Stronger in H2H: Zulu or China?

[ITZ DENI3D]

You haven't changed my opinion one bit. China is faster, more reliable, and more versitile. They have more hammers and can tech faster. By the time your whale cities have grown to 4, I can make pop 5 cities and also have Navigation. China doesn't need 15 cities. They can do just fine with 7-8. Plus, it is really easy to defend when you can settle a couple pop 4 cities at 8 hammers a turn.

Spain MUST beat China to Steam Power to have a chance, and that doesn't hammer very often. Or what happens if there are a lack of whales? It's not like every map is loaded with them. Have fun sailing 5 turns to find one. Yes, a GOOD Spain game can compete with an OK China game. But a GOOD China game will crush a GOOD Spain game. That is why China is a tier above Spain.

I guess I agree since it seems to have been tested a lot, doesn't mean I won't keep playing Spain V.S. China. FFA would be a lot more fun IMO I'd like to see how you do then, guarantee you won't get industrial by 0 A.D

[MultiPlayaBeast]

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I guess I agree since it seems to have been tested a lot, doesn't mean I won't keep playing Spain V.S. China. FFA would be a lot more fun IMO I'd like to see how you do then, guarantee you won't get industrial by 0 A.D

Duke has too much of a complicated Outlook on FFA. Takes too much time Duke says. I've seen h2h's of mine last 3 1/2 hours multiple times. I got a thread concerning FFA coming too.

[dukeblue1987]

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Duke has too much of a complicated Outlook on FFA. Takes too much time Duke says. I've seen h2h's of mine last 3 1/2 hours multiple times. I got a thread concerning FFA coming too.

I have nothing against people who play FFA. I personally just don't enjoy it. I've never said people shouldn't play it or that there is no value in it. I've never said FFA players are less skilled than H2H. I've tried giving it a chance and have had pretty good success (I won 30 in a row with Greeks). But why would I play when it makes me hate the world in 20 minutes?

[ITZ DENI3D]

But why would I play when it makes me hate the world in 20 minutes?

LMFAO! Thats fair, no reason to play if its not fun. But, you must also accept that FFA is really a different game than H2H and that my proposal on Chinese and Spain in FFA may have some merit. I have had a lot of games against Chinese with Spain in FFA. Maybe 9/10 of them sucked but ohh well, you haven't changed my mind either buddy

[Legatus]

I guess I should start a new poll.....

China is still stronger, as Spain has to make it's mark before China reaches 14 techs.

I would agree that Spain is stronger in FFA than H2H, as it's easier to torture humans with Navigation than the AI (the AI will always build archers, won't expand, etc.)

But the lesser resources and map space hurts China far less than the other civs.

[sdu754]

The big advantage China has is that they don't have any weaknesses

[newsgothic]

The big advantage China has is that they don't have any weaknesses

Hahaha, I like that.