Xbox 360:
Pros:
- Bigger screen in most cases
True Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound
Achievments
Cons:
- Not Full DirectX 10
Lots of people prefer mouse and keyboard for FPS
More expensive to buy
PC
Pros:
- Better Graphics with DX10
Mouse and Keyboard
Cheaper to buy
Cons:
- No Achievments
Smaller Screen in Most cases
No Dolby Digital
I still can't descide what version to buy because my PC is good enough to play Bioshock at Very high settings, and I have a 360 on my 26" Samsung. ITS A PAIN LOL
well most HD TVs allow for comps to be connected to them (if thats what you have)
Thats my setup, but sadly using the computer means sitting on the floor and using the coffee table as a desk... my bum is sore and the floors are tile (+rug) and this is most uncomfortable in winterOriginally Posted by lurchibald
well most HD TVs allow for comps to be connected to them (if thats what you have)
I'm taking the 360 version
Adding to list:
360 pros:
- force feedback
- easier to switch between powers/weapons etc due to placing of button comparitive to stretching for keyboard buttons (very arguable point I think)
- easier patching and no installing so no chance of "compatibility issues"
cons:
- more chance of red ring of death on your console than there is of "compatibility issues" with your computer
I asked this in my first post a long time ago but I'll ask again, does anyone know if Bioshock using all 3 cores of the 360 does something special? Like better water effects or physics or something?
Xbox version is cheaper in the long run because you never have to upgrade your xbox, and the graphics on xbox are always very good as opposed to a PC which is variable.
It's probably about like speed holes- it makes it go faster.
Also there is an attachment that allows you to use a mouse and keyboard on you xbox, can't remember the name though.
what does that mean? and what version are you talking about?
I thought that was only a keyboard and only for MMORPGs
No you can plug in a USN keyboard into your 360 right now and use it for chatting/typing messages and names and profile names/mmo chatting. The attachment he's talking about was soemthing some korean company (I think) came up with. It allowed you to use a kd+mouse for fps's. I heard it wasn't that sensitive or something, there were some issues with it but I can't remember specifics. It was also a bit pricy so it didn't take off well.
I was replying to Shoitaan about BioShock using the 3 cores of the Xbox 360's processor by using a simpson reference to imply that it probably makes the game run faster and smoother than if it just used one core.
not true really, if you have a full compliment of plasmids and weapons with the X360 you have to spend precious time cycling through them to get the one you need (and if you accidentally press the cycle again or too far you risk precious time in fire-fights) where with the PC you have better Key-mapping and can access your plasmids faster (depending on the set-up)Adding to list:
360 pros:
- easier to switch between powers/weapons etc due to placing of button comparitive to stretching for keyboard buttons (very arguable point I think
Haha I got the reference but I didn't know it was directed at me. I actually tried looking up the clip on youtube to ink for the guy but sadly, no luck
Faster and smoother is nice but I'm pretty sure my computer could hold the 30fps steady. I was hoping for something more... like smarter/deadlier AI or advanced physics
Also in my previous post: USB keyboard, not usn.. wtf is USN????
Like I said, it was an arguable point
I don't know about bioshock (obviously) but in other shooter games I found the accessability of buttons for grenades (especially grenades!), reloads, dodging, weapon switching superior to that of PC. But of course, the games that sprang to mind as I wrote that didn't have the.. "extended" arsenal thats available in Bioshock. We'll have to see how that pans out
I never saw any kind of D-Pad weapon swap-wheel in the demo. It does always seem to be switching until you get the right one.
I can't help you with your decision. I'm getting the 360 version because my computer is only 1 Ghz and I'm in love with HDTV. Plus, I know at least 3 or 4 people that want to come watch me play it when I get it. Luckily my living room has many chairs.
Thats why i put "In most cases"well most HD TVs allow for comps to be connected to them (if thats what you have)
was talking about "Your" TV
orite sorry mate, ye I can connect my PC to my TV. So screen size isn't really an option.was talking about "Your" TV
Sorry I meant isn't really a problem. Can you help me descide, My PC is powersful enough to run the game on High/Very High settings: Core 2 Duo, 2GB ram, 8800GTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!
i would hope so, i mean it should be able to do at least high settings
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Actually in the on stage demo they show a wheel for switching weapons.
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--- Pros and cons ---
PC:
- More expensive machine to run the game properly.
- Game cheaper.
- You can choose control: mouse and keyboard or gamepad.
- Online connection needed to activate game.
- No achievments.
- DX10 on Windows Vista
- Possibility to get higher resolutions and filters (AA and AF) depending on your machine, of course.
360:
- The console is cheaper.
- The game is more expensive.
- Control only with gamepad.
- No activation online needed.
- Achievments (online connection needed).
- No installation needed.
Another pro to add to the PC version is the customizable interface, as stated in the GameSpot E3 '07 Stage Demo for BioShock.
