Some thoughts on my MP free for all day..

[danthechan]

played 1 ffa yesterday and went as french since i didn't recognize any of the players. turns out 2 were buddies, fuzzy bunny and someone. they swapped dem for nav on the 1st turn and it was uphill from there. i see russias borders and send a warrior to check it out. i see a WA 2 spots from paris so i quickly retreat. i get a WA and he senses it and doesn't attack. he instead comes with a 2nd WA. wierd strategy but it almost works. 1st 1 dies but double wounds me and gives vet. i would have defended at 3 but he let me heal in between attacks. i win, he quits, and i take moscow shortly after.
that WA eventually took ai america's 2nd city and got a GG. i was falling behind the 2 partners but i had a chance now, cats with a GG ftw. i spit out a couple settlers and used a gh to pop up. it was looking good when greece dropped off a single cat with galleon support at an outlying city. i didn't want to risk it so i formed a vet AA. then it loses 8-15 and i lose the city. i guess i should have kept going but i was completely over it by now. if i see those fools again i'm dusting off china or america.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Pointonestar was complaining about how I play this game in our FFA with multi. I started on an island and was harassing multi and him with AW WA and AA but he complained about it the whole game and talked about how I shouldn't be playing like that. The other guy we were playing with is a pretty weak player but he got everything handed to him with CoR and half the map. He froze and quit then later multi quit and the game froze. I was doing 84 science a turn with 3 cities and 1 on gold. I gsd gunpowder since he dumped off a knight army on my Island. I killed it then multi quit and game froze. It ended up not mattering because the game glitched so multi got then win anyways but he was acting like I was going to lose even though I was about to GB EITC and have cruisers with Rifleman and CA's. He was in fundy and attacking AI, I was in Demo and out teching him like mad. Long story short he acted like he could've won pretty easily even though I clearly would've destroyed him. He went off on a rant and said I have ruined huge leads like that before even though he couldn't provide me one example... Thought you were a respectable player but you definitely proved me wrong, point you need to grow up and accept that people can beat you and that you aren't a god at this game.

[ITZ DENI3D]

In another freeze with ALO3, this time it was unintentional but still... After hearing all this talk about how I played America so much and since I haven't played them in around 9 months I decided to give ALO3 a taste of his own medicine and choose America as well. Other players were Japan and Spain, ai Zulu were on an island.

I settle at 3900 and have my GS scouting. I am a long way from anyone at least ten turns. I find 1 barb right next to me which I take out with my warrior for 40 gold. I later take out a couple barbs very far away with my horsemen, for some reason he decided he didn't want to horse rush. He takes out Japs pretty early. I move my horsemen across the map and luckily get 2 barbs my first for 50 and my second for 40. Then I see an empty Spanish city settled in this terrible spot so I figured I might get a walk in. Sure enough 3-4 turns after he settled it I get a walk in for Nav with a single horse, now its looking pretty damn good for me lol. He quits and I take Madrid a few turns later with a vet HA and get pottery to bump me to 5 tech. After he quit though it gave ALO3 host and I resynched every turn for the rest of the game which was very annoying to say the least.

I settle my 100g city on double whale and fish. I am teching COL but he got it way before me. I have 2 vet HA by now, (got another 1 from barb that was behind Spanish.) He settles right next to the crappy city I took from Spain so I start churning out archers and end up taking it 2 turns after he settled with my 2 vet HA's. He gs's feud a few turns later, ohh crap. I'm doing around 20 beakers per turn, he got monarchy before me so I teched that instead of gs'ing it. While I'm teching it I make a few settlers and settle on a few double whale and whale and dye spots. Meanwhile he has an invincible AA that my 2 vet HA can't take out so it ends up getting a GG. He takes back his city eventually and then the crappy one I took from Spain. Madrid is a couple turns away with a barracks in it. I GS fundy and start teching Feud with 38 beakers a turn. Once I got feud I switched all of them to gold and was doing 46 gold a turn. He had a couple non vet KA coming at me but I took out one with a single vet knight 7.5-9, I also had a vet AA and 4 single vet archers in Madrid and I was rushing 2 knights a turn ( I was moving one from an island city that was close to Madrid and rushing one in Madrid). After like the 30th resynch my screen is all hazy and I can barely see. I can't pull up any of my city screens but I can still move around the map. Meanwhile I see him moving around and I try to pause it but I can't so I unplug my controller and it pauses but he unpauses immediately so I think I'm screwed because he has this whole turn to do anything he wants and I can't do one thing. Turns out the whole game froze so I am currently waiting out the freeze with him. It wasn't anyones fault (unless you can blame his crappy connection) so I don't blame him for not quiting but I'm curious who do you guys think had that game? I really wish this crap wouldn't happen but I pretty much expect it now ohh well... It was really fun as well, once I had those Islands and was churning out so much gold I knew it was only a matter of time before I took him out but guess we will never know...

