2012 Round Robin Champions Bracket
H2H Round Robin Tourney 2012 Champions Bracket
This Tournament is for Xbox only.
1. This tournament will be conducted in a round robin format. Each player will play two games against each other player in this group for a total of 10 qualifying games. A win is worth 1 point. A loss is worth 0 points. After all qualifying games have been completed, the top two point leaders will advance to the finals. A best of 5 series will determine the tourney champion.
Any round robin tie for the 2nd playoff spot will be broken based upon a H2H match.
In the event of a 3+ way tie for the 2nd qualifying spot, one FFA match will decide who advances. In the event of a 3+ way tie for the top qualifying spot, a FFA game will decide the top seed. Another game (FFA or H2H) with the remaining players (not the first FFA winner) will decide the 2nd seed. These games will be considered “finals” and therefore civ selection is deducted from the advancing player's remaining civs. Example – If India is used in a tiebreaker game, that player may not use India in the 5 match finals series. See number 2 below for more information. Any 2 way tie for the top seed will be decided based on the results in the 2 games played between the tied players. If they split the games the top seed will be determined in a manner agreed upon by the 2 participants.
2. No power or semi-power civs may be used (Americans, Arabs, Aztecs, Chinese, Spanish, Zulu). The following is a list of the ten allowed civilizations: Egyptians, English, Germans, Greeks, Indians, Japanese, Mongols, French, Romans, and Russians. Each civ must be played once in qualifying. Civ selection is reset for the finals series.
3. No Adar.
4. No democracy glitching. All peace requests must be accepted. All Great Wall requests must be accepted ONLY IF the player with the Great Wall has not attacked that turn. If the player with the GW attacks, he must wait until the following turn to send peace. Please play nice guys.
5. No pause glitching.
6. Players alternate hosts.
7. There is no set schedule on who to play. Please organize your games on this thread or through PM or XBL messages. Please try to complete all games in a reasonable time frame.
8. Rules are subject to modification up to when the first match has started.
9. You may not build the Oxford University wonder. Getting it from Angkor Wat is fine.
Forum name - XBL gamer tag
3. GrizzleyTigers4 gt: BladesOfDrizzt
5. Liam Sutty
Last edited by danthechan; 05-03-2012 at 10:37 AM.
Dukeblue England (L) Rome (W)
Grizzlytigers Russia (W) Mongolia (L)
REM018 India (W) Germany (L)
Liam Sutty France (W) Egypt w/cor (W)
PointOneStar Japan (W) Greek (L)
Mawpawk Germany (W) Egypt w/cor (L)
Grizzlytigers Russia (W) Japan (L)
REM018 Greeks (W) Rome (L)
Mawpawk Egypt (CoR) (L) Mongolia (W)
Dukeblue Russia (L) Rome (W)
REM018 India (W) England (L)
Liam Sutty Germany (W) France (W)
PointOneStar Greeks (W)
Mawpawk Rome (L) India (W)
Dukeblue German (L) Egypt w/henge (W)
Grizzlytigers English (L) Russia (W)
Liam Sutty Mongols (L) France (L)
PointOneStar Greeks (W) Japan (L)
Liam Sutty 3-5
Mawpawk Egypt w/cor (L) England (L)
Grizzlytigers Greece (L) France (L)
REM018 Rome (W) Japan (W)
PointOneStar India (W) Russia (L)
Mawpawk Japan (L) England (W)
Grizzlytigers Egypt (L)
REM018 Russia (L) India (W)
Liam Sutty Mongolia (L) France (W)
Liam Sutty 3-5
Last edited by danthechan; 05-12-2012 at 11:10 AM.
Can't wait. Technically am I defending the title as the 2011 group was never finished??
yes technically u r champ abd realistically 2!and id like 2 vouch for yor substitution in the 2011 2nd place decider.. any 1 got a problem with that?
I guess that makes sense. I can step in for Morte as I lost the H2H matchup with him in that bracket. And I could then step in for Thrasher as I beat him in the previous years final. It's not a perfect solution, but I think it is the best one we have. Plus, I would like to win back to back to back years, even if 2011 has an asterisk next to my name
Originally Posted by Mawpawk
Or Dan could step in for Thrasher since he was runner up in the group.
Nah its been way to long I think maw should just get to play scottie for the finals. Duke lost out fair and square like the rest of us so it would be unfair to maw or scottie to bring him back.....
I'm fine with that.
Originally Posted by GrizzleyTigers4
Although, technically I do feel somewhat cheated as it took Morte 8 months to schedule 5 games with me so I never got to play in another bracket! :/
I know how ya feel but I was forced to drop out of the 2010 champions bracket when my cousin died(during my matches) and never got a 2nd shot...should I be allowed to challenge you for the championship because of this?.........
I guess its taken so long already Im just ready to see maw and scottie finish it.....
If it was the 1st round I would say substitute....but jumping someone 2-3 rounds to fill a spot I dont think is needed....just give thrasher the forfeit like was done to me in the other one and lets get a winner.....besides....having 2 champs in this years bracket would be awesome......
Jack is host of that thread so he gets final say
Thats fine, like I said. Using perfect logic I would sub for Morte, Dan for Thrahser. Which means I have no chance of reaching the finals anyways as Morte was 4-4 and 7-3 would be needed. Or give a forfeit. Whatever Jacks decides.
Originally Posted by GrizzleyTigers4
I hate excluding thrasher... Ive waited a long time and got as anoyed as anyone esp vs morte being slow to get his games done - but to win the title without beating thrasher, it seems a bit wrong (I have a lot of respect for thrashers civ ability and beating him in the finals would be a real achievement)...
