i m really curious about this one ,didn t really find clear info on this anywere,please post what you know of this
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i m really curious about this one ,didn t really find clear info on this anywere,please post what you know of this
There's been no word on any form of DRM yet, have to say after the Diablo 3 fiasco I'm actually quite glad to own an xbox instead of a pc for once.......however I'm sure that will fade soon enough.
damn it ,i do my gaming on pc and while there is no prob for me to play sc2 online always (thats really the point of sc2) with diablo things kinda suck
and i whouldn t like to have lag anoying lag ,and i whould really like to own a single player game that i buy ,i don t like the ideea of my content being dependent of the devs after i payd money for it
Totally agree, I don't pretend to understand the ins and outs of anti piracy measures but being unable to play a single player campaign without an internet connection and suffering lag because of it is just....well....retarded!
GOD I hope not!Originally Posted by alexey7891
This is the only thing i really hate about diablo 3 (sc2 not so much bc its a competitive game so you are online anyway).
While arguably the most effective kind of DRM it's also the most annoying one(for single player games ).
Personally I bet they will go with Steam since it's the easier and less expensive way.
hope so ,i really want to enjoy this game
Well strictly speaking you NEVER actually "own" a game you bought.damn it ,i do my gaming on pc and while there is no prob for me to play sc2 online always (thats really the point of sc2) with diablo things kinda suck and i whouldn t like to have lag anoying lag ,and i whould really like to own a single player game that i buy ,i don t like the ideea of my content being dependent of the devs after i payd money for it.
All you get by buying software are the rights to use said software.
Unless you buy it for a console. Then you own it.
own meaning being able to play offline
They could try running adverts like this again........I know it made me shape up and stop downloading hours worth of entertainment for free
What I meant was that the only thing you legally "own" is the dvd you bought.own meaning being able to play offline
For the game you only gain a "license" which means you are allowed to use the game under the gven terms of service.
The crucial difference here is that they can block your game if you violate their terms of service.
lollollollollo never saw this ,in my country piracy is at a very high level,but there are also many people like me that buy a game ,so the thing is piracy won t be stoped because not all people have money for games or even software like ps or even win7They could try running adverts like this again........I know it made me shape up and stop downloading hours worth of entertainment for free
it never happened taht i get blocked after i bought a dvd ,wgat do you do to get blocked ?just curious
Well it's really only an issue if the game relies on a service like steam ,origin, etc.
Basically you can get banned for serious violations of the terms of service.
I don't think Firaxis will go the route of "persistant online" DRM.
If they do, they should probably prepare for a "base assault"... lol
Well, yeah, I guess with multiplayer unlock codes, but I'm a distinctly single-player kind of guy. I only play multiplayer if I can smack the guy next to me on the couch for being a jerkass.own meaning being able to play offline
Spitscreen: It kept people polite.
I used to play with marines, it didn't keep them polite, but I could always throw them out for eating my food and buming my gear when they got annoying. Also the running down the hall to the other barracks room just to yell "IN YOUR FACE!" with system link is something we all miss. But now I don't have to have 15 friends I can play with 15 random drunk Australia's almost anytime. (I live in Japan so I always get put in games with Australia's.)Well, yeah, I guess with multiplayer unlock codes, but I'm a distinctly single-player kind of guy. I only play multiplayer if I can smack the guy next to me on the couch for being a jerkass.
Spitscreen: It kept people polite.
Well, it's probably more polite than some of the vitriol and sputum that a thirteen-year-old can spew over XBL.
I hope it WON'T be on Steam, at least not exclusively, because I already got screwed when Paradox Interactive released Warlock: Master of the Arcane on there. I can never get Steam to work so I lost $20 on that deal. If it's released only on Steam I won't be buying it, which would be a damn shame because this updated version looks very cool.
Well, the CE will be a boxed edition but with Civ 5 even the boxed edition had to be registered on Steam before you could play.
I hope it doesn't use steam exclusively. I can get steam to work alright, but steam takes what should be a quick 10-30 minute install into hours of wrestling with my poor internet connection, and its refusal to install games from the disc without wrestling with systems outside of steam.
There is also the issue with steam wanting to auto patch without my permission, which has caused me to be unable to play shogun 2 until I drag my desktop into town at a friends house.
Oi, I miss the days when DRM meant typing in a bunch of numbers that served as a distraction from playing the game, rather than an uphill struggle for the hope of installing the game in one night, let alone playing it.
And developers miss the days when it was impossible for millions of illegal copies of their games to be distributed on launch day. Back then, the thieves had to buy floppies (not cheap), figure a way to copy the game (time consuming), and physically distribute it to one friend, maybe two.A buddy of mine was a real computer whiz back then (around 1990), and he had at least 50 pirated games on disc. Maybe 10-15 of them actually worked right. Now you just press a button, and 10,000 of your closest friends get perfect copies within minutes.
And unfortunately, developers continue to use this as evidence of lost revenues justifying implementation of ridiculous DRM schemes, when in reality, maybe 10% of those people would have actually bought the game in the first place. I'm sure the lack of real demos for most games also doesn't help (which should be released BEFORE the release of the game, not months later).