[ITZ DENI3D]

Just got a space victory as Japan against 2 Americans and a Chinese player and ai English. First Americans quit before I settle. I walk for ever and only name 1 tile and find no friendlies. I end up settling in a regular spot with 4 water and 2 trees at 2900. 1 barb is 2 turns away and another was 3. While I'm walking China finds 7cog at 3500, America finds AW GW around 3300ish, then sometime in the 2000's Uniballer (only plays America) finds AoC. I know I am F'D in the A but I figure if I get lucky they will probably be fighting each other and I can just sit at the bottom of the map and try to survive. I rush library in ancient in my Cap and in my 100g with a fish. Ai Americans have settled 2 GP an artist and builder. I build spys and get lucky and win a 1-3 and take artist and a few turns later take the builder. I also take a scientist from the AI English. This whole time the Chinese and Americans are fighting which is exactly what I need to happen. My first GP was a GS which I used on nav but didn't get it first. Once I made the long walk back I GB'd EITC. I built 3 settlers in CoL then switched to demo. Chinese sold ai Invention and they offered to trade it to me for currency so I obliged. I build a market at the end of a peninsula with 2 whales and a fish. I settle one more Island city with just Dye but it gets flipped a few turns later by Chinese but I'm not worried. I'm somehow first to banking and University. My second GP I got was a gb as well so I used that to get oxford bombers but by the time I got to America he already had both money techs. I try to take an inland city America built in between mountains but I lost with odds in my favor against non vet MI army with walls. So I use my gs on Atomic Theory then start teching. My original plan was to get an Economic victory but I didn't have enough cities or expansion room so I just started teching up. Chinese guy quits after he trys to attack America and fails I guess (I don't know what happened). Anyways that city becomes a huge production city in the middle of the mainland with an iron mine and factory. Mean while I'm teching like mad. He gets flight. Then a few turns later I get Electronics. I already teched nuclear power so I was able to GS Space flight and I used my other gs on flight since I'm sure I would need fighters. He builds manhattan same turn I have all my parts in space and I launch it same turn I built roads to my cap to make sure I could walk back in after he nuked me. He waits to the last turn to attack me. He nukes kyoto and I move my MI army in. He attacks with a tank army and loses 60-60. I move more infantry in Kyoto and he attacks with a few fighter wings and loses them all then quits I had space victory that turn. LMFAO I can't believe I won that ROFL XDXDXD I've beaten Uniballer so many times but usually a lot earlier than that. Guarentee he is ☺☺☺☺ing pissed right now lol.

[ITZ DENI3D]

In a freeze with some guy I never played before, I think his name is Germangutarhero. I decided to go Zulu against 2 Chinese players and an American. I get 7cog and AW in first 10 turns and I'm coming for the German guy who is Chinese and he freezes the game when I kill his warrior. Just thought I'd let you know...

[MultiPlayaBeast]

