By late June, I'll have spent all my money on my one 4 day vacation I get all year.
I guess I'll have to start choosing which kidney I want to sell, lol.
By late June, I'll have spent all my money on my one 4 day vacation I get all year.
I guess I'll have to start choosing which kidney I want to sell, lol.
You sure? That would mean some 6-day weeks even with no vacation at all.Originally Posted by Black Gate of Mordor
You know what's hilarious? And all game devs do this: North America June 19th and Internationally June 22nd. Canada is not an international entity anymore. That is hilarious.
I know we're all anxious to play the game, but I'd prefer they produced a polished version of the pack and made us wait a little longer rather than rushing the game out and having the forums full of complaints.
Careful, they can yet do both - make us wait longer and rush it out with accompanying bugs/poor implementation of design ideas etc ensuring that the forums full of complaints. :P
I'm hoping for a reasonably bug-free release that shows at least an attempt to improve the currently mediocre feature set and AI in vanilla Civ 5. Strong sales will ensure another expansion and by that stage I'm hoping Civ 5 will be in the state that Civ 4: BTS is currently in. Anything beyond that is a bonus.
Remember the boost Warlords gave for Civ 4? That's roughly the improvement I expect to see from G&K.
Can't wait!
I'm especially eager for the additional Civilizations and the scenarios (the Sci-Fi one especially). Do we also get that Rhye's and Fall thing with it?
I'm not saying that they will produce a bug free game, rather that if they've pushed back the game from the original estimate of May, it's for a reason. I'd prefer if they just came out and said 'sorry guys, we said late Spring but we've pushed it back to June to give you a more polished game' rather than being technical about the definition of Spring.
They never said May, and there's no indication that the game has been pushed back. And debating the semantics of late spring, early summer all you want, the game has always been announced as a second quarter 2012 release, which does include June.
With how much in-class time, versus how much at-home work? The teenaged kids of some friends of mine, sometimes seem like they have no time left for a social life.
Whatever happened to letting children be children ...?
EDIT TO ADD:
Actually, I just did some web-searching, found the official Government site for Australian schools, and ... Mordor's mis-stating things by a fair deal.
For example: Queensland has four terms this year, three of 10 weeks and one of 11 weeks. That's 41 weeks of school. So what I THINK Mordor has done, is simply multiple the weeks of school by SEVEN.
And, Mordor? That's not how it works. Here in the U.S., kids go to school for 5 days a week. So a 180-day school year, actually represents 36 weeks of school. Less than in Queensland, Australia .... but not by that large an amount.
Furthermore, additional research indicates that a typical Australian school day starts classes at 9am, and lets the students out around 3:30pm. But in the U.S. ...? Even twenty-five years ago, when I was in highschool, we didn't have it so good. I had to be in school for attendance at 7:00am sharp, and some days, didn't get out until 4pm. Nowadays, for most kids, MOST days last until 4pm.
So a highschooler in Australia - say, age 15, 10th grade - is in school for about 200 days, and about 6.5 hours a day. That's 1300 hours per year.
Same kid, in the U.S., is in school for 180 days, but for 8 to 9 hours a day. That's 1,440 to 1,620 hours per year.
...
So, um. Who's got the shorter school year, again ...?
Last edited by _Pax_; 04-06-2012 at 01:22 AM.
Wow, we're even shorter than that - same term periods, except the fourth term is only about three and a half weeks long, then we have exam leave. We also (At my school at least) start some days an hour later and others finish 1/2 an hour earlier.
Whoops...
But I'd really love if we only got 6 and a half hours a day. We have about seven and a half most days, sometimes longer (usually 8:20-3:45).
Pouakai, isn't that only year 12 though?
However, this conversation is quite enlightening. I never knew Americans had to get to school so early (I don't normally get up until 7).
edit: By my multiplication, 41 weeks at 7 and a half hours per day (five day week) we have 1742 hours. However, I would estimate it's at least seventy hours shorter, probably more.
Well, so far we have had way to much input on just what Spring and Summer is. Some interesting give and take on the amount of schooling in some countries was fun to read. But very little RESPONCE on just was done to improve the massive list of needed fixes on vanilla CIV 5. Would it not be better to fix the original product before tacking on something else that still has to work within a flawed framework.
Those who post evaluations about this improvement will be very carefully read by me before I pop for the $$ to buy it.
If it is a major fix of CIV 5 and a great ( bug free ) expansion the cost is of no concern to me. Good stuff always cost more but in the long run is worth it. Besides, if I do'nt spend my money my kids will!
"Those who post evaluations about this improvement will be very carefully read by me before I pop for the $$ to buy it."
-- unlike most of the 'reviewers' currently feeding information (badly in a lot of cases - one even claims Polynesia is a new civ...), I'll wait for it to be out, or closer to it, before saying if it'll be an improvement or not.
