Where Vito Scaletta was born?
Was Vito Actually Born in America? Or perhaps in Sicily?
I already know about his old folks. They originally came from Sicily. But my detail question is; Was Vito born when they arrive to America or was he born when they still live in Sicily?
Lets debate this, gentlemen.
Regards,
Treadstone 71.
Last edited by Treadstone 71; 10-02-2008 at 04:49 AM.
born in america but his fathers are sicilian inmigrants or only his father i think...
and i think that he born...well an estimation is in 1924-25
Hmm so He was born in America. But I wonder if He fluently speak Sicilian.
I really want to hear Sicilian language in Mafia II. As we know, in 1st Mafia there's no characters speak with that language.
I think you mean "speak Italian", right? Sicilia as you know is a island of Italy, and the Sicilian speak Italian.Originally Posted by Treadstone 71
But I agree with you, even if Vito born in the US, he must speak Italian, almost all the Italian imigrants did.
Nope. Italian language ain't Sicilian language, it was different.I think you mean "speak Italian", right? Sicilia as you know is a island of Italy, and the Sicilian speak Italian.
But I agree with you, even if Vito born in the US, he must speak Italian, almost all the Italian imigrants did.
And most Sicilian (including me) won't describe themself as Italian.
so they dont considerate italians? hummm and you speak sicilian or italian? i think that maybe he will speak maybe one of the 2 languages but not shure
Well Treadstone 71, you are tottaly right, I research a little and in fact Sicilian language does exist, i didnīt know. Thanks for the info. Maybe devs from 2K czech use the Sicilian language, that will be ultimate perfection!
Here is the wiki search:
"Sicilian is a Romance language. Its dialects comprise the Italiano Meridionale-estremo language group, which are spoken on the island of Sicily and its satellite islands. Ethnologues describes Sicilian as being "distinct enough from Standard Italian to be considered a separate language. Some assert that Sicilian represents the oldest Romance language derived from vulgar Latin, but this is not a widely-held view amongst linguists.
It is currently spoken by the majority of the inhabitants of Sicily and by emigrant populations around the world. The latter are to be found in the countries which attracted large numbers of Sicilian immigrants during the course of the past century or so, especially the United States, Canada, Australia and Argentina.
Sicilian is not used as an official language anywhere, even within Sicily. There is currently no central body, in Sicily or elsewhere, that regulates the language in any way. However, the Center for Sicilian Philological and Linguistic Studies in Palermo has been researching and publishing information on the Sicilian language since its inception in 1951.
The autonomous regional parliament of Sicily has legislated to encourage the teaching of Sicilian at all schools, but inroads into the education system have been slow."
Exactly. I speak both of it. Many Sicilians were fluently speaks Italian, but Italians can't speaks Sicilian language. That's the funny truth.
Thanks man.Well Treadstone 71, you are tottaly right, I research a little and in fact Sicilian language does exist, i didnīt know. Thanks for the info. Maybe devs from 2K czech use the Sicilian language, that will be ultimate perfection!
I hope so. I wonder there's a lot Sicilian conversation there
Back to topic. I agree with Dbeat.
Vito was a son of Sicilian immigrant. That mean His father came to U.S. first, then Vito born there.
I remember on Mafia there were people speaking sicilian, I don't remember who, however I'm italian and I am sure about that. Maybe that's only for italians
There ain't no people or character in 1st Mafia who speak Sicilian.I remember on Mafia there were people speaking sicilian, I don't remember who, however I'm italian and I am sure about that. Maybe that's only for italians
I just hear Salieri speak Italian. Like cafone, capice, etc. That's it, no Sicilian there.
...in the mind of Daniel Vavra.
Hi, I'm italian. Maybe you don't know, but any italian region has it's own language, and in most parts of the country, language differs from town to town (matter of about 50 kilometers).
Unfortunately, mainly in northern italy and big cities, youngsters are loosing the ability to speak and understand these local languages.
I personally think it's a pity.
yes its not a romance launguage its a local laungage, the sicilian is derivated from the italian i think
You got the right lad
I'm Sicilian, and I proud of Sicilian language. But mostly, I don't like people equalize Italian language with Sicilian. We have our own language. And I think many of my fellow Sicilians have the same thought about that.
nope. any italian local language has it's own origins (the one spoken where I live, has some french influences, due to Napoleon's empire dependencies).
Italian national language is actually an evolution of Siena's town language (the town where the Palio is held). it was first used from Dante instead of latin.
@Treadstone 71: indeed, as I said, every italian region has its own language, and no one is truly italian language.
eeem you may mean regional variations...that is the way to say that in diferent regions the italian have variations..@Treadstone 71: indeed, as I said, every italian region has its own language, and no one is truly italian language.
As i searched...the sicilian have influence from the french, spanish etc...if its derivated from those (and more) i think that is a dialect...so my ethimology teacher though me that ..maybe im wrong maybe Treastone may teach me more about his language cos im very interested to know.
no no, I mean true Dialects, which deeply differ from one to another. It's not just inflection or pronountiation, but different languages with their own verbs, grammar, lexic, etc... Roughly each region has one. Instead, within each reagion (expecially in a few of them, like mine) each town has its own pronountiation and even a few different words.
Each regional dialect is so different that it requires considerable skills to be spoken from a "foreigner", expecially because of the inflection and "cadence" (does this word even exist in english?), just like different national languages that require a trained tongue to pronounce certain sounds correctly.
I can't even speak well the slightly different dialect of a town which is just 30km away from mine.
Last edited by mdsjack; 10-17-2008 at 01:37 PM.
ok ,got it
great. it's not easy to explain.
Hahaha you right amico. I've a funny story hooked up with quote in above. *LOL*
You wrong, dude. As Scalici mentioned before in 3rd podcast. Vito came to America when he was a little boy. That mean Vito was born in Sicily. So everything is clear now.
why would people care if vito was born in sicily or america the main point is the character we see in the game not his past
his past is also a very important point. i hope from some flashback cutscenes.
Just like Aristotle said, "If you would understand anything, observe its beginning and its development."why would people care if vito was born in sicily or america the main point is the character we see in the game not his past
but not were he was born more like his childhood his father growing him up and his relationship to his family and how he meet joe
his past reminds me with good ol vito corleone. don corleone fleeing sicily to seek refuge in america.
He was born in Si. didn't you read the pod.3???
who's didn't listen the 3rd podcast? what do you mean? of course everybody know that vito was born in sicily. at least right now, after the 3rd podcast.
Last edited by spoons30; 05-08-2009 at 05:46 AM.
I don't know
yes..the thing is that, that comment was from looong time ago when the info about mafia 2 was very poor
so just make a speculation at that time. let me tell ya, speculation is the mother of all fück ups! the better way to tell the truth is wait the official confirmation.
Don Corleone came to America to avoid being killed by Ciccio. And Vito came to America because of his parents.
I dont understand. Don Corleone is Vito Corleone. What do you mean?
he is talkin about vito scaletta.
that's what i'm talkin about.
vito had to be born in american making him a italian american because if he wasn't he would of been deported back to sicily when he got caught for the robbery instead of going to war.
mm no vito was born in sicily besides he go to america with his mother and his sister then he started to make robbery and they give him that options(in that time he have lived in america long enough to be considered an american)
o yea didn't look at it that way thanks.
Last edited by Dsmooth16; 06-10-2009 at 10:14 AM.
and with his father.
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