I don't like movies. I like some movies, but movies in general I don't like, there a dead form of art, that's why I play games.
I don't like movies. I like some movies, but movies in general I don't like, there a dead form of art, that's why I play games.
You don't like movies?! But you will watch this if it happens...Originally Posted by NightIsTheNewDay
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The Universal deal with Hasbro that was monopolizing their development time and $ crashed. Article link above. Noteworthy snips:
*Uni paid out a multi-million penalty for not making the movies
*the BATTLESHIP budget is listed at $250+ milllion, which means it essentially has to do TRANSFORMERS level business to recoup
The last paragraph is really funny:Maybe we can get BIOSHOCK made if we cast Steve Carrell as Ryan and have Judd Apatow write the script.Yet it’s worth noting that the biggest successes Universal has had of late — the Bourne movies, Despicable Me, Bridesmaids — all came not from toys or games, but from books and original-thinking minds.
Still on hold: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54280
Thanks for the contributions everyone!
@Inhale/exhale, I read the article and I have to disagree.... I think Jim Carey would make a much better Ryan. But I'll keep Judd Apatow. =P
@Berringer, thanks a lot for finding that! I've updated the front page with it and made some minor edits to a bunch of other things! Any talk about it, is good talk. Even if its just for the forum... haha.
to people who are sure about it
is there coming a movie of this great game series or not
i saw some fan made trilers and stuff like that and i also saw a trailer thats been apropriate for audience
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRa-78twi3s
thats the link
pls leave a comment
Nothing official in the works has been announced. That trailer is fan made.
doom was made into a movie... did not look like a great precedent
plus, how would a bioshock movie keep the rating R or below? too much of bioshock would be cut to maintain an R or PG-13 rating
I really think a bioshock movie should use the name (Ryan's rapture) it should be a prequel to bioshock 1 and show the story of Andrew Ryan from his days in Russia to the fall of rapture, it would end by showing a plane crash, just as jacks face pops up from the water they should end it, thats the only way for a bioshock movie to work, they could add thats to the story without contradicting the game, perhaps showing the characters taping the famous audio logs from the game, like the one where he recognized his mistakes yet still was overly consumed by his pride and ideology, it started something like this "could I have made mistakes, one does not build cities if one is guided by doubt" can't remember the rest, you have to admit its a good idea!
Sometimes you got to spend money to make money...
@Gatskater, the idea of prequel has been toosed around a lot and the polls seem to say 50/50. And that's just around these forums. But now that I think about it (after reading your post), I think it might be better in the long run if we want a good budget, "R" movie.
Why? Here's a few reasons....
1) It doesn't directly relate itself to the game: Most of it would be original ideas, (as in dialogue and specific situations depending on whether they relate it to the book or not. Which in all likelihood, they wouldn't have to.) The point, is that an audience member who's never even heard of bioshock can be dragged into the depth of these characters and their backstories because the movie would be.... about their backstories! Hopefully it wouldn't continually bounce from character to character, but it at least let's the audience think it's something new and not just a game-to-movie idea.
2) The budget could be much cheaper: Provided the movie still has an R-rating so that it properly set's itself up for the "hopeful" sequel, this movie could do well with a $60 mill *approx* budget. A few special effects scenes that would cover up $30 mill of the budget and the rest on set's, props, locations, and advertisement could do well.
3) It would make us forget about Atlas Shrugged.....
(sigh) The more I write, the more I see how difficult it would be to produce the movie the fans want. Money, rating, advertising, originality, actors, and so forth, would have to be just right for us to be happy.
Always hoping the best though.... always hoping the best.
Looks like Juan Carlos Fresnadillo is out as well. I'm pretty sure at this point the movie won't get made, at least not anytime soon with anyone even remotely tied to this production. The best hope now for a BioShock movie would be waiting several years until the first truly successful video game-to-film adaption hits and Universal decides to dust off the rights to BioShock and put it back into the pipeline. Until then, though, I don't see much chance of this happening, and I'm still of the opinion that that is a good thing.
i was hoping that maybe someone had picked up the production(movie was in production but didnt have enough money)
i think that maybe 2k games can sponsor the movie
i mean it would be a great movie and plubicity
I don't think this is going to be happening any time soon.
Gore Verbinski had signed on originally in what, 2009 to direct and then dropped out because of budget concerns and Rango, he decided to stay on as a producer.
Then Juan Carlos Fresnadillo signed on but then dropped out over budger concerns (again!) and because he wanted to work on some other films.
I can understand why studios would want to keep this film toned down to get a PG-13 classification ($$$$$), but anyone who's played this (1) should be over 17 ANYWAYS! and (2) should immediately understand that there's no way to get around that R-rating based on a source material.
<a>http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/juan-carlos-fresnadillo-no-longer-directing-bioshock
Oh, and this has been my favorite fanmade trailer for a while now
</a>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSuR1...eature=related
I'll bet you anything Uwe Boll would love to get his hands on a Bioshock screenplay and take a dump all over the silver screen just like the rest of his films.
This is definitely saddeningI cant believe they continue to make high budget romantic comedies that bomb and refuse to create a Bioshock Masterpiece that would make bank.
I think Universal might still have distribution rights...but without knowing anything of the original option it's just a guess.