I think it will most likely be an improvement - good as the game is now, there's a lot of room for it, and the details I've heard sound good. Though MD is right, I feel, that there is also potential for it to not be so great. I expect to buy it in any case, though, I'm just that fannish
No worries. For a few minutes Iw as aghast at how little time Australian youngsters got to be kids at all. Then I checked the details on the web, and ... yeah. Guess they do have a little time for that after all, eh?
Yeah, I think it's a global problem; we expect kids to know more and more and more before college. And even with shorting some subjects (the arts, especially music, here in the States), the amount of time a kid, especially highschoolers, have to put into their schoolwork ... ugh. Eight or more hours in class, then, five or six horus of homework. EVERY DAY, except the weekends ... during which, like as not, there's another 6-8 hours of homework to split between the two days, anyway. O_OBut I'd really love if we only got 6 and a half hours a day. We have about seven and a half most days, sometimes longer (usually 8:20-3:45).
We're trying to cram too much learning into too few days, and too few YEARS.
200 days, not 205. There's 5 or 6 days during those 41 weeks, where you don't have class.edit: By my multiplication, 41 weeks at 7 and a half hours per day (five day week) we have 1742 hours. However, I would estimate it's at least seventy hours shorter, probably more.So, about 1500 hours. About what our highscoolers have to do, here in the States.
I don't think homework's that bad here. At least, not early on. In the latter three years of highschool it's like that.
That sounds far more realistic than 1700. I think we'll find both sides of the Pacific do it relatively the same. Now, whether Europe is different, I have no clue. I think the French have far less hours.200 days, not 205. There's 5 or 6 days during those 41 weeks, where you don't have class.
I'm pretty sure the Japanese barely let their kids sleep between classes. That would certainly explain some of the whacky, sleep-deprivation-induced things we see coming out of there, hahahaha!
I never did all the homework I was supposed to at school, but even if I had, I think it was only an hour or two per night (unless you're struggling), I often did it in ten minutes before class - except once you get on to GCSE (starting age 14) when there's a lot of extended coursework (or there was in my day - I hear they've been reducing the amount of coursework done at home, which naturally reduces the amount of time that can be spent on it), and A-Level (starting age 16) when there's much more to learn, so more studying. I self-taught one A-Level, so I spent lots of time on that at home, but the three I was taught normally had no coursework element - but a lot of studying.
When I was at school, we starting before 9, but with actual lessons usually starting around 9, and finished somewhere in the vicinity of 3:30pm, with around 1 hour and 15-20 minutes of breaks in the day. Around 5 hours of lessons each day. Five days a week. We had three terms, each with one week of half-term holiday, a few weeks off over Easter and Christmas (somewhere between 2 and 4 each, but not as much as 4 each in one year), and 6 or 8 weeks of Summer. I think we finished late July and started in the first half of September. Plus there was another 1 week of days off when schools weren't formally closed, as "INSET days" (INSET being IN SErvice Training, when teachers got extra training - they call it Continuing Professional development, or CPD, now). So at a rough estimate, that's about 17 weeks off each year, leaving 35 weeks in school, which is 175 days. Feels like more, though. If we say 5 hours of lessons a day (not sure if that matches the comparisons others have listed), that's 175 * 5, or about 875 hours of actual lessons. If we include the whole day, that's more like 7 hours a day, or 1225 hours a year.
Not at all. Ubisoft had Heroes 6 sceduled for spring 2011. It was released on October 13th. Now THAT is late spring!Haha, late spring. Very.
June 19th sounds good. That's right about when my summer holidays start.
Short term 4 is the last three years of High school, other two early finish late start are for all years of high school
Depends. Maybe they were referring to the southern hemisphere, because that's right in the middle of spring for us.Not at all. Ubisoft had Heroes 6 sceduled for spring 2011. It was released on October 13th. Now THAT is late spring!
June 19th sounds good. That's right about when my summer holidays start.
actually, June is concidered to be the first summer month in Norway, so Ill take the expansion May 19th then please thank you very much!June 19 is still Spring!
June is the summer.
Your local weather patterns do not change 2K's release schedule. It is 100% predictable that they were using the US definition.
Very wry. Summer starts on June 20th in the United States this year, for 'tis the solstice.
Can I ask a really stupid question....?
Will G&K be available to download directly from Steam like the DLC OR do I need to make a retail purchase online from a vendor/ from a shop in the high street?
Thanks.
I think you'll be able to direct download, like you can download any other game.
Direct download from Steam. The store page isn't up yet, though
Thanks Guys, much obliged. Living in Israel I would have to wait for delivery, G&K would never be in the shops on the release date - doubt they would even know what it is until they received to their stock 3-6 months later...
You can dl the main game and all DLC from Steam so would be weird if G&K wasn't the same.
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