its not that that part is fictional but it would ruin your suspension of disbelief. your mind believes what it wants to and it would just stop believing if there would be dead little girls all over otherwise you would be hitler or just have no emotion. the stronger the suspension of disbelif the harder it is to do bad things even in video games....
i guess so
but i heard about someone talking about some big scene in the game where if you save alot of little sisters instead of harvesting them.
also,the good ending is very emotional
Upon saving them you use a scary-looking plasmid, apparently, and they yell "No!" at you a few times in that adamant way a child does. You then rub them on the head with your plasmid-infused hand and they relax, then they thank you and scamper off to one of the vents.
it is said that the LS just vanishs through the next vent but without the BD protecting her, will she be able to keep herself alive?
is letting a little girl off to be hunted down by splicers really better than redeeming her from her fate?
Don't You Need To Harvest The LS's To Get Adm For New Plasmids Etc.
By rescuing them your stuck with the same ones Right???
haha no, that would suck. You just get less ADAM if you rescue them. But you are rewarded by someone i won't name here because of spoilers, for every 3 little sister's you save, and there is a VERY BIG reward at the end. I don't know how much ADAM you get from every little sister from harvesting them (80 for rescuing) but I've heard it equals out.Originally Posted by Plasma
So personally I'll go the Rescuing way, because i usually make the "right" decisions, and the VERY BIG reward sounds very tasty.
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The thing is balanced, i even think you get a little bit more adam by saving them, not entirely sure
i have a question are u able to use the little sisters as a shield against a big daddy shooting at u?
may sound stupid but what if you harvested quite a few and had a sudden change of heart and rescued the rest you ran across?
This game is scandalous! The inclusion of the "little sister" as an enemy is awful.
Horrible! Although you have the option to rescue the children, you also have the option to \"harvest\" the children, which results in them dying. Whether the game's violent natured storyline considers them human, or a non-human ghoul or something, they still look to much like a little girl to make this okay. I hate violent games, but even if I was a violent game fan I would still give this one star. Games need to teach the message that children should be safe and that's that. This is a scandalous, disgusting, foul game! It should be banned and taken off the market!
yo pantalaimon, ur weird like whoa, this is a game, if ur going to judge it on something like this now although weve known for a year wut was going to happen to them in the game, u should just never log onto here again, dont get me wrong, everytime i kill a loittle girl in the game i stay up at nite saying wut if until i cry myself to sleep and feel like cutting myself, haha, nah im just kidding.
anyways if ur so sensitive about meaningless stuff like this, just close ur eyes and let ur mom take care of the cute little ol' girls and leave the serious harvesting/rescuing to the gamers who actually like how the game gives u choice(there not forcing u to kill those innocent made up AI's.
P.S. Ya ☺☺☺☺ is weak
You get 120Adam for Havrvisting them, and 80 for Resquing them i have saved 1 and harvisted 5 im gunna save 3 in a row next befor i got and find the man him self
I just gotta say i love this game. Especially for the reason that it goes against the simple moral of not killing children. Finally a game that does in fact let you kill children. I might seem like a horrible person for saying this, but I have noticed the fact that children are not getting hurt in video games due to moral laws. This has been irritating me for a while, but i am now relieved.
btw hutzdani. I think you get 80 for rescuing and 160 for harvesting. I love harvesting coz of the ADAM. Me likes ADAM.
uh... what?
Heh. I killed 'em all.
Felt bad about it after I beat the game.
Saving them this time around.
the little sisters cant be hurt, infact it discusses this greatly in the audio tapes and deeply explains why. IF you want to know why the LS'es cant be hurt, play the game and especially near the end, collect as many audio tapes as you can.
ok this is a BIG spoiler and unless you beat the game DONT READ IT
at the end of the game after saveing every one of the LS's you go and have to kill Fontaine well more or less little sisters stab him to death after you kill andrew ryan if you harvested the LS's what happens new story or ending.
I saved every one and the rewards were good,but the greatest reward was the test of my humanity,I simply could not bring myself to be responsible for the death of a 3D little girl entity.
After each cut scene as you save them,it left me in awe of what a profound game this is (apart from the sucky last boss level,I hate bosses) however in this cut-scene as she says "No!" the slap sound is her smacking away the hand that is trying to save her,I am thinking the cut-scene is exactly the same as if you harvested the girl,but people are hearing the hand slap,mistaking it for a neck break.I cant imagine the developers would include such an unnesassary controvercy
Somebody answer I wanna know to and what happens when you are inTannenbaum's home?
I think Bioshock handled both the save and harvest animations quite well. Both are pretty cool. I've played the game both ways, harvesting them all and saving them all. I like both animations equally. When I was harvesting them, I didn't get the feeling (guilt) of killing a little girl, it was more like a demon with the human element removed. Kudos to them for coming up with those animations, they were both creepy, entertaining and impressive all at the same time.
I liked the save animation, but the harvest animation wasn't quite... I dunno, grotesque enough. I thought that there would at least be a bone snapping sound or something, but nothing of that sort was included. I'm not saying I would have liked to see or hear that, but I'm saying that I don't really feel guilty after the whole thing is done with.
i wanna know y they look like big ol' peices of crap after u harvest them. really... it looks like shiny doo-doo
The slug are inside their stomach, which produces the adam.
SLUGS*
10 char
I think in the death animation the girl could give a blood curdling scream that then gives way into the squeal of the slug. Female screams, and child screams are always terrifying to me. If you are gonna be a murderer, make the player learn to feel guilty or enjoy it...but then you'd have more parents qho want to blame video games instead of bad parenting for...etc. etc.
Since no slug is shown in the rescue sequence, does that infer that the slug is still in them...just no longer controling them? I wish it was more clear as to what you are doing to them in that process.
