachother?
-Like all 3 as India to see whose strategy owns the rest, ...

We haven't done any joint pre-show prep like that in the past, but it's a decent idea. By the way, just the two of us, Grayson and I, are the regular co-hosts. headless was a guest (though it's not beyond the realm of possibility that we'll have him again).

Ps:My name is Gerd Janssens (try pronouncing that without the easily mistaken 'Nerd' first name ) so please add it in a revcast; great ego boost

So you want me to just blurt out your name in the middle of the podcast? Sure, anything for a fan, but I don't know if it will make it past the editor.

[sn1p3rk1ll3]

India will definitely be done eventually. Both Grayson and I like them. India goes well with legions, so maybe that's an idea.

To be honest, my Greek game has been all over the place lately. I used to do well with them. I'm not sure I'm qualified to tell people how to play the Greeks right now. I would like to cover them eventually, but I think I need to re-discover them or something.



We haven't done any joint pre-show prep like that in the past, but it's a decent idea. By the way, just the two of us, Grayson and I, are the regular co-hosts. headless was a guest (though it's not beyond the realm of possibility that we'll have him again).



So you want me to just blurt out your name in the middle of the podcast? Sure, anything for a fan, but I don't know if it will make it past the editor.

Try it : I've been listening to the podcasts since over 2 years ago (not from this forum, but civfanatics, ask Morte: he knew me there)


I just love these podcasts and with the 'luckfactors debate' I think I heard "Jezus Gonzales" and someone trying REALLY HARD to pronounce it right ("gesus", not "djeezus").
I kinda laughed so hard my neighbours heard it

[GrizzleyTigers4]

Greece could be interesting. They are played differently from the other civs. I don't know if you control them a lot. I guess that since you play random, you should have a good control of about any civs...

Indian, japs or roman too......

I agree with this comment, I would be interested in hearing about less used civs like the japs, and I'm curious to how you guys play the romans and indians as well, being that so many of the strategy guides are outdated. I'm glad somebody started posting on this thread last night, being new to the forum I didnt even know this podcast existed. I know its late to comment but it was real good to see Grayson and Thrasher add a more professional commentary than the amateur stuff that it started with(no offense intended to the original host's...it was a great idea). Ive played the Headless multiple times over the last week as well, it was interesting to hear him on there as well and I hope he returns. Thanks for the time and effort fella's!

One question: do you guys actually meet up to do this? I would assume travel might make that kinda tough.

[Grayson]

I agree with this comment, I would be interested in hearing about less used civs like the japs, and I'm curious to how you guys play the romans and indians as well, being that so many of the strategy guides are outdated. I'm glad somebody started posting on this thread last night, being new to the forum I didnt even know this podcast existed. I know its late to comment but it was real good to see Grayson and Thrasher add a more professional commentary than the amateur stuff that it started with(no offense intended to the original host's...it was a great idea). Ive played the Headless multiple times over the last week as well, it was interesting to hear him on there as well and I hope he returns. Thanks for the time and effort fella's!

One question: do you guys actually meet up to do this? I would assume travel might make that kinda tough.

thanks for the kind words.....

To answer your question, we meet over Skype. It would be nice to meet up and record, but that would cut into our huge profits

Japan or India would be fun. But, we just did the Arabs, so talking about another civ that gets Religion free might sound redundant in some places, though they are competely different civs.

We don't meet up to test these civs out, we already do that here and from spending the past few years playing online. We do some planning online, but most of what you hear online is basically us talking to each other for an hour about a civ, and it getting edited down to about 30 minutes or so.

Keep the suggestions coming. We really do consider alll suggestions when planning the show.

[the headless 10]

it was a lot of fun to record.. heh, an hour of talking civ, good stuff.. personally ive played thrasher more than any other forum member, so we know a fair amount about each others tendencies.. ive played grayson some too, and we had all played multiple arab games against each other.. i agree that its cool that these revcasts have been taken over by grayson and thrasher.. some of the early ones were interesting, but the later ones are much more applicable to mp games.. id happily do another recording.. i wudnt mind hearing other great players on as well, its fun to get inside the heads of other civ maniacs.. still waiting for my royalty checks to arrive in the mail, btw..

[whitetiger379]

I started watching them a couple weeks back, they're really good. now im gonna be afraid to run into those guys with their great strategies they're cooking up 0.o you can beat it on diety? i can only barely beat emperor and im bad at rushing even after trying out your aztec and arab strategies.

[whitetiger379]

it was a lot of fun to record.. heh, an hour of talking civ, good stuff.. personally ive played thrasher more than any other forum member, so we know a fair amount about each others tendencies.. ive played grayson some too, and we had all played multiple arab games against each other.. i agree that its cool that these revcasts have been taken over by grayson and thrasher.. some of the early ones were interesting, but the later ones are much more applicable to mp games.. id happily do another recording.. i wudnt mind hearing other great players on as well, its fun to get inside the heads of other civ maniacs.. still waiting for my royalty checks to arrive in the mail, btw..

yeah i play on xbox 360 and i was thinking "these guys must be a pain in the neck to face online" i havent played any ranked matches yet, just matches with friends, but i'm gonna try soon.

