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    New Demo Maps Each Week!

    Just to put the speculation to rest, Sid verified that the demo is unlocking a new map each week, ensuring that you'll have a new experience each week as you wait for the release.

    Gidyup.

  2. Each week? People have said that they've played four new maps. Though I got the demo on Friday and only seen two myself... (the second started on sunday, so it would make sense).

    Are these demo maps the same as the GOTW releases that it's unlocking, and is it possible to play the previous map?

    Thanks for the update though.

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    It's using the Game of the Week algorithm to determine what map is being played, so for the demo, you will not be able to return to a previous map.

  4. Ah, that will mean that we will be GOTW maps every sunday, that sounds good to me... though it only gives me sunday and the following saturday to do my best on them ... ah well...

    bigden, I know I've asked this before, but is it not even the tinest bit possible to sometime in the future, make the GOTW maps downloadable? (maybe a small file where the the game checks the number on the file as opposed to on the servers - and possibly allows saving - in essence they'd become additional scenarios after the week in which they featured is over.).

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    Agreed. It sounds really trivial, but its important to many players, including myself.

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    That settles it then There is one problem with GOTW then, if you want to call a guy best at civ. I've noticed that the resources are random and not static with the algorithm. This means that the game map will be different every playing round. Not that I care much, but it should be the exact same map if you want to have a fair competition. I will play online on random maps anyway!

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    They are the same if you pick the same leader and same difficulty. On Warlord with Rome there is always that nice city spot with plains, marble and oak trees. Its a fricken production BEAST with a granary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    They are the same if you pick the same leader and same difficulty. On Warlord with Rome there is always that nice city spot with plains, marble and oak trees. Its a fricken production BEAST with a granary.
    Not for me. Are you sure you are online? Before Egypt had one starting pos and rome another. On the new map I have both begin in the south part of the world and have the aztecs just a few tiles away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magwill View Post
    Not for me. Are you sure you are online? Before Egypt had one starting pos and rome another. On the new map I have both begin in the south part of the world and have the aztecs just a few tiles away.
    The map where you start in the south part of the world in the map we are on now. Just to the north of that is Marble and an Oak tree. Between you and the Aztecs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magwill View Post
    Not for me. Are you sure you are online? Before Egypt had one starting pos and rome another. On the new map I have both begin in the south part of the world and have the aztecs just a few tiles away.
    Indeed, those are different maps. The first one you mentioned is from last week, and the second one is from this week. I havent played much online however so it may different.

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    With GotW, every single element will be exactly the same, down to the resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigden View Post
    With GotW, every single element will be exactly the same, down to the resources.
    Ok so the demo is just based on it but not exactly the same. Thats good to hear

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    I think you can go back to a previous/the first map if you are online...it gives you a notice when you try to start and it cannot connect to your network profile

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    Question

    y not get the actual game and then get a new map everytime you play????

  15. Great, that means the guide I wrote up isnt going to work anymore. I've mastered the map were the egyptains are just a few tiles awayfrom the Aztecs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganon842 View Post
    Great, that means the guide I wrote up isnt going to work anymore. I've mastered the map were the egyptains are just a few tiles awayfrom the Aztecs.
    No offense, but those type of guides wont be much help when the real game comes out because non-GOTW maps are always randomly generated. Its a good start though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganon842 View Post
    Great, that means the guide I wrote up isnt going to work anymore. I've mastered the map were the egyptains are just a few tiles awayfrom the Aztecs.
    See it as practising for GOTW gaming :P

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    What day of the week does the new GOTW map come.......I've forgotten when I played the second map for the first time

  19. The maps will come out every Sunday.
    Quote Originally Posted by Magwill View Post
    Ok so the demo is just based on it but not exactly the same. Thats good to hear
    Umm... we ARE playing the GOTW maps. The resources DO appear in the same place. Try playing the demo again a few times, and you'll notice the resources are ALWAYS in the same place. All of us have found that to be the case, how can you not

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    Exclamation GOTW exploit?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigden View Post
    Just to put the speculation to rest, Sid verified that the demo is unlocking a new map each week, ensuring that you'll have a new experience each week as you wait for the release. It's using the Game of the Week algorithm to determine what map is being played.
    In this case the GOTW algorithm could be a problem: I have no console but received confirmation from an XBox 360 player that the demo offers other maps after adjusting the system clock. If these maps would be the GOTW maps then anybody could play those maps weeks in advance for optimized results.

