I finished reading the Fountain Head, after i finished reading Atlas Shrugged, and all I can say is wow. The books give you a whole new perspective on the game, and parts I thought were insignificant suddenly became extremely relevant to the theme of the game. One part in particular, 'Ryan didn't believe in Rapture, he believed in power'.
I know there are threads about the books
I'm sure gonna read it then. I'm not sure Ryan was out for power in the first place, if he was he wouldn't build Rapture on all it's idealistics. With the intelligence and funds he has to create such a think he would get power easier on the dry. But he indeed kept controll over Rapture and defended his idealistics all he could. Two sayings perfectly fit Ryan I guess Power corrupts and The goal justifies all methodes.
I think I'm gonna read them too. They'll probably give some new perspective of the game, and my friends seem to like them... Just wish I had more time for reading. :P
I Really Want To Read The Books. Where Can I Find The At? Thanks
I always get my books online at nice cheap prices.
Yeah, I agree. I've gotten books online for $1.50 once. Lol.
~Mari.
Holy smokes that cheaper then a family pack of toillet paper!Originally Posted by BioShock Freak
I've been interested in reading Atlas Shrugged too since I first heard about it. So far have had no luck finding it anywhere, looks like if i want it i'll have to get it through Amazon or something. Would like to read The Fountainhead too. I don't read as much as i used to anymore but if i really get into them i would do. Since there's no actual Bioshock book (one day maybe?) well an official one anyway, Atlas Shrugged sounds good to me
i read atlas shrugged too, its amazing, i watched all of ayn rands vids on youtube, watch her donahue interviews btw, they are great. Atlas Shrugged is by far the greatest book of all time, who was your favorite character? mine's a toss up between Francisco and Dagny is pretty badass...
how many books are on the same topic? Just atlas shrugged and the foutainhead?
I was just talking to my aunt and what do you know, she had bought Ayn Rand's complete collection at a garage sale 10 years ago for $10. I will be getting them tomorrow! I'm excited.
they arent on the same topic at all, though they do contain Rand's philosophy. Read Anthem first (which is what i did) its only 100 pages and really good. If you like that then invest your time in the others
Is there a series or is every book an independent?
LUCKY!!!!!! I want to get Atlas Shrugged so bad!!!!!!!!!
Barnes and Nobles, here I come!
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WOW. That IS a good deal!
But Doc, Barnes and Noble won't have it for anything remotely close to how cheap he got his. LOL. You're looking at up to $50 for Atlas Shrugged alone! Lol. Be prepared!!!!!
Barnes and Noble Ayn Rand's books.
~Mari.
Atlas shrugged is 8.95 on amazon, but that is for a soft cover so i dont know about hard boundWOW. That IS a good deal!
But Doc, Barnes and Noble won't have it for anything remotely close to how cheap he got his. LOL. You're looking at up to $50 for Atlas Shrugged alone! Lol. Be prepared!!!!!
Barnes and Noble Ayn Rand's books.
~Mari.
I'm an English Literature major, and all of my time spent in university has been devoted solely to the study of literature and to the art of storytelling. This being said, Atlas Shrugged is the second-best work of literature I have ever read. It is not only a cornerstone of the heroism in twentieth-century American capitalist philosophy, but a testament to the vast rewards implicit in social structures providing incentive for human-beings to realize their potential into manifested actuality.
They're going to have The Fountainhead at every bookstore in the world. Or at least I have never been to one that didn't have it. I would recommend checking it out of your local library to see if you even like it.
So I'm about 50 pages into "The Fountainhead". All the Bioshock themes are popping up already.....and the main character is like Ryan....
whats number one?
Barnes and Nobles website has Atlas Shrugged for about $18 Thats not bad at all. And thats hardcover!WOW. That IS a good deal!
But Doc, Barnes and Noble won't have it for anything remotely close to how cheap he got his. LOL. You're looking at up to $50 for Atlas Shrugged alone! Lol. Be prepared!!!!!
Barnes and Noble Ayn Rand's books.
~Mari.
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Yeah, I know! But I don't think I'd ever have the patience or time to read that book. Lol. It's thousands of pages long. I think it's one of the longest books ever. So I've heard.
