By "study" do you mean "playing skyrim"?Originally Posted by Digitalpackrat
By "study" do you mean "playing skyrim"?
well liam was unable to stop my run. 2-0 me
1st game Me arabs him spain
3rd turn in I find kt on the mainland with my settlers (yay me). I settle onto of kt and send warrior west and kt east. turned out nothing was east but 1 barb but it gave me 50g and named 2 tiles. eventually found aztec with kt and russia with wa and took them out around 2000bc. nearly got the galley drop on liams cap but lost my turn with vet wa when i declared war on his cap and he rushed an archer in it. I ended up taking his city to the west of moscow winning a 9-12 for a gg and iron working but he galleon dropped moscow with a single archer then won the 6-4 when i tried to take it back the same turn with a fundy aa right outside the city. ended up finding a barb to the east of moscow for a horse which showed me another of liams open cities and next turn i got a walk in and he conceded. GG
next game
I find russia quickly and take them out with a wa but it turned out he settled close to them and ended up taking it from me and india. I get 100g quickly and have 3 galleons out seaching. I find 7CoG and SoC. I expand out to 8 island cities 2 with libraries and I wait for 1st GP to grab SoC. he threatens greek ai for demo and switches over. he gets irrigation with at least 6 cities. I get gb, ga, and ge. I rush EITC. i flip a city close to his cap and he starts attacking with a cat army. he ends up loosing the cap army 15-6 and concedes. i do not believe he would have taken that city even if he didn't loose that battle i had 2 more vet archers in galleon next to city goin in that turn and a galleon fleet for support 2 turns out. GGs
Me and Prey did our two Zulu vs English...
First game My English vs his Zulu
Pretty simple game for me as I was far from the Zulu, got 100g and he was trapped on a peninsula. What more could I ask for? After his WA was defeated at Moscow Prey conceded.
Second game My Zulu vs his English
Pretty excellent start for my Zulu with a friendly, KT, Moscow and then Kyoto. I decided to also pick 7cog and AW for good measure while Prey struggled to get his 100g and couldn't attack me. His second city got flipped by the Egyptians and I took the city from the Egyptians. Prey then flipped one of my cities but I flipped it back eventually for the win due to my AOC.
YESSS...this is why DP and I decided on this theme.....hoping to see some nice upsets....if you thin about it english is one of the best civs against zulu....they can be mini china....gets those longbow archers and settle a few dye tiles and you are straight....
I think it is more that the Zulu are prone to terrible starts.
Ill hear none of that in the civ league unless its the victor pointing it out!!
how was the vacay? if hell doesn't break loose at work i'll be off friday. we can set an appointment then. if that doesn't work i'll be off sun-wed.
i am hard to communicate with these days as i can't respond to posts like i used to. the response box is greyed out instead of white, and i can't type in it. i can backdoor it in some threads by going advanced. nothing works in this thread though. very bizarre.
try a different browser, there is IE, chrome and firefox. all of them are good. so if one won't let you post properly use a different one. it is most likely a messed up cache file and deleting your cache will probably fix it.how was the vacay? if hell doesn't break loose at work i'll be off friday. we can set an appointment then. if that doesn't work i'll be off sun-wed.
i am hard to communicate with these days as i can't respond to posts like i used to. the response box is greyed out instead of white, and i can't type in it. i can backdoor it in some threads by going advanced. nothing works in this thread though. very bizarre.
finally week 9 is done and we can get a great recap for the week and Grizz and I can get our week 10 done tomorrow then that week will be caught up as well
I would like to sign up.
Hey Dan, when can you play? If you can't reply here, please send me a message on xbl.
Yeah not much I could do in those games DP especially the first one and once you'd expanded to decent islands I was just putting cities out there for the sake of it. Lost a vet cat army to greece before I was still able to threaten them for Demo but it was to no avail. GG's. Thankfully I got to take out my frustration on Itz in the Asia cup!! ;-)
Yea I had the same problem...still do if I use explorer as my browser but since im hosting the civ league I had to be able to edit so I told packrat and after I switched to googlechrome it works just fine...how was the vacay? if hell doesn't break loose at work i'll be off friday. we can set an appointment then. if that doesn't work i'll be off sun-wed.
i am hard to communicate with these days as i can't respond to posts like i used to. the response box is greyed out instead of white, and i can't type in it. i can backdoor it in some threads by going advanced. nothing works in this thread though. very bizarre.
I can play either Friday night or Sunday night. Sunday would probably work better but I can do Friday if you would rather. Packrat, when can you play? I'm looking for a 2-0 sweep to put me in contention for best overall record
google chrome ftw!! i can post again!!! if we did it friday how early could you start duke?