Just got a space victory as Japan against 2 Americans and a Chinese player and ai English. First Americans quit before I settle. I walk for ever and only name 1 tile and find no friendlies. I end up settling in a regular spot with 4 water and 2 trees at 2900. 1 barb is 2 turns away and another was 3. While I'm walking China finds 7cog at 3500, America finds AW GW around 3300ish, then sometime in the 2000's Uniballer (only plays America) finds AoC. I know I am F'D in the A but I figure if I get lucky they will probably be fighting each other and I can just sit at the bottom of the map and try to survive. I rush library in ancient in my Cap and in my 100g with a fish. Ai Americans have settled 2 GP an artist and builder. I build spys and get lucky and win a 1-3 and take artist and a few turns later take the builder. I also take a scientist from the AI English. This whole time the Chinese and Americans are fighting which is exactly what I need to happen. My first GP was a GS which I used on nav but didn't get it first. Once I made the long walk back I GB'd EITC. I built 3 settlers in CoL then switched to demo. Chinese sold ai Invention and they offered to trade it to me for currency so I obliged. I build a market at the end of a peninsula with 2 whales and a fish. I settle one more Island city with just Dye but it gets flipped a few turns later by Chinese but I'm not worried. I'm somehow first to banking and University. My second GP I got was a gb as well so I used that to get oxford bombers but by the time I got to America he already had both money techs. I try to take an inland city America built in between mountains but I lost with odds in my favor against non vet MI army with walls. So I use my gs on Atomic Theory then start teching. My original plan was to get an Economic victory but I didn't have enough cities or expansion room so I just started teching up. Chinese guy quits after he trys to attack America and fails I guess (I don't know what happened). Anyways that city becomes a huge production city in the middle of the mainland with an iron mine and factory. Mean while I'm teching like mad. He gets flight. Then a few turns later I get Electronics. I already teched nuclear power so I was able to GS Space flight and I used my other gs on flight since I'm sure I would need fighters. He builds manhattan same turn I have all my parts in space and I launch it same turn I built roads to my cap to make sure I could walk back in after he nuked me. He waits to the last turn to attack me. He nukes kyoto and I move my MI army in. He attacks with a tank army and loses 60-60. I move more infantry in Kyoto and he attacks with a few fighter wings and loses them all then quits I had space victory that turn. LMFAO I can't believe I won that ROFL XDXDXD I've beaten Uniballer so many times but usually a lot earlier than that. Guarentee he is ☺☺☺☺ing pissed right now lol.

Nice strategies and you made some good calls on things I'd probably mess up on.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Pointonestar was complaining about how I play this game in our FFA with multi. I started on an island and was harassing multi and him with AW WA and AA but he complained about it the whole game and talked about how I shouldn't be playing like that. The other guy we were playing with is a pretty weak player but he got everything handed to him with CoR and half the map. He froze and quit then later multi quit and the game froze. I was doing 84 science a turn with 3 cities and 1 on gold. I gsd gunpowder since he dumped off a knight army on my Island. I killed it then multi quit and game froze. It ended up not mattering because the game glitched so multi got then win anyways but he was acting like I was going to lose even though I was about to GB EITC and have cruisers with Rifleman and CA's. He was in fundy and attacking AI, I was in Demo and out teching him like mad. Long story short he acted like he could've won pretty easily even though I clearly would've destroyed him. He went off on a rant and said I have ruined huge leads like that before even though he couldn't provide me one example... Thought you were a respectable player but you definitely proved me wrong, point you need to grow up and accept that people can beat you and that you aren't a god at this game.

This is why I don't trust point, and then he b***** about the way I play even though I beat him? Pretty ironic if you ask me...

[Flash Bang Over]

The last few weeks I've switched from H2H to FFA. Having read the thread on luck about it I would say you need a little more luck at the start in FFA. But I dont think luck in general has a lot to do with either. More just taking opportunities. Sometimes they work, sometimes not.

Anyways, I had a good run over the past 3 or 4 weeks, but cam to an end today. Started last night with 3 frozen games. First was deliberate by testtag he even messaged to boast about it. Next was just when someone left the game but the third I have a questions about.
turn 4 and I have just moved my warrior out then get the spinning gears. I could pause and move the screen. Ttkid also paused but sent me a message saying I was stuck. Aigle joe sent a few obscene messages saying I done it on purpose. I quit eventual taking the loss but how were they so sure it was me that was stuck? I though if you could pause it could start again when someone leaves?

First three games today made 6 loss in a row. A new personal record I think. Zulu find me at 3200 and kill my two warriors then taken from a galley by the greeks the last one was the first good player I have come across for a while- swift988. I picked china because he had a usa symbol but he was india. I done what I criticise others for, just teched without doing anything and he came at me with legions and later knights. Well played by him but a little lazy from me.

Finished off with a run of wins to climb almost back to where I was

[Flash Bang Over]

And I was called an 'evolution cheat' by someone. Dont even know what that means but sounds funny.

