BUG: Not getting a great person

[Gollywog]

Had this happen to me last night where I had achieved two milestones which unlocked a great person. I had aquired a technology and received that 1st tech bonus of a great person (which usually gets attributed to you your next turn). At the same time, I had achieved the economy milestone that also gives you a great person (which once again usually only appears your next turn). Once I had completed all my actions, I proceeded to my next turn. On my next turn I was only given 1 Great Person where I should have gotten 2.

Anyone else had this happen? I'll see if I can do it again, but my initial reaction is that you will only get 1 great person even if you earned 2+ on your previous turn from achieving game milestones.

[The Panguin]

Yeah so far as I know you can only get one at a time. Thats why I always micromanage everything continually. Sure it annoys people but if I can delay my tech by one turn, econ by two and get a cultural great person next turn then that sure as heck beats getting all three at once but only getting one of the benefits. =P It isn't a major issue but meh. I find all the economic milestones glitchy. Telling me I just got banking when I already had it, my cities having two granaries (happened to me once but sadly only one did anything =P) and the whole great people thing. You just have to learn to live with it....or hope they fix it.

[eireksten]

This is with regards to how great people, culture and those bonuses work.

When you produce an amount of culture, you'll get a great person. The amount needed is dependent on how many great people you've gotten earlier. If you've gotten 1 GP earlier, the amount is 266, while after you've gotten 2 GP's this amount is 400.

Every great person counts towards this limit, including all gotten from economic milestones, tech, confucious or even the american starting GP (America will actually need 266 to get their first GP from culture, while other civs need only 150). I guess it'd be too easy to accumulate culture points if it worked in any other way.

Then to the explanation of what happened to you.

Whenever you get a "free" great person, this happens through you getting culture points equalling the next amount needed. Say the setting was as follows:

You've gotten one GP before, which means the limit is at 266. Currently, you've got 69 accumulated culture points (69/266). When you get those two "free GP" bonuses, you are therefore awarded 266 free culture points for each. This adds 532 culture points (2*266) to your pool. Suddenly your pool is at 601/266. The next turn, it recognizes this, and you get 1 great person, updating the culture bar.

Lets assume you got 15 extra culture points this turn. After that turn, you're now at 281 culture points (532+15-266). At the same time, the amount needed is updated to the next amount, so you're at 281/400.

So you got a lot closer to the next GP as well, but not enough. The reasoning behind this is that the "free GP" bonuses are awarding you culture points, and not directly the GP...

[PandaMana]

Very useful info, thanks, eireksten! How do you guys figure this stuff out??

[StraDawg]

The reasoning behind this is that the "free GP" bonuses are awarding you culture points, and not directly the GP...

Great info. Thanks!

[Mysterio]

Whenever you get a "free" great person, this happens through you getting culture points equalling the next amount needed. Say the setting was as follows:

You've gotten one GP before, which means the limit is at 266. Currently, you've got 69 accumulated culture points (69/266). When you get those "free GP" bonuses, you are therefore awarded 266 free culture points. This adds 532 culture points (2*266) to your pool.

Hmm...why are you multiplying 266 by 2, since doing so contradicts what you wrote in the first sentence?

[eireksten]

Hmm...why are you multiplying 266 by 2, since doing so contradicts what you wrote in the first sentence?

Since the guy got two of the "free great person" bonuses... I'll edit to clarify.

[Mysterio]

Since the guy got two of the "free great person" bonuses...

Ah, ok--I thought your scenario was based on receiving a single "free GP." Thanks for clarifying. For a minute, I thought I'd have trouble adding 2+2.

[Gollywog]

I think I will do what Panguin suggests, and just delay 1 of the Tech/Economic milestones so they don't both happen on the same turn.

The math explanation seems a bit cheap. If the game says I got a Great Person due to Tech, then tells me I got a Great Person because of an Econimic Milestone, I expect to get 2 free Great People, not 1. But it was a great explanation, and certainly shows why the bug is happening.

[Radren]

From what I understand it isnt a bug. It is intended. The more Great People you have the higher number of culture you need to get the next free one from the cultural milestone. Then this happened from him getting the free Great Person from technology which raised the number required for the next cultural milestone. and while (according to the post below) he still got the cultural bonus from both great people the bonus is still not sufficient to reach the milestone. If you do want to get both Great People though all it seems you have to do is micromanage the tech to be completed after you get the GP from the cultural milestone, not the other way around.

[Kikimalaka]

I was playing the Alpha Centauri scenario last night, trying for a culture win. I stopped getting great people. Is it possible that in a very long game all of the Great People get used up?

[eireksten]

I was playing the Alpha Centauri scenario last night, trying for a culture win. I stopped getting great people. Is it possible that in a very long game all of the Great People get used up?

In that case, you should have won by culture a very long time ago...

[kaffebarn]

In that case, you should have won by culture a very long time ago...

Not if he doesn't build united nations