Probably around 7:30 CST. I think that's 5:30 your time.
i could definitely play then, but dinner may present itself before we can finish 2. i'm off sun-wed. so if friday doesn't work there is no doubt we will play soon.
swept by packrat
Rookie mistake!!
I think I am finally caught up and can play duke now for this weeks matches
Had some crazy good map position in the first game against grizz.
Me russia him france
area map shows me 2 friendlies and a barb. I grab first friendly for 25g. 2nd one I get hbr and then i find a 3rd friendly for 25g by 3600 and settle on ox giving me 10 free production allowing me to rush a horse for 20g and take down a 1pop barb for bw and shows me china 2 turns away with hills next to it. I take china at 3400 and grizz is still walking but he's using the timer and making me nervous. sure enough next turn he settles next to me and walks in on my cap with a warrior. but I had china cap and 2 horses out. one horse names a tile and takes down a barb for caravan and gives me enough gold to rush ha and retake my cap and his. very little he could do that game.
2nd game was more bad luck for him than good luck for me.
he walks 10 turns settles next to aztec and looses 2 4.5-2.5 battles.
duke let me know when you get done with dan so we can get our games in. I have friday off but would prefer not to sit around the house playing civ. if you are available then let me know so we can schedule our games
Got my 2nd game vs. Liam in. My French beat his Russians.
He settles first turn so I suspect he either saw a ton of barbs nearby or an artifact. In 3300BC I find out that he saw 7cities :-( I walked for a bunch of turns, picked up 60g on the way and settled on a hill with 3 trees and 2 water next to a barb and near Washington. Got a walk-in on them and took the barb for some gold. The Zulu are to the east, but Liam is also there, to the north east. Our warriors meet, he kills one with a single horse, I kill his horse with a single horse and get a HA to the Zulu, killing Liam's militia. So he knows where my HA is. Next turn he declares war on the Zulu and I am debating if I should move my HA one tile away, but hesitate and he sneaks his HA over and kills mine :-( I got my 100g in the meantime and send my settler far south-west to some barbs. Liam attacks Zulus, I threaten them for 25g. And then for some reason he skips on the Zulu and moves further south. Now I am stuck with a new, vet HA and 7 turns of peace remaining. He declares war on the Greeks and I thought to myself, well, he is not going to take down the hoplites. Turns out he did after a few turns and took a nice 4 or 5 pop Athens and demo. I manage to take down the Zulu after the peace ended since they only had single archers. Now I got 3 inf HAs, but no way I am going to attack his hoplite armies. And he still has his GG march HA floating around Athens. So we both go into expansions. Liam to some islands, without Republic. Me with Republic on the mainland. He GA flips Zimbabwe, but I have my 2 inf HAs nearby and take it back. I got a GS as 1st GP and found SoC later for another GS and a GA. I flip one of his island cities - nice. Liam switches to demo and I keep expanding. He stalls around 13 or 15 techs while I tech to invention for another GA and flip another of his island cities. The turn before I get cruisers, he lands CA, HA, AA, hoplite by some of my cities but does not attack (turns out he thought I had the GW from AW, but I got HGB which bumped Paris from 2 to 3 pop ;-) ) He takes one city for steam, I use both GS for Ind and Corp and send a cruiser fleet with cat army, 2 inf HAs and some archers and sink his galleon fleet and kill the CA and HA. And Liam concedes. I was making 250g+ gold a turn from Ind and Corp alone.
Yeah I just struggled to get to you because of that damn mountain knowing full well a second HA was on its way. Didnt want risk mine keep getting injured at zulu for you to kill it so went for some barbs. I thought they would of had an AA up by the time you were at war again though. Silly mistake assuming you had GW and teching engineering cost me ten turns... I was sure it wasn;t available to build when I looked and yes I did have masonry.
You had that HA super fast (faster than mine even with 7cog because that was at 3200 and moscow only had one sea tile. Those flips hurt me badly and I think you had about 7 GP to my 2 in the end and I got useless GH and GA. Was a fun game though thanks.
Was a good game. I thought I lost it after 7 cities and you killing my first HA. I really only had 4 GPs, not 7 :-) 1 from culture, 2 from SoC and a fourth from Invention. 2 GS and 2 GA. Maybe another one from 500g, but that was already after I gs'ed ind and corp.
Seems like you irritated, lol!
Mawpawk we need to get our game in asap so I can stay on time for these games for a change! Holler me big lad ;-)
@Dan - I'll be ready to play around 730 cst at the latest. Probably a bit earlier but I don't want to make promises I can't keep.