[Digitalpackrat]

aigle joe is a horrible player that knows how to cheat and swears alot. it was probably him that locked the game up

[REM018]

Usually when you can hit start and the pause screen appears on your end, you are not the one that is frozen. I left an FFA once where we were stuck and I could still pause. Me leaving did not resolve the freeze. It is usually the guy that cannot hit start w/o hard-freezing.

[Flash Bang Over]

aigle joe is a horrible player that knows how to cheat and swears alot. it was probably him that locked the game up

Well I wont be playing him again anyway.

[Flash Bang Over]

Usually when you can hit start and the pause screen appears on your end, you are not the one that is frozen. I left an FFA once where we were stuck and I could still pause. Me leaving did not resolve the freeze. It is usually the guy that cannot hit start w/o hard-freezing.

Thanks that's what I thought.

Played some more today. The first I had played all 3 before and only recognized 1 as good. We had played a long time ago with my germans just beating his spanish. So its me spain, the good player india with Aztec and japan. I had decided its india I need to beat but felt bad going straight for him when the aztecs got 7 cities and pyramids. A good choice because the others just quit a few turns after I started taking indian cities.

The next one was spain, spain, greece and england. These jokers thought it would be funny to all trade navigation, democracy and monarchy. I wouldn't've minded so much but I only got 1 point for the win.

[danthechan]

i've played you recently flash bang. maybe it was in this game.

lost a frustrating game last night as india vs rome. the humans were egypt and india, with english ai. i start at the tip of a peninsula and walk south. i settle with 2 trees next to a barb (oil). it gives me bw. i switch over to archers and send 1 further south. i meet up with egypt and we're facing off at a barb. he brings up a 2nd warrior and tries to take it. i wait with the red x over the barb and steal it from him. i form an AA and take thebes (oracle)from him as he quits. meanwhile the romans take out the other dehli. i see roman borders ne of thebes, but he has choked his space with 3 archers. it looks like he's expanding well, and i need to introduce my self quickly or i'll be in trouble. i make a barracks in dehli and foolishly waste hammers/gold on a library in thebes. i have 3 LA'a and an AA and am working on a galley when i get a gs. i decide to save my 30 hammers and gs nav. another mistake, i don't set a water tile and it shows up on the ocean side of dehli. alright, i load an LA and free spy to go see what england is up to. i get there just as he arrives. my spy steals a gb with his spy 1 square away. i then take london and the 100 g city. meanwhile he brings a KA to thebes, taking it. i have my LA's on an inland galleon this time and i take it back while killing the army at dehli. meanwhile here's my choice, to rush eitc or sam castle (or wait for oxford). and where to rush it? i want to keep attacking with the galleon so i build it in london rather than shuttle it back to dehli or thebes. big mistake. a few turns later he wipes out my galleon with a fleet, then approaches london with another ka. with fundy and the castle i should have easily been able to defend, but i've been too aggresive and there is only an archer there. i've been using all my gold to finish off the force at dehli which would have been loosed on his countryside in another turn. faced with the prospect of losing london, the 2 gp's settled, and the sam castle, i quit in disgust. that game was mine, but i threw it all away by building the castle in a vulnerable spot.

[Flash Bang Over]

i've played you recently flash bang. maybe it was in this game.

lost a frustrating game last night as india vs rome. the humans were egypt and india, with english ai.

Nope, was not me. I can play the french better than I can with rome.

I had a few hard games recently. I keep getting to around number 12 in ffa then getting knocked back down 30 or 40 points. I got destroyed by a chinese player who expanded like mad. Another good one was against india and spain. I was spain too.

Ended up in lots of wars with india and took a few cities spain didn't seem to do much but built east india so I took it upon myself to try and do something about that. Most of my build was gold so I spent far to long on gold while indians had resources. Just too much taking on both at same time. India played really well though. We were still fighting with legions in 400ad. But he got to industrialization as I was fighting spain. Good fun.

[Flash Bang Over]

So I've been playing a few ffa games trying to climb the board.

My last 10 or 12 wins have only given me 3 points. Is this normal?

[ITZ DENI3D]

So I've been playing a few ffa games trying to climb the board.

My last 10 or 12 wins have only given me 3 pointspoints. Is this normal?

