GOTW Arabs 08.04.1012

[Kadera]

This week we are the Arabs.

Others civs are:
-Japanese (NEE)
-Americans (N)
-Spanish (far NW)
-Germans (very far W - 2nd continent)
Artifacts:
-AoC (3N from Berlin)
-KT (1S 11E from Washington)
-Atlantis (3N 3W from Madrid).

No walk in but it's not hard to take Washington or Kyoto. Production is bad (lack of forest, too much of plains, production city needs Workshop - 1 turn wasted). German walk out is early so good dom scores should be possible (~2000 BC). But i want BC non-dom for my collection (14th civ) - maybe it's possible (but Ind + Corp + CoL + Lit from huts are needed, without techs from huts 100-200 AD is easy).

[johnfeddersen]

I'm not taking washington untill 2700BC! (maybe I can shave a turn or 2 with Ws...)

We're supposed to take berlin 7 turns later on an island...?

Only You Kadea!

[Kadera]

I'm not taking washington untill 2700BC!

What's the problem to kill one archer? I found 3 ways to take Washington (and 1 way for Kyoto). I posted 2000 BC - 1st run (for Kyoto and Berlin), i don't know why but i won 11.6 vs 6 (vs Germans), wounded LA + fund + galleon fleet, why galleons was wounded? Earlier Kyoto and Madrid before AA. I also tried non-dom: 1100 BC Ind+Corp from huts and ... no galleon to rush (1 turn wasted - game over, quit). 100 BC is possible but probably GB is needed.

[johnfeddersen]

I have never seen wounded galleons... that's strange!

Washington with just 2W units... no army?

Me - Wash 2900 Spain 2100BC at the gates of B and K at 1600BC but lost to AI underdog victories... back to the drawing board...

[Liam_Sutty]

I took Washington by wating first turn then name tile and get hut (otherwise I get BW). Settle 2 south of them after getting 2nd hut and buy IW sell Religion. Cover both their trees and rush legion whilst warrior gets hut for caravan. Name tile south of mountain rush legion 2 send warrior back to same tile as legions. Rush legion three, give them caravan attack with legion army win 9-8 then wlk in with warrior. Can't remember date I think it's 3,300 or 3,100.

Trying another way with warriors and earlier dates they had 2 archers there so I wonder if the AI does suffer from anarchy when you sell religion?

[Kadera]

Trying another way with warriors and earlier dates they had 2 archers

Don't wait 1st turn (you will have WA at 3300 BC). I got CoL from that 1st hut (at 2200 BC). 2nd place to settle is next to barbs (2E).

Today i did on Deity:
-0 AD cult 21/20 cultural milestones, Stonehenge rushed 1 turn too late
-100 BC Cultural V. (X360, o777o) - StoneH as fast as possible so last GP 1 turn earlier, GB far too late - useless (700 gold left, even without GB 100 BC is easy for me), CoL+Lit+Ind+Corp from huts, Democracy at 1200 BC.

[johnfeddersen]

Finally 1300BC PS3. "PresentMomentOne"

Took washington with WA at 3000bc, purposely late, so I could collect enough gold to get 100g settlers at 3000BC...

LA Mar/Bltz to Madrid 2500Bc...

Went to Kyoto w/set, build road took at1900BC,

Berlin with CA, LA, vet Galleon 1400BC.

No walk-outs...

Liam or Kadera what is the XBox score Dom Diety?

[Kadera]

Dom: 1st o777o 2000 BC, 2nd someone 600 AD
Non-dom: 1st o777o 100 BC cult, 2nd r8n3 500 AD tech, 3rd Ollie 500 AD cult

[Liam_Sutty]

I made 30 cities but I need to leave those friendlies for techs I think rather than gold for settlers. I quit at 500ad turn before spaceship got there because I didn't think my score was anywhere near good enough!

[johnfeddersen]

Cash tied me at 1300BC

Loz is at 800BC PS3

Kadera, you must be attacking Berlin from a galleon/fleet? But losing all bonuses, it has to be timed with the German walkout...?

[Baconinyourface]

Is anyone getting + 50% Gold from Caravans? Cause I'm not.

[johnfeddersen]

Is anyone getting + 50% Gold from Caravans? Cause I'm not.

Bacon! Hey welcome back... Where have you been?

I definately see it with Spain and the extra gold in the name tiles...

But I have also asked this question before and did not get an answer...Anyone?

[Kadera]

This "bonus" is glitched.

Kadera, you must be attacking Berlin from a galleon/fleet?...?

Why? Walk out 2100 BC, only 3 turns for galleon (6 moves + drop).

Weekly spoiler:
go to hut 8N from start for 25g (via 10g)
3600 BC W NW
3500 BC settle, warrior1 NW (war), Tripoli 4h (/prod.)
3400 BC W1 SW, caravan SW SW S (10g), W2 NW
3300 BC W2 def, W1 NE, caravan N NE E, W3 NW, WA vs archer 6 vs 7
3200 BC caravan to Wash., buy BW sell Relig., take Washington + IW + 15g
2600 BC Madrid + Nav
2200 BC Kyoto, CoL & Lit from huts
(for Dom 2100 BC Berlin walk out)
1300 BC Ind + Corp from huts
1200 BC Democracy, ~40 cities (later 44), AW, rush StoneHenge

[johnfeddersen]

Kadera,

Nice strat again... Good luck with Forza!