You don't need to be online to get achievments.
I NEED THE FINAL DECISION, WHICH VERSION SHOULD I GET?
My PC:
-Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 2.42GHz
-Asus P5N-E SLI
-2GB Kingston DDR2 667 (Dual Channel)
-320MB BFG 8800GTS Overclocked
I can have my 360 and PC hooked upto my 26" Samsung HDTV, and both are hooked up to my Logitech Z-5500 5.1 system. I don't mind using controller or Mouse & Keyboard. What do you think?
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Well, 3 cores (in some cases) 1 core takes care of 1 task in particulaire...so (exemple, im most proberbly completely wrong)
1 core for water effects(PWNAGE)
1 core for various other visuals(prettyness)
1 core of physics and mathematical equations(AI)
again, i could be completely wrong...but lets say your in a fire fight, only 1 core will be understress and the others can assist it...but with 1 or 2 cores...if 1 is understress, its either
1. screwed
2.barely helped
so id go with xbox and its triple core pwnage! And anyways...big ass HDTV...whats not to like?(except controllers...they should make a keyboard and mouse adapter for xbox!)
I'd assume the final choice is up to you based on the pros and cons in this thread. If your PC meets requirements, and you have a 360, it's what you want more.
I like Keyboard and mouse for FPS, and the PC version will look better because of DX10, but 360 has achievments. I think I will go with the PC version.
You can't directly compare console CPUs to PC ones. They run processes a lot differently. It isn't so much as 1 core does this and one core does that on the 360. Its one core does everything and the second helps out. The third is specially programmed for use with the Blade OS. So it is basically a dual-core CPU. The PS3's cell can be programmed to assign specific tasks to specific SPEs, mostly because they are not real cores.Well, 3 cores (in some cases) 1 core takes care of 1 task in particulaire...so (exemple, im most proberbly completely wrong)
1 core for water effects(PWNAGE)
1 core for various other visuals(prettyness
1 core of physics and mathematical equations(AI)
again, i could be completely wrong...but lets say your in a fire fight, only 1 core will be understress and the others can assist it...but with 1 or 2 cores...if 1 is understress, its either
1. screwed
2.barely helped
so id go with xbox and its triple core pwnage! And anyways...big ass HDTV...whats not to like?(except controllers...they should make a keyboard and mouse adapter for xbox!)
On PCs games and programs are threaded (thats the technical term) to use the cores at the same time. They split the tasks up into however many parts as there are cores.
The technical terms for how this works is in-order processing (360, Cell, and Wii) and out-of-order processing (PCs). I could be getting those backwards, but I don't think so.
On the latest podcast, he said an 8800 graphics card will MAX IT OUT and the DX10 features make it look even better.
I wish he would have said which 88 he was talking about. Though I'm sure at 14x9 I'll be fine with my 320 and setting everything to max and cranking up AA and AF.
Because he didn't state which 8800, that means any 8800 i.e. and 8800GTS/GTX/Ultra. I will also be playing at 1440x900, I also have a 320mb 8800GTS and we should be fine to play on MAX with everything cranked up
I intend to, even if I have to do it via the NV control panel, put AA and AF at their highest settings and see how well it runs.Because he didn't state which 8800, that means any 8800 i.e. and 8800GTS/GTX/Ultra. I will also be playing at 1440x900, I also have a 320mb 8800GTS and we should be fine to play on MAX with everything cranked up
Side note: This is not always a good idea with every game. DiRT kills systems....
PC Pros for me:
I will be able to run it fully maxed out if the podcast info is correct. (8800GTX/4GB Ram/C2D 3.3Ghz here)
I already have a large PC screen
It's cheaper than buying it for my 360
I can use my 5.1 speakers on my PC
Mouse/Keyboard obviously
Can fraps cool stuff and share it.
I have a 360 and I recently upgraded my PC literally about 4 days ago so this is why I switched to the PC version.
May aswell class the 8800GTX/Ultra as the same since the Ultra is pretty much an overclocked GTX, of course the Ultra is faster if you overclock it.Because he didn't state which 8800, that means any 8800 i.e. and 8800GTS/GTX/Ultra. I will also be playing at 1440x900, I also have a 320mb 8800GTS and we should be fine to play on MAX with everything cranked up
I reckon you will be fine with the 8800GTS 320MB, definately.
Just wanted to mention that the latest article on Cult of Rapture confirms that the PC version can use the 360 controller, and it supports feedback.
Oh that's interesting, I have a wired pad just for my PC so that may be something to consider.
sadly, my computer isnt good enough to probably play this game as well as it could on the 360, otherwise I probably would have got it on both systems lol. I have always preferred the mouse and keyboard setup when it comes to fpss, but Im sure I will get use to the controller setup.
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Buy both, one for the X Box and one for the PC.
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