The thing is - 2K wouldn't be able to sponsor the movie by themselves, at least not without considerable risk. Now, mind you, this is what Marvel did and it turned out fantastically - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison, since Marvel had a 60 year history already built in.
Even if 2K funded the development, they'd need a distributor on board, and one that they were comfortable with the level of marketing for the project. But then you're basically talking about 2K putting 60-150 million dollars toward a film and hoping the distributor puts at LEAST 30 million in advertising, if not closer to 50 million (plus all addition costs and prints).
Truth is, for a hard R-rated film this would be very difficult. Comedies get by easily because they're enjoyed by most, a horror/thriller world like Bioshock would not.
I'll be honest - I work in the film industry as a writer and small time producer and it would be an absolute dream to make a project like this happen. However, the realities of it making it extremely tough. You're not trying to sell this to the base, you have to sell it to the people that have no idea about it and will never sit down to play the game...which includes studio heads. I believe with the right director you could make it happen - someone who could realize that the tone from the games is simply the backdrop and world, not the story -- while it's assumed this should be a Hard R-rating I don't believe it 'needs' to be so much so that you can't make a case for something lower. Implied violence lets you get away with a ton and it's often more effective for an audience. (ie: If a big daddy raises a drilling hand, and lunges it into a mans body, a closeup on the face of the man and the sound of the drill is all you need to show to get across the action).
As far as publicity - 2K has no reason to do this for their games. Bioshock 1 and 2 sell for next to nothing now - whatever new fans you earn won't pay much to immerse themselves in the world, even by the time Infinite is out it won't matter. In fact, to sell the film you have to look at it the other way- you have to be able to go to the studios and say "Look, this franchise has reached 11.5 million people (more with Infinite), that's a substantial built in audience for the project, so long as this story is universal in theme and message then we can cater to not just them, but everyone else as well."
For these films to be successful you need to please the base and then everyone else -- but you need both.
Or you make an ultra-low budget version for under 30 million and hope the base is enough to break even (no one would do this).
Of the many video game world Bioshock could probably be successful, but it will take a lot of the right people on board, and being fans of the games isn't enough.
Not to be a jerk and post my own thread, but most of the info (and more) on the Bioshock movie is just a click away if your interested.
Side Note: Everyone should take a listen to what Systemaddict said right above me. ^^^ His words are pretty much the sum for the general concept of this movie. A movie needs to make double its production cost just to break even. (Advertising, media, theaters get half the money, etc.) So with a $150 mill, R- rated movie to make a profit? Just seems.... unlikely.
Last edited by Ryans Rapture; 05-18-2012 at 08:01 PM.
Very detailed thread RR --
One thing I'm wondering -- why do people assume it'll retell Bioshock's story? I'm not sure that story will fly for a general audience, nor would it please the base considering it had a good/bad outcome. While I don't think the novel had a cohesive enough story either, it's more reasonable to think that anyone taking on the project would try something like that (creating their own path through Rapture) than going with Jack. If it were me, I'd probably go further back and tell a story somewhere there. I'd button the end with the plane crashing to link it up.
EDIT: Clear not everyone thinks it will...I read more of the thread.
Last edited by Systemaddict; 05-18-2012 at 11:55 AM. Reason: read more of thread
What's your guarantee it would make bank? Lay it out. Cause if you can...you have yourself a career as a producer or development executive.This is definitely saddening
This is a risk-averse business in every regard. It's not enough to put forward a project that they can say yes to, it must be a project that no one in the room wants to risk saying no. Bioshock doesn't have that going for it.
Also - while I think he's extremely talented - I think Juan Carlos Fresnadillo had a hard climb to get the movie made, I just don't think he has the cache with the studios yet to do it.
Hey guys, so we don't have two threads with the same topic running simultaneously I'm going to merge the two BioShock movie threads together. There will probably be a bit of redundant information, but it'll keep the conversation from being segregated.
For anyone still holding a candle:
Universal's BATTLESHIP had a sad opening weekend at the north American box office office this weekend, earning approximately $25 million. Hard to see it as anything other than a failure considering the similarly themed BATTLE: LOS ANGELES opened $35 million last spring, and it will likely not even match the final gross of last summers disappointing COWBOYS vs. ALIENS. With a budget/marketing spend of ~$300+ million, even with the solid foreign Box Office of 200 million, Universal is likely going to lose anywhere from 100-150 million on this film, depending on the post theatrical earnings.
OK, so why does this matter? The development/production time and money that went into both BATTLESHIP and the equally expensive forthcoming 47 RONIN, was one of the major factors that prevented more $$ being spent to take on a project like BIOSHOCK. The other factor being the much discussed R rating issue.
Regarding the R rating: _everyone_ in the film industry is paying very close attention to the release of PROMETHEUS in a few weeks. There are quite a few who feel Fox is a taking an unnecessary risk by letting it go out with an R instead of cutting it to a PG13. Time will tell. From a consumer standpoint, if you ever want to see, not just a BIOSHOCK film, but any future film with a higher budget and an R rating, it would be a good idea for you and any friends and family you can drag along with you to go see PROMETHEUS on its opening weekend. The box office gross on this film is going to be pointed to by every development executive who is presented with a high $$/R-Rated film project in the future as a reason to make/not make a movie.
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