Yep, just be happy you get points. Sometimes you don't...

[SVPM]

So I've been playing a few ffa games trying to climb the board.

My last 10 or 12 wins have only given me 3 pointspoints. Is this normal?

The ranking system is similar as the one use for chess. You get points depending on the difference of ranking between you and your opponent. The more higher rank you are vis-à-vis your opponent the less points you get when you win and the more you lose when you lose the game.

You must have been really higher then your opp. On PS3, you don't usually get more then 3-4 points once you are in top10

[Flash Bang Over]

Yep, just be happy you get points. Sometimes you don't...

The ranking system is similar as the one use for chess. You get points depending on the difference of ranking between you and your opponent. The more higher rank you are vis-à-vis your opponent the less points you get when you win and the more you lose when you lose the game.

You must have been really higher then your opp. On PS3, you don't usually get more then 3-4 points once you are in top10

Yea im used to only getting 1 or 2 points per win and sometimes nothing but 3 points in total from about 12 wins, that's extreme.

[Flash Bang Over]

Finally got a whole 5 points from a game!

REM018 entered the lobby and I thought- great, there goes the points for my last 20 wins but looking forward to a good game

My spain, rem018 was russia (that's brave in ffa), fcb bannonville was Japanese and hydr0crbine was germans.
The game froze half way through the first turn. Rem left immediately, no change. He thought it might be me as it said waiting for me but I could still move and pause. Anyway fcb left and it started again.

I've never played hydrocarbine before so dont know if he's good. He played quite well.

I got good gold and a close island had space for 3 cities and a whale for each. Jackpot. My cap also had whale but 1 tree. Hydro got 7cities of gold.

I built a barracks in one of the whale cities and let that grow to work the 3 trees and expanded from the other 2. Germans plant a city quite close to madrid but in-land. I sent over some archers, loose warriors and a legion army but he easily bet them down with multiple elite warrior armies. Obviously put the 7c gold to good use. I build a few more vet legion armies for defending madrid and went for cats banking lots of hammers. Quickly get 2 vet cat armies on a fleet with archer army and more single vet archers. Leave 1 cat army home with the legions. I sail past his city close to madrid (no fleet support) and take the next one (had a road to the one sailed past) the next few turns are just a mass of battles as he has about 7 legion armies come to take back his city. I move the armies from madrid and start attacking from both sides wiping out most of elite armies and he quits. Was a great game.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Finally got a whole 5 points from a game!

REM018 entered the lobby and I thought- great, there goes the points for my last 20 wins but looking forward to a good game

My spain, rem018 was russia (that's brave in ffa), fcb bannonville was Japanese and hydr0crbine was germans.
The game froze half way through the first turn. Rem left immediately, no change. He thought it might be me as it said waiting for me but I could still move and pause. Anyway fcb left and it started again.

I've never played hydrocarbine before so dont know if he's good. He played quite well.

I got good gold and a close island had space for 3 cities and a whale for each. Jackpot. My cap also had whale but 1 tree. Hydro got 7cities of gold.

I built a barracks in one of the whale cities and let that grow to work the 3 trees and expanded from the other 2. Germans plant a city quite close to madrid but in-land. I sent over some archers, loose warriors and a legion army but he easily bet them down with multiple elite warrior armies. Obviously put the 7c gold to good use. I build a few more vet legion armies for defending madrid and went for cats banking lots of hammers. Quickly get 2 vet cat armies on a fleet with archer army and more single vet archers. Leave 1 cat army home with the legions. I sail past his city close to madrid (no fleet support) and take the next one (had a road to the one sailed past) the next few turns are just a mass of battles as he has about 7 legion armies come to take back his city. I move the armies from madrid and start attacking from both sides wiping out most of elite armies and he quits. Was a great game.

Hydrocarbine is pretty good but I only ever see him use Germans...

[REM018]

Finally got a whole 5 points from a game!

REM018 entered the lobby and I thought- great, there goes the points for my last 20 wins but looking forward to a good game

My spain, rem018 was russia (that's brave in ffa), fcb bannonville was Japanese and hydr0crbine was germans.
The game froze half way through the first turn. Rem left immediately, no change. He thought it might be me as it said waiting for me but I could still move and pause. Anyway fcb left and it started again.