[whitetiger379]

thanks for the kind words.....

To answer your question, we meet over Skype. It would be nice to meet up and record, but that would cut into our huge profits

Japan or India would be fun. But, we just did the Arabs, so talking about another civ that gets Religion free might sound redundant in some places, though they are competely different civs.

We don't meet up to test these civs out, we already do that here and from spending the past few years playing online. We do some planning online, but most of what you hear online is basically us talking to each other for an hour about a civ, and it getting edited down to about 30 minutes or so.

Keep the suggestions coming. We really do consider alll suggestions when planning the show.

my suggestion is doing guides for egypt and germany! egypt can win scientific victories with their eyes closed if in desert areas with sankton university and trading posts!
And germany is pretty good for getting a bunch of advanced units just by lvling up old ones.

[Hellogoodbye123]

my suggestion is doing guides for egypt and germany! egypt can win scientific victories with their eyes closed if in desert areas with sankton university and trading posts!
And germany is pretty good for getting a bunch of advanced units just by lvling up old ones.

its not as easy as it sounds.. for germany that is.. first they need to be elite... the only ones probably elite will be your archers if your up against the ai..

but since we know warriors are vet from start you can build barracks to have free elite units, you want a city with 3 trees.. so that in medieval you can rush a warrior every turn.. maybe have 2 cities.. in the meanwhile you cant pass 30 science beakers, if you do, you will probably backfill iron working which will turn all your units into legions and you wont have anymore vet warriors.. which means no more elites.. so you have to time everything right, to where you dont fall back on tech, but at the same time you want a strong force attacking the enemy..

[elthrasher]

my suggestion is doing guides for egypt and germany! egypt can win scientific victories with their eyes closed if in desert areas with sankton university and trading posts!
And germany is pretty good for getting a bunch of advanced units just by lvling up old ones.

Thanks for the feedback. There's an episode we've recorded that should be coming out soon. We haven't made plans for the subsequent episode yet, but we'll get to both Egypt and Germany (and all the other civs we haven't done) eventually. My plan is to continue doing this until someone pays me a substantial amount of money to stop.

In the mean time, I've written strategies for both Egypt and Germany that can be found in the strategy archive. They are both a bit old, but you may find them useful.

[whitetiger379]

Thanks for the feedback. There's an episode we've recorded that should be coming out soon. We haven't made plans for the subsequent episode yet, but we'll get to both Egypt and Germany (and all the other civs we haven't done) eventually. My plan is to continue doing this until someone pays me a substantial amount of money to stop.

In the mean time, I've written strategies for both Egypt and Germany that can be found in the strategy archive. They are both a bit old, but you may find them useful.

Thanks Elthrasher, ill be sure to keep listening to the podcasts huddled up in the corner of the cave i call my gaming room in a fetal position with my eyes twitching and my body shaking, desperately crossing my fingers that you guys listened to my suggestion.

Ooooon another note ill check out your guides for them and i bet they will probably help me out, as im only at emperor lvl (but i destroyed my friend from school today by running into his capitol at about 2000 b.c. with zulu warriors :P)

[DanQ]

More than just multiple endings. Regular co-hosts Grayson "Grayson" Middlebrook, Matt "elthrasher" Morgan and introducing Rob "the headless 10" lead the RevCast (RC) panel in its twentieth episode entitled "Choose Your Own Adventure"; now netcasting, it has a runtime of 29m59s. The summary of topics is as follows:

- 03m02s | Topic #1
The generally underrated power of Legion armies in Civilization: Revolution.
- 08m42s | Topic #2
Introducing the latest "Civ of the Month": the Indians.
- 13m17s | Topic #3
India's lukewarm Ancient Era.
- 16m24s | Topic #4
Welcoming the Medieval Era as the Indians in CivRev.
- 22m45s | Topic #5
Transitioning into the Industrial Era with the Indians.
- 25m50s | Topic #6
The Modern Era, and overall game victory targets, for India.

- Intro/Outro | Miscellaneous
The ongoing CivRev tournament brackets.

RevCast is the second spin-off of the Civ strategy-centric PolyCast; the modding-centric ModCast was the first such spin-off. Unlike either of its older siblings, RC has no defined segment categories.

[SVPM]

I'm looking to listen to that later today. Nice subject

Continue the good job!

It will be fun to watch because, I've been trying the legion rush in a good couple of my last h2h match. I've been pure random for a while so I can experiment with different civs. So far, Rome, India, Spain, Germany have been good at it. I'm starting to think that I should try it with Greece too.