Island city takeover?

[Quadraslam]

I was playing against the Chinese while I was the Greeks in a normal game when I discovered a city in the middle of the ocean on only one square! I attempted to take it over by sending a ship full of tanks and other ground units to take it by force, but there was no room to land since the entire city consisted of the tiny island. I flew in bombers to take out what I could, then attempt to land my ground units, but to no avail. I ended up just sending my only ICBM in his direction, instead of saving it for something useful. I know you can win in other ways including capturing just the capital cities, but is there any feasible way to take over an island city consisting of only one square?

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[ShadowXOR]

Your ground units can attack from a boat but get an attack penalty. I would use a Ninja Artillery Armor for best results, or Bombers (be sure and throw a Spy Ring in there).

[Quadraslam]

So it is possible? Maybe I just wasn't trying hard enough :P

[ShadowXOR]

So it is possible? Maybe I just wasn't trying hard enough :P

I think it could technically be impossible if they put heavily upgraded Modern Infantry on it with a wall and kept stacking more units every turn, I don't know how well it was defended. But it definitely is possible if they haven't focused on it too much. And if it has low culture you could potentially flip it with a Great Person.

[Quadraslam]

What naval units can attack land if there are any? Because I wasn't able to get anything to attack that city except air units.

[Xc0mmand0]

What naval units can attack land if there are any? Because I wasn't able to get anything to attack that city except air units.

You need to put units on the boats, and then you have them attack when the boats are up against the city. I would also put a Battleship fleet out there for the extra 27 attack power.

[Quadraslam]

I actually did have plenty of units on the boat, but I was unable to attack directly from the naval unit. Am I missing something? There was no room to land my units, there was only room for that city on the island. I tried numerous times to take over the city or just to attack it via ground or sea, I was only able to attack via air.

[ShadowXOR]

I actually did have plenty of units on the boat, but I was unable to attack directly from the naval unit. Am I missing something? There was no room to land my units, there was only room for that city on the island. I tried numerous times to take over the city or just to attack it via ground or sea, I was only able to attack via air.

I don't know if the unit you are on counts as naval support, I would put a Battleship fleet next to them to be sure.

[AoR Dewman]

I am pretty sure that you can't attack a city directly off a boat. Now if there are no units in the city I think you could take the city over after your air units destroyed anyone inside.

[ShadowXOR]

I am pretty sure that you can't attack a city directly off a boat.

Yes you can, but you suffer a penalty that lowers your attack power.

[AoR Dewman]

Yes you can, but you suffer a penalty that lowers your attack power.

I think that is only attacking a unit, I have never been able to attack a city off the boat.

[Koko]

If you want to attack directly from the boat you need to manually select each unit on the boat and attack the city using the up/down buttons (on ps3 anyway..) while the on the same square as your boat... If that makes sense.

I believe that's what your problem is. Although when you do this your units attack with half the attack power

[Ramhiser]

If you want to attack directly from the boat you need to manually select each unit on the boat and attack the city using the up/down buttons (on ps3 anyway..) while the on the same square as your boat... If that makes sense.

I believe that's what your problem is. Although when you do this your units attack with half the attack power

He is right on how you do this, and also, he is right about reducing attack power by half. If you attack by sea late in the game, you're gonna need to send in a spy ring followed by some ninjas.

[KrashKrunal]

Your ground units can attack from a boat but get an attack penalty. I would use a Ninja Artillery Armor for best results, or Bombers (be sure and throw a Spy Ring in there).

You can't send a spy onto a one tile city. The spies must attack from the ground, they can't attack from boats. I've tried that and failed.

I think it could technically be impossible if they put heavily upgraded Modern Infantry on it with a wall and kept stacking more units every turn, I don't know how well it was defended. But it definitely is possible if they haven't focused on it too much. And if it has low culture you could potentially flip it with a Great Person.

Actually it is possible. Just make a bomber squadran, move it to a square RIGHT next to the Veteran Battleship Fleets (maybe even on the same square). Now attack the city. The Bombers don't get a penalty (duh) and they'll also get the Battleships Naval Support bonus.