~Mari.
lol rly? How many thousand pages is "thousands of pages."
btw Mari, nice new avatar
After being heavily influenced by Bioshock (and seeing how I am an American currently living in one of the most socialistic nations in the world -- Canada), I spent this past school year first reading The Fountainhead, and I must say, it is the most noble and logically profound means of living one's own life. It also gave me a whole new regard for altruism - or politically, socialism. Both of which deprives the individual of his values, and makes his whole purpose of life to live for the sake of others.
As for Atlas Shrugged, never have I read such rational method of thinking, as well as pursuing productivity. Atlas Shrugged has been featured in a survey regarding the 100 most influential books in the last century or so - Atlas Shrugged being the second most, and the Bible being first. It has beaten out the likes of LoTR and several others.
When I first observed the title, I thought it was a tragedy, I was way off.
Given the circumstances with todays' current affairs, I strongly insist that every American (more so) read this book, and understand how crucial it is to live for one's own happiness, and no others. America is seeing an incredibly unfortunate decline, and all points to the unnecessary and way outdated resource - oil. Not to mention our increasing dependency and justification through trade from China.
If you want a tidbit of what the book has to offer, might I suggest to you this link, demonstrating the core of what the book empathizes (John Galt's speech)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=STnUlpHf720 (it's a user-made trailer of the movie using Lionhead Studios: The Movies, which is really cool to boot, minus the unfitting techno)
Although many of you disagree, I believe a movie would be tremendously entertaining and appeal to all walks of life, and easily more accessible considering the book's 1100 or so pages.
READ THE BOOK
WHO IS JOHN GALT?
John Galt is stopping the motor of this board. Lol, back on topic, I think Atlas Shrugged is quite an interesting book, but I have heard that it gets quite boring in parts. Maybe when I have more time I will.
Oh, it also has 1168 pages.
Yes, you are correct. In particular the beginning can be incredibly dull and pointless. It wasn't until I was like near 300 or so pages in when I started reading nonstop. I want to also point out the exaltation that comes with reading the key points in the novel. Most associate exaltation with self-sacrifice or finding God, but Ayn Rand describes it when you take pride in accomplishing or sustaining yourself, which after reading, I can understand concisely. (and you can too!)
People should seriously consider reading this book. Ms. Rand has talked about how whimsical society has become, or how guilt obligates them, establishing an individual to slave status and to accommodate to the mindset of others.
I might pick it up next time i'm in Romfrod then, occupy most of my time, but if it is a good book its worth reading.
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Atlas Shrugged is ridiculously long, and I've got the attention span of a rodent... and my town's library doesn't have a copy, so I'm out of luck until my birthday most likely...
I read We the Living. That's got... well next to nothing to do with BioShock, but it was still pretty good.
It's got an Andrei... that counts for something right?
I started reading We The Living myself, out of knowing it is the closest piece of literature you'll get to a Ayn Rand auto-biography. However acknowledging the fact that it is a tragedy has gotten me discouraged. I'll finish it nonetheless.
As someone previously suggested the quickest way to get a whole idea on the matter is to read the Anthem. I was able to finish the novella in one sitting while flying. I also found it to be the most inspirational, and the nearest to poetry.
Much rejoice!
I've finally started reading Atlas Shrugged, with the hope that I'll find the true depth of Bioshock. 930 pages yet to go...
Dr. Splicer!
Funny that you wish all americans, the inhabitants of maybe the most individualistic country, to read a book that advocates egoism and capitalism. I would say they know a bit about that. Isn't for example their (relatively high) dependence on oil a result of capitalism?
Well, looking forward to continue reading Atlas Shrugged... It has a brilliant title btw!
/PTTP
Negative, although America is a considerably capitalistic nation, that goes title goes to United Emirates, and I think H.K. or Singapore. So long as America is endeavoring in humanitarian work or has "their hands in everyones' pockets" that won't be the case. We have a significant welfare portion of the country and that is where some of the taxpayers money is headed towards. (SSNs too is a socialistic aspect)
Oil, to some extent is a result of capitalism, (however when one examines how long oil has been used as a resource, it is a testament of how behind we are. Oil tycoons run the country considerably, having said that, they shunned any particular research to replace oil i.e. electric car, air-compressed engine)
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