No I just make a habit of posting before my opponent these days if I lose instead of after....I get tired of hearing rebuttles...."aww well yea you won because I lost a 4.5-2.5 here and you got 7CoG there...dont forget my horrible starting position lalala crap crap crap"..everybody knows this stuff happens.....we all play this game....anyways....id rather just see a victors tale of how he won than a losers recital of why he lost....hence me simply saying he swept me and letting him fill in the details....I did the same thing when Itz beat me in the 8-man finals....
Okay fellas I would like to apologize. I realize I havent done the weekly update for week 9 and 10...the reason for that was obvious....1 game left to play in 10 and 9 just finished 2 days ago. Im updating everything now and I just noticed I hadnt given the weekly update for week 8 either....sorry....I dropped the ball there.....Ill have it all updated by the end of the night....thans for everyones continued participation
get your arse in gear Grizz, its not like you have 2 jobs and go to school full time. and it was probably partly fault with my internet connection slowing things up anyways and it turns out it really isn't fixed yet either but it far more stable than it used to be. I will have to get comcast out again. originally i would restart every 2 hours or quicker then after tech it went to every 6 hours now its every 24 hours which is much better but still shouldn't do it.
I'm online now.... either Dan or Packrat
Dan and I split. I don't think either of us really had a chance to win either game. 1st game I had archers in his trees in about 12 turns and he was on a lake. 2nd game I got 1 hut in 15=20 turns and no AI's and he drops off 2 HA's.
that 2nd game, my russian one, was a powerful start. hbr 2nd turn, and after waiting 5 turns for my 1st horse i had 100 g about 5 turns later. lost a vet horse when india popped up on me when i was next to duke's horse, but i took delhi the same turn with a non vet HA. all 3 of my cities had cattle. i'm glad i didn't have to wait for code of laws though. duke is dangerous. i might have had a chance in the 1st if i had started west. egypt with hgb was about 5 turns that way.
Had quite the game with Packrat. My Zulu vs his English. I get a galley from my first hut and that gives me a late drop off in Moscow. I find Packrat's warrior a turn or two later. We end up being very very far apart and he has longbows up before I get to his cap (I saw with my militia). So I go attack India and take it. I then try to get the French but Packrat had sold them BW early so that was a no go. Here is the kicker.... I only got 2 other barb the entire game. One which I semi stole from Packrat and a really late barb gave me pottery. It was a caravan map and Packrat had his 100 gold super early (around 3200-3000ish?). He settles on a dye isle and rushes the library.
5-10 turns later I have 3 caps, 100g city, and a settler which I rushed out of India. I decide to go for irrigation since I already have pottery and want the wall to prevent a GA flip/longbow rush. I bank hammers and when I get to COL finally I have a bunch of settlers to pop out. Zulu growth bonus kills me a bit but it is what it is. Packrat gets most of the mid bonuses but I get the free market in a fish city which is about 5 pop at the time which is nice. My first GP is a scientist and I debate on Nav but I wait. The problem is that Packrat is so far away I don't have a way to attack him or press him. He is expanding all to islands (he later said he got 9 dye islands). I decide to just race to the higher techs due to my GS. So I tech Demo and banking. We both had 13 cities at this point. He had dye, mine were bigger b/c I had a lot of fish early.
I GS industrialization in 250 ad I think and the corp a few turns later. Problem is he is English and had Steam and I have no way to kill him. He gets 7 cities really late and Atlantis to put him right at 23 techs. Crap. Here is my plan. I have 2000 gold. I build/rush Sam's castle and tech to steam. This gives me 50/50 battles with his cruisers and I can make more of them due to my 300-400 gold per turn. Well, he starts attacking before I can gets to cruisers (I make a couple dumb mistakes along the tech path which didnt help). He takes a couple cities and I get my fleet out. This 50/50 battle likely will decide the game because If he wins he takes a bunch more cities. If I win I can take a few of my cities back and have 5 more fleets before he can attack again. Then it is just a matter of me taking the final 2 caps before he gets a battleship fleet out which shouldnt be hard as thats about 8-10 turns of tech and a whole bunch of hammers (hard with all island cities). Well... Packrat wins the 50/50. GG!