I've never played hydrocarbine before so dont know if he's good. He played quite well.

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In my experience, choosing Russia in FFA is not all that problematic since there are so many noobs playing FFA, it is ridiculous. Since I saw you in the lobby and knew that your record was good, I did not want to use a "proper" civ since I did not know what civ you were choosing and I do not particularly care about FFA and most other random players really suck. And it mostly depends on how well you start and Russia has got an edge deciding whether it is worth it to walk or settle in place. Btw, I started on a 5 tile island ... The local area map was extremely useful in that game ;-)

[Flash Bang Over]

Thanks but I really dont mind losing. My record is good but as you say, most are 'noobs'.

Still, I couldn't do it with russia. Too many Zulu and china players that even if they only half know what to do would beat me.

Haha, I didn't find moscow ever in that game.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Well I'm getting really tired of the damn freezes. My second ranked game in a week and I freeze after I was about to win. Damnit...

[Flash Bang Over]

I've had a lot of games just hard freeze when im winning and the player leaves (I think). 1 or 2 have given me the loss but most don't seem to register either way. I can't complain too much because I had one a few nights ago against 2 USA and a Zulu. I moved my Settler thinking all or nothing, need to gain some sort of advantage, but turn 3 I met a Zulu warrior. dodged a bullet in that one as it didn't register.

Also had someone freeze me then came back while I was sleeping to win a technology victory. That was strange, when I went back to the xbox, it had a notification back4 IImpr had launched a rocket but was showing a domination victory for me. Didn't register either way again.

[Flash Bang Over]

I played another last night and it quirky became apparent it would be another I get no points from. The one opponent who stuck it out was England and got a GL for big number defence. So I just messed around and went for eco.

My high scores in both h2h and ffa are very low. Not bothered but just curios. I built in hammers oxford for network about 100ad as I had a builder for internet. Was then making about 6000 gold so while building bank I rushed just about every building and wonder available. I even nuked his cap a turn before finishing bank. This took my high score from 7000 (its only 4000 in h2h ) to just over 20000! I know it means nothing but what on earth are these guys doing that have scores in the hundreds of thousands?

[danthechan]

played a game as egypt vs america, zulu, japan, and russian ai. settled with hgb and 3 desert. collected a decent amount of gold and then the zulu took moscow, then found me a couple turns later. i had bw and he backed off double wounded. i mopped him up with the kt from behind and thats the last i heard from him all game. i was sending the kt north to get kyoto (quit and left it empty) when i meet america. he is trying to sink me so i dump the kt and militia and sell the galley. later he brain farts and settles on the kt island. i win a 6-4 and take his 1 pop city. he is expanding in a big hurry in ancient. he then flips my 100 g city that was 3 squares from thebes. its looking bad, but i head for CoL to see if i have a chance. i use all my gold on a library and barracks. i get the free spy and a gl for my 1st gp. starting to look better. all they had to do was either camp my desert or get CoL 1st and i was dead. instead i get the trading post, then 1st to math, currency, and nav. i take back my city and set sail with elite cats to claim my blue island cities. he is out there hunkering down with AA's. i take a couple and he quits. the zulu quits right after. this guy has played 100's of games with america. it cracks me up how rigid his approach was, and how it almost worked.

[ITZ DENI3D]

played a game as egypt vs america, zulu, japan, and russian ai. settled with hgb and 3 desert. collected a decent amount of gold and then the zulu took moscow, then found me a couple turns later. i had bw and he backed off double wounded. i mopped him up with the kt from behind and thats the last i heard from him all game. i was sending the kt north to get kyoto (quit and left it empty) when i meet america. he is trying to sink me so i dump the kt and militia and sell the galley. later he brain farts and settles on the kt island. i win a 6-4 and take his 1 pop city. he is expanding in a big hurry in ancient. he then flips my 100 g city that was 3 squares from thebes. its looking bad, but i head for CoL to see if i have a chance. i use all my gold on a library and barracks. i get the free spy and a gl for my 1st gp. starting to look better. all they had to do was either camp my desert or get CoL 1st and i was dead. instead i get the trading post, then 1st to math, currency, and nav. i take back my city and set sail with elite cats to claim my blue island cities. he is out there hunkering down with AA's. i take a couple and he quits. the zulu quits right after. this guy has played 100's of games with america. it cracks me up how rigid his approach was, and how it almost worked.