If you harvest the second half will be the same, it's just that when walking around after waking up in tannenbaums the little girls will make coments like "he's mean" or "stay back, he'll hurt you" ect. Instead of saying you're gonna be the savior. No real new story, but a different ending, i can spoil that too if you want me too, but it's all over this site elsewhere
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Oh really? I was hoping there would be less little girls and that how many you had harvested would change the count.
Yeah i was a little dissapointed too. I hought it would've been awesome if the game played differently from after you killed ryan. Like if you saved the sisters, play it the way it was. If you killed them you would be stuck under fontane's controll and have to do his biddings still, which would involve killing tenenbaum. sadly that wasn't the case
iv been murdering the little children the whole time (havnt finished game yet) but i rescued the first one i came across, so if i continue to harvest them will i be able to see this special cut scene at the end? keeping in mind that i rescued one?
I was going to write my own thread about this eerie feeling, but glad to find others of like-minds. I am only through about halfway of neptune (I think) and have found the idea of saving the little girls to be the only choice given that a little girl says thank you when saved and scurries away. Could I really have treated her as a monster and killed her? No.
I did have a question though. In the manual, it says that I could harvest the little sister for adam that risks her life, suggesting that there was a chance I could harvest Adam and not kill her.
Wouldn't the game be different if there was a meter of taking a little and taking all of it, killing her? Then I could harvest the adam and stop and not kill her.... Would the ethical question be different than having this be an all or none option? Still, I would save them everytime even with this "grey area"....
Thanks for reading.
Luda
Jeez dude, get a grip, it's only a game. Speaking of games, you seem to be in the wrong forum. I think you want the Mario Brothers forum.This game is scandalous! The inclusion of the "little sister" as an enemy is awful.
Horrible! Although you have the option to rescue the children, you also have the option to \"harvest\" the children, which results in them dying. Whether the game's violent natured storyline considers them human, or a non-human ghoul or something, they still look to much like a little girl to make this okay. I hate violent games, but even if I was a violent game fan I would still give this one star. Games need to teach the message that children should be safe and that's that. This is a scandalous, disgusting, foul game! It should be banned and taken off the market!
From what I've played so far, the LS's seem to be an integral and disturbing part of the game. But remeber that word..GAME. Not go and kill all the under 12's, but game. Fiction. Not real. Entertainment (although probably a moot point there.) Personally, I feel I will end up playing at least 3 times- once harvesting, once saving, once abit of both, to see what happens.
The integral factor, I feel, is that this is the source of power and upgrades- it is hard enough surviving on the basic, so why not take a bit more? As Atlas says, they are not little girls anymore, they are monsters.
The disturbing factor is harder. The first time I killed a Big bad blobbie ( Rosie the bouncer, I think), and thought hey, they ARE hard, and I took it down!- the first thing you hear is a little child asking Mr Bubbles to get up. That has to call to every parent that plays it- the feel sorry factor. This factor in the game makes you feel guilty for killing the big bad monster, just to get to the little monster (LS).
But, this IS a game. There are no real people, just pixels. I know we will get the normal cries of "oh, kids wont see it like that" etc, but try this one. The game is 18 rated. It means you are expected to have the maturity to differentiate real life from fantasy. If this is not the case, it will be a problem from your life, not 1 single game.
Anyway, this is the first game in a long time I have played and enjoyed most days since I got it, so in entertainment value, I reckon it was a good buy. Opinions are different for everyone, and one is no better than another.
Great post.
I personally think if you harvest you are raming your hand down their gullet... reaching the worm in their upper stomach and ripping it out. Just before the screen goes all... funny... the little sisters have their mouths WIDE open... and your hand looks like its going in for the gold...
The real question is... what do you do with the worm once you have it in your hand?? Dinner time or what?
mmm sea slugs.
And Saving you use the plasmid that Dr. T (ahahaha) gives you to kill the worm still leaving it inside the host... but dead or... dormant?
The only problem with that is that you have harvest the slug, which ALWAYS kills them.
Just to add,I take my time and retry and retry and retry to save as many lives as I can for any FPS I play,even if they where "meant" via to many enimes to to fight,I can find a way to save them.
Removing the option of going guns blaze'in to remove both the LS and GD is a slight insult to the way I play,I can understand the real reasons behind it gameplay being the minor reason the ESRB and their "ban" stick the other.
I can't wait till Fallout 3 and you cant kill children on it,then you will know steak has been baned from gamers.
meant to die LOL
you should see me paly halo and try and keep as many soldiers alive as I can its evil :P
I still scofff at it being a gameplay decision ,altho the game has no quick save system so i guess it might be OTT to try and fight and not have the LS die in some situations.....still that and the ESRB threating AO if they were not put into god mode leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth.
Actually, the Little Sisters can die...
*SPOILER*
When you get dressed as the Big Daddy and have to escort a Little Sister, she can die (very easily) in fact. Although Dr. T chides you if you let one of them die.
There's also an apartment in Olympus Heights in which you find a whole dead family (including three little girls). Not to mention the little girl in Fort Frolic that has been turned into a statue (in Cohen's Collection). I think that's the biggest reason I didn't have any qualms about dusting Cohen later, even though he helped me.
So I don't think the reason the LS are invincible is really because the ESRB said "No dead kids".
My biggest feeling of guilt comes from killing the big daddies, I love those big dumb guys. There are suggestions thoughout the game that the splicers overused the plasmids and Adam against advice and that's why they're all f***ed up, but the BD's and LS's have been abused. I feel no guilt killing the splicers but I'd have liked to have been able to save the BD's too, as well as the LS's.
Those LSs do not have the parasite, they are those that you rescued during the game. The only reason they follow you is due to the psychic conditioning they underwent for the LS program by Suchongs (this is explained in a radio transmition by Dr.T while you are going through the training course).
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