Really fun game. We both played meh but I can feel confident saying he beat me with skill, not luck. I think I made a lot more mistakes that him... although he could have ran through me with a cat army and a couple longbows at pretty much any point in the midgame. Looking back I probably could have used the GS on Nav and went for a cat press while I continued to expand. Maybe I could have nabbed a city or two. Either way, One of the first games in quite a long time where I feel like I learned something. Also this is a classic example of Oxford NOT ruining a great game.
well got one game in with duke and we finally had a game that wasn't decided in the first 20 turns YAY
he host
duke zulu Me english
thankfully we started on opposite sides of the poles. I settled with 2 water 2 trees and hills next to a barb. he gets a boat from first village and grabs AoC at 3700. I got 30g from first barb and rushed out 2 more warriors. I jokingly say to duke man its 3400 and you havn't taken a civ out yet, he's silent then walks in on russia and just laughs. my 2nd warrior grabs a friendly for a caravan and it finds france and I threaten it for 25g, next turn give it a caravan and sell it bw for my 100g at 3000bc. I managed to get my 100g quickly, and rush out 2 boats since it tells me there are 3 more artifacts out there. he meanwhile takes out india and gets his 100g that turn about 2000bc and starts attacking france. thankfully he got slowed down attacking them but won like 4 battles against their archers before finally getting injured but not before get a gg. he was unsuccessfully in taking france but pumps out multiple little cities and grabs irrigation bonus with at least 5 cities I was aware of. I started expanding to the islands. it turned out my galleys were worthless in finding artifacts but did scout out a bunch of prime dye spots, I b line for republic and begin mass expanding. duke meets me in republic about 8 turns later and we both are expanding. my first gp was a ge which i used for 100g towards expansion. i got construction, math, nav and invention first. we both expanded to about 13 cities and he switch to demo about 2 turns before me when I find 7 CoG for an extra 300g which i rush out 3 more cities and switch to demo. he gs indust at 300ad and corp at 500ad and he's now at 21 tech to my 19. he is now making over 400g a turn. I research steam and must have backfilled a tech cause I found atlantis at 500 and it put me at 23 techs, i rush out a cruiser fleet and fill it with a bunch of garbage (2 pikemen, an archer, my free knight and free cat) and set sail for his cities. I hit modern at 600ad and start attacking him taking his 8pop market city and india on the same turn and use my ga to flip his island city. next turn I take the other 2 cities next to india cap and he rushes sams castle and attacks me with a cruiser fleet and I win the even battle 31.5 to 31.5. after that I manage to walk though the rest of his cities fairly easily. he tried to make one more cruiser fleet but my fleet intercepted his crusier just before he was able to make it an army and thats all she wrote. I had 2 more cruiser fleets coming one was heading to france to take them out and the other was on its way to back up the first incase he managed to perform a last ditch effort and take out my fleet but 3 turns later I have all 5 caps at about 750ad. GG
I win. it was too late to start another one so we will try to get in the next one on sunday.
Week 8 6-3
Theme: Battle of Thermopyolae: 480BC: India vs Greece
Matches
Non-Conference
duke v maw 1-1
>Gm1 Fun fun...Dukes Indians find 7CoG late to claw back in but sells his 100g settler...not ready to quit he drops off mad legions so mawpawk pops GW allowing him time to seal the victory
>Gm2 Well duke finds two friendlys and takes spain for nav....maws Indians are on a huge island...nuff' said
Blades v prey 1-1
>Gm1 Preys Indian Knight storms Blades cap at 3300BC
>Gm2 Prey played the best game he ever played but Blades barely managed to pull it out!!