Think I know who it is lol...

[danthechan]

Think I know who it is lol...

cod of war

[danthechan]

had a very fun comeback recently, my russia vs spain, aztec, ?, and arab ai. i start on a penensula, but can't walk as my 2 trees are the only ones on the extended viewing area. can't risk walking out of it with aztecs around. i meet an aztec WA at the mouth to the mainland, and i stay out of his range as he moves to attack tripoli. he fails there, and i eventually take it with a vet HA (no tech). i head towards his cap but in the mean time spain is just taking off. they are already about 10 techs ahead. the aztecs think i'm going to camp him so he kills my leading archer. this is fortunate as it enables my HA to knock out his defending WA with little risk. he quits and i find 2 more cities behind, conveniently connected with roads. i get back to moscow and load a loyalty AA and inf HA onto a galley, along with a couple settlers. he is ahead like 20-7 by now, but i have to at least try to suprise him. i have an archer on a hill by madrid and see another massive city behind it. i sneak up and attack it 12-12 with the HA. desperation has its merits, as i earn a gg for my bold attack. he gs's metalurgy and comes at me with a cannon army. i win a miracle with my AA and kill the defending army as well. now i'm moving on madrid and take it before he can retrench. he had to think it was all but over. metalurgy was such a bad call. riflemen, cruisers, or hold out for tanks would have all been better.

[newsgothic]

Agreed, Dan. Are cannons ever the right call? Not a fan of them.

Nice going.

[ITZ DENI3D]

Agreed, Dan. Are cannons ever the right call? Not a fan of them.

Nice going.

I learned the hard way cannons are terrible. It would be worth more building a library and teching tanks rather than cannons. They are completely underpowered. I mean they have the same attack as a tanks defense.

[danthechan]

played 1 ffa yesterday and went as french since i didn't recognize any of the players. turns out 2 were buddies, fuzzy bunny and someone. they swapped dem for nav on the 1st turn and it was uphill from there. . it was looking good when greece dropped off a single cat with galleon support at an outlying city. i didn't want to risk it so i formed a vet AA. then it loses 8-15 and i lose the city. i guess i should have kept going but i was completely over it by now. if i see those fools again i'm dusting off china or america.

a funny side note, i ran across these clowns a couple days ago. about 10 turns in, 1 turn apart, they both got taken out by ai. i laughed my butt off.

[newsgothic]

lol, what are the chances of that?

[ITZ DENI3D]

a funny side note, i ran across these clowns a couple days ago. about 10 turns in, 1 turn apart, they both got taken out by ai. i laughed my butt off.

Yep I've played them as well and they always lose lol. They always choose Spain and Greeks and trade tech. How the hell can you lose that?

[ITZ DENI3D]

Currently in the ice age with lil jeff 2626. I got CoR egypt against 2 Chinese players and Zulu. I settle at 3600 with 1 desert and winery and 2 sea tiles and no gold. I find Greeks and am able to threaten them at 3200 for 25g. I rush some warriors but I can't find any barbs except one that the Chinese took. I tech Pottery and BW and send 2 warriors out very far away, I get my first barb at 2100. Meanwhile the Zulu took out 1 of the Chinese and the other 1 (jeff) started teching fast. The Zulu end up lagging out so its just me and Jeff. My first Gp is an artist, I wait till the last 10 seconds to flip his city, I see another 1 2 turns away empty so I declare war on him with an archer. I get the walk in next turn for Monarchy . I get Feud from a friendly and tech fundy. I end up taking his cap with upgraded AA's, he got a GL from Monarchy. I'm at his last city and finishing him off then it freezes after I kill his AA even though no pause screen came up, I saw him try to pause it earlier and was suspicious but now I know... BTW I've never seen someone get as mad as this guy did lol...

[Flash Bang Over]

I played some ranked games last night. The first was a 4000 freeze. I just quit but thankfully didn't seem to record either way. Next was an easy win but no points.

Last was my spain against 2 x america and an Aztec. America is very close south east and Aztec is close south. Lose my first warrior to america 1.5 v 1.5. Did get a barb though. I lose my second warrior at same odds again, but named a tile so I manage a galleon and put another warrior on. Americans then get 7cog, uh-oh, trouble. But I sneak the galleon round and he is protected by his GH. Haha 166 gold for me and he hadn't even settled his second city. Easy from there.