I just hope its a steam activation and that's it. I have never had a steam drm issue and can copy the whole steam directory without having to reinstall the games when my harddrive craps out or if I need to reshuffle my harddrives. In my experience, I STEAM is the most benign drm scheme I have used.
I'm not going to say it's a one to one ratio of pirated game to lost sale, but I'm not going to say it isn't not a lost sale either.
I just don't like stealing. I'd rather rent or go without a game than pirate it (now there's a difference between an Earthbound Rom and paying upward of $1,000 for a SNES cartridge and more most likely for a system, but at that point it's been out of production so it's not even a lost sale for Nintendo or anything and ripping the Witcher 2 off of Pirate Bay).
There is an option in each game properties, which by default is ticked, called "keep my game up to date" or something. Unticking that should kill the auto update... of course there are some games which wont let you play without the latest version, but I didn't think shogun2 was one of them?
Starcraft 2 is not online only, it has a great single player campaign.
Which you have to be connected to the internet to do little things like saving the game. A guest account means you've got to shotgun the whole thing.
I highly doubt x-com EU will require internet connection to play.
theres no "battle.net", no RMAH, not super trendy "origin" bulls***, so it would make NO sense at all to have a consistent connection to the net a requirement.
and speaking of the whitcher2, read this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielny...rtner=yahootix
Steam I can handle but always-online? Hell no! Not even for this game.
"always on" would be a no go for me. I did not buy Diablo 3 for that reason. I dont want to be dependent on a server and no one knows how long the servers will be running. And I want to be able to play on a train.
LOL. Nice made-up statistic.
The only way to prove you don't want a game is not to buy or steal it. The minute you choose to obtain it, the burden of proof rest on you to prove you "really didn't want it". Otherwise, the logical conclusion is that you wanted it and obtained it starting with the cheapest method available to you (ie, theft). Sure, it isn't 100% lost sales, but it makes a lot more sense to work from that position and have to whittle the percentage down than starting at zero and working up.
As for the article linked to by ste-V, I'm always suspicious of the huge bias present when authors intentionally mislead. Although the DRM-free version wasn't the first to be passed around, they fail to mention just how many of the illegal copies were from gog. The casual reader will assume that all the illegal copies were the DRM ones, when it reality it was only the first copy that was the DRM one. Also, CD Projekt needs to do their homework. Not all protection is cracked "within hours". BioShock, which made huge headlines with it's DRM, was partially fueled by the rage of all the kiddies who couldn't download it for at least 11 days post launch because it's DRM was frustrating crackers. I have no doubt that a chunk of people who wanted it and would have downloaded it for free had that been an option, gave in to their desire to be one of the crowd playing and enjoying it and ponied up the cash. A lot of games make the bulk of their sales in the first day, week, or month. If no illegal copies are circulating during that time, it's a huge boost to sales, IMHO.
I refuse to buy Diablo 3 due to the always online bit (along with dumbed down gameplay and blizzard having lost a lot of respect with me due to lots of their decisions, practices, greed, and lame releases lately).
If this game was full time online only I wouldn't buy it either since that is an unacceptable way to do single player gaming (the only way I'd ever play D3, hence why I won't buy it - server lag, disconnects, inability to login/connect for ANY reason - all completely unacceptable).
What I would expect is a Steam requirement like Civ 5, which is also lame but at least it doesn't kill your gameplay.
As someone who buys the games they play, I get really tired of being treated like a criminal.
Yeah, larger issues aside, I don't really see 2K using the always-online system. It would be entirely out of character for them. If anything, they've backed off on their DRM after BioShock. I doubt this question would have even come up had Diablo 3 not been in the headlines.
There is an option in each game properties, which by default is ticked, called "keep my game up to date" or something. Unticking that should kill the auto update... of course there are some games which wont let you play without the latest version, but I didn't think shogun2 was one of them?
Oh I already know about that setting. However, there is a bit of a trick to it. You cannot mess with those settings in offline mode. If I go into online mode to change the settings however... The game starts patching before I can change the setting, and thus I can't play my game because it downloaded a few bits of new data, and won't let me play until its finished.
That is why my shogun game is stuck. I havn't been able to drag my desktop into town, because none of my friends or family have gone on any trips lately. (kinda rude to drag my desktop and download gigs of data while they are still there. :P) As such, it is stuck in "patching" mode even while offline.
If xcom can only be installed through steam, I am screwed depending on when I buy it. If there is a day one patch, or something when I install it... (as installing, even from disc, you have to be online. >.>) I won't be able to play.
If xcom just needs me to be online once to authenticate.... Well I can handle that, but I would still be unhappy as that isolates some of my friends who have no internet outside of their mobile phones.
wth i didn t know about that ,was just planing to buy shogun ,i m a fan of total war series
If you have a decent internet connection that isn't capped, I would go ahead and get Shogun 2. Its a great game, especially with mods if you have a computer that can handle it.
Its just that the patches are rather large in size, and as such I can't play at my home computer.
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You are a suspect. But no more than any else. Thank you, and please go about your day in an orderly manner Citizen.i have a very good conection
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