liam vs ITZ 1-1
>Gm1 Wow, Liams Indians maintained their composure whilst his OP got 7CoG AW and 2 caps(one spain) allowing his "invincible" angry KAs to steal the win GOTW
>Gm2 ITz gets revenge by crushing liam stealing his only barb and his Greek cap
mulit v dan 2-0
>Gm1 Multis Greeks take the zulu early and find AoC to set up the vic
>Gm2 After Multi finds a late 7CoG with the Indians dan calls it
Maniac v DP 0-2
>Gm1 A quick galley drop to Rome sets DPs Greeks up for early expansion
>Gm2 DP storms the Arab cap and uses fundy Indians to crush through pikeman defense
ade v REM 0-2
>Gm1 Blazing fast start for Rems Greeks....a friendly to take out France quick 100g and a HA later and he has a mexican standoff outside Ades city....only after sneaking around and dropping 2 HAs off at ades back door does REM pull it out
>Gm2 Rems Indians start on an island but superior map knowledge leads to him taking two caps and the win
Week 9 6-10
Theme: The Reconquista of Al-Andalus: Spain vs Arabs
Matches
Non-Conference
duke v ITZ 2-0
>Gm1 After taking 2 ai caps Dukes Arabs had too much of an offensive counter force when denied arrived with legions
>Gm2 100g and two ai caps before 3000 BC and Duke Denies itz a chance at the W
Blades v dan 2-0
>Gm1 Blades Spanish finds lots of gold and his settlers quick
>Gm2 After many hard faught battles Dans Spanish finally succumb to Blades many legion assault
liam vs DP 0-2
>Gm1 DP finds T with his settlers for a fundy knight at 3700BC..nuff said
>Gm2 DP finds and takes Russia early but liam bounces back taking it from him and India as well..DP builds 3 galleons though which pay off after 7CoG and SoC lead him to the promised land
mulit v REM 0-2
>Gm1 REM plays big biding his time after multis Spanish found 7CoG AoC and the Russian ai cap..he took multis entire civilization with a vet WA and HA...strategically placed arsenal...nicely done GOTW
>Gm2 After chasing multis Arab settlers REM takes out England for the win
manic v maw 1-1
>Gm1 Maws Arabs cant handle a huge island start leading to his demise and Maniacs victory
>Gm2 Maws Spanish settlers beat maniacs down with a walking stic
ade v prey 1-1
>Gm1 Preys Spanish take the early tech lead for total domination
>Gm2 After stealing two of preys barbs and destroying his attack force AdesSpanish claim victory
Week 10 6-17
Theme: Napoleonic Wars: Patriotic War of 1812: Russia vs France
Matches
Non-Conference
duke v dan1-1
>Gm1 Dukes Russians were camping all of Dans trees with archers by 2800BC
>Gm2 Dans Russians CRUSH duke early with two vet HAs
Blades v DP 0-2
>Gm1 DPs Russian map leads him to 3 friendlys and a quick victory
>Gm2 DPs French eek out the win as the aztecs utterly destroy Blades for him
liam vs REM 1-1
>Gm1 Liams Frenchies manage to block Rems settlers on a peninsula
>Gm2 AWESOME....Rems Frenchies take Dehli and Washington while Liam finds 7CoG and takes Berlin. Rems decision for nav/math gives him the advantage over knights though and many counter attacks later Rem pulls out it out!!
This would have been GOTW but a replay was done due to liams disconnect
>Gm2-2 AWESOME...REM finds 60g walking but no ais while liam again finds 7CoG. Zimbabwe is between them and liam manages to kill one of REMs HAs. REM still manages to take Zimbabwe because Liam bipassed them to take the Greeks for Demo. REM eventaully wins the game with both money tecs and cruisers fleets...GOTW
mulit v maw 2-0
>Gm1 Multis French sniff out a friendly and Washington while Maw settles in the Beasts starting spot giving Multi map advantage
>Gm2 Well multi said it best...I ran into "normal mawpawk"...not super mawpawk....multi gets the win
Maniac v prey 1-1
>Gm1 Preys Russia have a quick start to seal the win
>Gm2 Manaic finds gold early and blocks prey on a peninsula
ade v ITZ 0-2
>Gm1 Itz French go button battle crazy beating ade to two ai caps
>Gm2 300g by 3000 all but seals the win for Itz Russians
Weekly updates to come when I get back from lunch
Week 8 6-3
Theme: Battle of Thermopyolae: 480BC: India vs Greece
Well this was our closest battle yet.....there were three sweeps and instead of one civ winning all the splits it was offset this time ending at 7-5. I think this provides evidence to what multi, maw and I always preach about Greece being underated. Anyways....The Greeks were able to hold Thermopylae but the Indians still edged them out in the end...
Division 1:Liams 7 game streak comes to an end and multi claws back with a sweep while blades maintains second place with average play.
Division 2: Can anybody stop DP....he towers a top the civ league with a record of 15-1. REM follows his lead this week as they both sweep their opponent. Mawpawk remains two games behind prey for the 3rd place spot.
GOTW: Liam vs Itz with the collossal comeback.
Bonehead Move of the Week: Duke for selling his 100g settler....(duke why have you won this award atleast 3 times??)
Mawpawk beat me twice with zulu then english. His zulu beat me to 7cog then gets great wall plus the whole of the map whilst all I got was two pop berlin and trapped in!
Second game I got hardly any gold as zulu and I think he got SOC and had 100g very fast. It got to 1800 and I still hadn't 100g so I threw the towel in.
I want to clarify week 12. No attacking. Not even the ai correct. We have to block them off
I think this weeks games will be a disaster... Technology victory and no attacking to stop a excellent start? I also got to go against packrat? I hate this week's games.
Thats next wee this week is zulu english...i still have to redo all the dates after the bye week..everything is on track now
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