I actually did have plenty of units on the boat, but I was unable to attack directly from the naval unit. Am I missing something? There was no room to land my units, there was only room for that city on the island. I tried numerous times to take over the city or just to attack it via ground or sea, I was only able to attack via air.

As mentioned above, use the D-pad to select the unit and then move them onto teh square manually (one unit at a time).

[Virodeath]

Send in some spy's first, do some demo, take down fortifications, etc., late in the game I never attempt a single square island takeover with less than 3 spy rings, 2 armies of mobile infantry (I don't hastle with artillery), 1 tank army, 4 bomber wings, 1 battleship fleet or cruiser fleet (battleship preferred) and some fighter wing support. This may seem overkill (my style) but normally it is 1 force I make for doing my city siege and late in the game I am usually fighting with someone of equal tech. These forces are normally fully upgraded and take the city with ease.

I try to keep my bombers stationed at a city that can reach most anywhere on the map.

Hope this helps.

Viro

[KrashKrunal]

As I mentioned, you can't use spies when attacking from a ship. Bombers will be your best bet, and when the defence has been tired down, use the Artilleries and Modern Infantry in the ship to attakc and capture the city.

[xbman22x]

You can't send a spy onto a one tile city. The spies must attack from the ground, they can't attack from boats. I've tried that and failed.Actually it is possible. Just make a bomber squadran, move it to a square RIGHT next to the Veteran Battleship Fleets (maybe even on the same square). Now attack the city. The Bombers don't get a penalty (duh) and they'll also get the Battleships Naval Support bonus.As mentioned above, use the D-pad to select the unit and then move them onto teh square manually (one unit at a time).

planes dont get navel bonuses.

[bush man 2.0]

one word, NUKE lol

[1crywolf1]

yea but if its not something big or important its just a big waste

[Virodeath]

LOL I stole a GP just last night from a island that was one square and destroyed fortifications... Gota love this game...

Now that you mention it I do recall on a previous game trying to send in my spy and it not working which I thought was a bug at the time.

maybe patch 1.20 will fix it.......

Viro

[ShadowXOR]

LOL I stole a GP just last night from a island that was one square and destroyed fortifications... Gota love this game...

So you can send spies in from a boat? The other guy said you can't...

[King Bling]

I can't use spies direct from ship tried it a few times.

[Virodeath]

I did last night 100% sure of it, I could have won cultural/economic/tech but I wanted to destroy the cheat'in arse AI. Last two cities were capitol and an island. I took his capitol with overwelming force and had my ships (battleship fleet) ready outside the last city to fall before the end of the turn.

I sent in 2 spy rings, (destroyed fortifications & took GP just because I could & because I took the trouble to load the spy's) the GP seemed to be on the back side of the city (couldn't actually see him, had to select city units and scroll thru them after I took the city to move him onto the ships.

I do recall a game I tried to do this on before and the spy would not go, I thought it was a bug at the time since I didn't really see a reason they wouldn't be able to.

Viro

[Mysterio]

Thread necromancy! Arise, old thread--arise!

Elizabeth:

From a design standpoint, how are spies supposed to work when moving from a ship to a single-tile (island) city? Some players claim it works, others claim it doesn't. I tried it yesterday, but a big, red 'X' said, "Um, no...you can't do that." Can you get the official word from the design team, as this may be a bug? If they can't, then there's no way to infiltrate an island city with spies. That couldn't have been the design team's intention, could it?

[StraDawg]

Re: The Spy Thing

I've actually had this happen once or twice on land, not with the spy, but with other units laying siege to a city. I got the wrong red X (denied!) when I tried to attack. In all cases, I moved to a different square to attack and I got the proper red X (attack!).

[Virodeath]

Re: The Spy Thing

I've actually had this happen once or twice on land, not with the spy, but with other units laying siege to a city. I got the wrong red X (denied!) when I tried to attack. In all cases, I moved to a different square to attack and I got the proper red X (attack!).

I have been having this issue alot with bomber attacks. I have to attack from a certain square or I won't get the naval support.

Viro