    In a competitive environment GOTW maps should be secret until their official release. I thought Firaxis would publish a secret GOTW map seed number each week on the official website or something like that. GOTW map seed numbers based on the system date would be easily exploitable. Or is this just the case with the demo version?
    Last edited by ColdFever; 06-11-2008 at 12:37 AM.

  21. From the looks of things the demo version IS playing the GOTW games, which would mean that if I go home, change the date, I should essentially be able to play any map I so please... it could essentially mean that I can play the maps even after the week is over... and on yhe PS3 changing the date isn't a big problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdFever View Post
    In a competitive environment GOTW maps should be secret until their official release.
    Im sure they will be when GOTW does become competitive, ColdFever.

    It's also quite likely that the maps for the demo are just randomly generated maps, rather than specially edited ones, designed to present a much tougher challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigden View Post
    you will not be able to return to a previous map.
    but yesterday i played an older map after i got the new shouldnt it be the same until new map comes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icejon View Post
    but yesterday i played an older map after i got the new shouldnt it be the same until new map comes?
    Thats cool. I have not been able to play the older map yet. Online or offline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skippy View Post
    It's also quite likely that the maps for the demo are just randomly generated maps, rather than specially edited ones, designed to present a much tougher challenge.
    You're making quite a leap there, assuming the GOTW maps will be something other than the same randomly generated map for everybody. From the looks of things, it looks like that's exactly what they will be.

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    Quick question, is the Demo for Civ Revolution available on the European PSN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrashKrunal View Post
    The maps will come out every Sunday.Umm... we ARE playing the GOTW maps. The resources DO appear in the same place. Try playing the demo again a few times, and you'll notice the resources are ALWAYS in the same place. All of us have found that to be the case, how can you not
    I just wrote that I've experienced the resources changing, so obviously I have already played the same map several times and I'm not stupid, so the resources did change, no question about it

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    Resources do change. The first time I noticed was on the original demo map, where there's a mountain in the middle of the central landmass that sometimes, but not always, had gems. So, since bigden kindly confirmed for us that the GotW will always have the same resources, clearly the demo maps aren't exactly like the GotW.

    As far as being able to play the GotW ahead of time, I assume that the GotW maps will be generated based on a server timestamp, while the demo maps are generated based on a console timestamp. That seems to be the most consistent with what Firaxis has said and what we've seen so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dire Wombat View Post
    Resources do change. The first time I noticed was on the original demo map, where there's a mountain in the middle of the central landmass that sometimes, but not always, had gems. So, since bigden kindly confirmed for us that the GotW will always have the same resources, clearly the demo maps aren't exactly like the GotW.

    As far as being able to play the GotW ahead of time, I assume that the GotW maps will be generated based on a server timestamp, while the demo maps are generated based on a console timestamp. That seems to be the most consistent with what Firaxis has said and what we've seen so far.
    Guys, Ive been reading this forum about game of the week maps and how they change and some people setting their time forward but i dont get it?

    Can someone explain this to me... When you go online isnt it a random generated map and not always the same or is it going to have the same map for the whole week and then next week change it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cipher 8 View Post
    Guys, Ive been reading this forum about game of the week maps and how they change and some people setting their time forward but i dont get it?

    Can someone explain this to me... When you go online isnt it a random generated map and not always the same or is it going to have the same map for the whole week and then next week change it?
    You can't change your clock to get a different game of the week. It uses the server's clock, not your own.

    And for the record, there are four possible maps on the demo. That's it. After four weeks it cycles back to the first one.

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    Guess the new maps really do come out on sundays. Got a new map today, it's one main island in the general shape of an elongated C, the Romans starting at the bottom middle, the Egyptians starting out at the upper right. Gotta play it a few more times to be able to get the economic/cultural wins hehe, seems tougher than the last map.

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    I got it too, notice how the aztecs are on an island by themselves, i hated that but i managed to land an invasion force on the north and south ends and got my Dom victory ^^

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    ever single time i play the demo i play the same map idk if it is just me but ever one been saying that they have played on 4 different maps o.0

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