I also played 1 H2H. Aztec just quit in 4 turns. Oh well anther free point.

[danthechan]

just had an awesome game as india vs aztec, spain, arabs, and zulu ai. get a decent gold start, but my area is void of resources (except my whale/coal cap). i'm preparing for an aztec horse rush (arizona realtor) when he gets taken out by arabs. the arabs continue on and take the zulu a few turns later. meanwhile i grab aw for the pyramid and am going to try a desperation legion drop. i use communism to get a barracks, plus a vet AA and 2 vet LA's. i drop them across the strait and take tripoli. i send the troupe north to tenochachan but before i get there he comes back at tripoli with a CA. i win 1 with a vet AA defending (getting an upgrade) but he attacks 8-12 with an AA and wins before i can heal. he vacates teno and i take it, then head back to tripoli. meanwhile he's flipped my 100g city, and the spanish are blowing ahead in tech, obsoleting the pyramid while i'm still at 4 techs. i retake tripoli with an incredibly lucky double wounding of his engineer AA with my AA, but really don't see a path to victory....until i send 3 LA's east and find madrid guarded by a single pike. the player messaged me that i had dumb luck. well, dumb was the operative word. he had a settled gl and a library/trading post. so now i only need zimbabwe to win. i head there along with a CA of my own. i am just slamming out single archers in the outlying caps to hold them long enough for the win. i whittle his lead AA down, then lose something like 24-16 with my cats. i feel like quitting but i'm going to try 1 more time. i use a road to get 2 more CA's up there in about 8 turns. i am beating back knights at tripoli, eventually forming a CA there to stop them. madrid is being hit by non vet knights with cruiser support. it might work but he attacks with an AA something like 8-5. i win and get loyalty. i get to monarchy and use my long saved gb on the castle. i lose another bad beat CA something like 30-18, but i eventually wear him down and take it. either of those 2 guys should have won, but i used luck and superior tactics to win the day.

[danthechan]

really don't see a path to victory....until i send 3 LA's east and find madrid guarded by a single pike. the player messaged me that i had dumb luck. well, dumb was the operative word. he had a settled gl and a library/trading post.

he followed up with another message saying enjoy my victory, it will be the only 1 i ever get against him. so of course we meet again yesterday. his spanish again, vs my egypt w/henge, germany, zulu, and french ai. i start good, getting my 100 g in 300. zulu takes france and sends a WA to the area between me and spain. i kill it with a HA and he quits (i will never understand the mentality of some players). i waste my time sending the army to madrid, but he had an AA in place. it (the HA) then rolls up and takes zimbabwe and paris. but gets flipped at the zulu 100g city by spain. so what did he do with a 12 attack (inf) HA in between paris and zimba? he waited about 15 turns then dropped it, a cannon, and single knight next to my barracks city. childs play for the CA lying in wait. who drops off a sea attacking force without some sort of defense? anyways my other HA takes germany's 2 cities in the other direction after skirting their choke with a galley. i get inf and a gg with that 1. as i'm preparing a galleon fleet to take madrid a friendly gives me steam....nice. my 1st CA loses 42-22, but i quickly mop up the rest of his units. he didn't have anything to say afterwards......hmm.

[Flash Bang Over]

Played a few more hard ffa wins. All as spain. Maybe I should stop using them. It was a personal goal to get top 10, but that then becomes top 5 and so on.

Anyway, against grumpy henos colossus egypt I was a bit worried. He was running away in tech but at least rome was the ai. While he had a big lead, apparently not such a big unit count. I took Thebes getting a library, colossus, barracks and market. He quit. England quit soon after and I had to kill no less than 4 archer armies in kyoto!!! What on earth was he going to do with them?

Next was again A DSI Evolver. He had quite a good game as Aztec taking 3 capitals but I got the great wall. That let me set up nice giving him an early tech lead and false sense of security. He destroyed my free temple in madrid the my barracks, that hurt a little but by the time he came with knights I was way ahead and had industrial, steam and loads of banked hammers.

Some good points for the wins too, they must be fairly high ranked.