So I'd like to get some sort of word from thrash about this.. But I dont know how feasible that is.
(that being said - I'll play whatever games whenever - as per what is decided here)
Last edited by ScottieX; 04-12-2012 at 07:32 PM.
Well put Spok....
Originally Posted by dukeblue1987
This might take a while to get started... I have a feeling 8 man tourney will be done before this starts but I've been wrong before
So, group six finished & this is ready to roll - good luck everyone.
good group here. this should be fun.
Everyone save their Mongols for me
maw and liam played the first two games!....I know maw won 2-0 but Ill let him tell you all about it.....I played 4 games as well
maw vs blades
Gm1 Russia v Egypt(CoR)
Well I had a pretty fast start. So did maw, he took out one ai quick and also rome for code which meant no trading post for me. Then he gets AW. He is crushing ais with his fundy. I get a GS and notice he flips into anarchy so I GS Monarchy to kill AW. I thought I was slick. I get a GL from mon bonus and have a road connecting my cap to my 100g barracks city. As soon as I put my spy and vet archers in there and walk the GL in he flips the city and builds 2 LAs fast taking thebes from me. Well played mawpawk!!
Gm2 Mongol vs Mongo
Well he settles 2 tiles from aztec cap and i settle 3. I find the hill next to them so I know hes there but he doesnt know Im there. The intel allows me to form a WA on the hill. After taking aztecs and get bronze it was over as he was blocked in.
1-1 maw vs blades...ggs
liam vs blades
Gm1 Greece vs Germa
He takes out an ai cap early and I dont pay attention much. Im doing my german thing, knowing about liams style i figure it will take knights to get his pikeman cap so I dont go for quick legions. A march WA allows me to take lots of huts and eventually 3 pop kyoto and karakorum. Long story short he gets 7cog right before I attack. I go to legions then to knights and attack with 10 KA's taking his cities fast.
Gm2. French mirror
Well I find 50 gold and see he borders so I destroyed him!...took his cap with a walkin WA as he walked out to get a barb....ggs liam
blades beats liam 2-0
Great start grizz well done. Kick some ass for me
Originally Posted by GrizzleyTigers4
my french vs liams egypt(cor)
the game looked kinda futile after liam took out china kinda early with a HA and starts locking down AAs evry where, but i manage 2 take moscow and later germany and beeline for cats to take thebes and the game
my egypt (cor) vs liams english
i get a good start but liams system freezes up and we restart, luckily i get colossus again and kill a lone horse of his for the win
my games vs grizz
the game was over for me regardless of my city count untill i flipped his baracks city
mongol mirror, i think the big opportunity for grizz was him attacking my warrior 1-1 for vet status and to power up his army, i did have a warrior army outside of aztec but it wasnt enuf ggs
Just split with REM0 1-1.....Im quite upset about the second one.....
Gm1 India me v REM0 English
We both settle 2 tiles from the ai. He takes it then I take him off the hill winning the even battle. I almost got the walkin on his cap next turn but he ended up losing a 1.5-1.35 anyways. I had 2 more warriors and a 2rd next turn so I thin I had it anyhow. GG
Gm2 I get 100g early and build 4 warriors in my cap cuz I know he has horses. I send my 2nd unit to the south to get 7cog. I goofed and formed my WA before he attacked with his vet horse and lost my cap. Then I goofed again hardcore. My controller jumped on me and I walked out of my 2nd city the turn before I got 7c and REM0 simply walked right in for the win. Quite pissed at myself as I think I coud have taken my cap back with my 7cog money. GG REM
My games against Mawpawk I wasn't in the best of condition from a serious hangover but he outplayed me and won easily. The games against Grizz I had built two vet cat armies to take the 4 still elite WA's sat next to my choke but I was a bit slow and the next turn they all turned to knights and I'd teched something so couldn't attack first. In hindsight I should of left both CA's at home and let 7 pikes take the hits but nevermind a bad start for me!!
Just played REM0 twice though for two wins and will write up later. One ridiculously good Roman start and then my Japanese power.
split games with remo18
my indians beat his romans
my germans lose to his indians
first game i got a great start and won
second game was an hour half long warrior n legion battle , kinda pissed off with myself in this game as my greed 2 kill rem0 lost me most of my army and the game , im pretty sure he outclassed me on button races and manourves 2 gg man
So I just played two with duke...man I screwed up....
Gm1.. Russia mirror
Long story short I tried to clear a pop-up to attack a hut quick and ended up choosing alphabet spending all 20 of my banked tech on that instead of hbr.....duke takes my cap with a HA about 3 turns before I had m HA...so the 5 turns i lost on alpha cost me....I then attack his injured HA with a single horse and lose so he takes game 1
Gm2 my Rome vs dukes japan
Well I noticed he got a tec(alphabet) from his first barb or friendly. I on the other hand got 25 gold and settled 2 tiles from berlin to the n and china 3 tiles to the south. I take berlin at 3600 and then china with a WA off a hill shortly after. I run into duke 2 tiles south of my china cap and he takes a hut and my archer that was about to take said hut. So I get HA in the city and have it defended with AA since its next to 2 hills. He loses the 13.5-15 but I would have killed him with my HA anyways....I win game 2.
Well played duke.....1-1
Split with MawPawk. First game my Germans beat his English with 8 elite knight armies.
2nd game his Romans beat my CoR Egypt after he gets walk in on Spain for nav, GP for fundy, KT, French, Mongols, and then wins 13.5 vs 12 and 8 vs 10 against me. Not much I could do, even with Colossus.
Originally Posted by GrizzleyTigers4
no problem if you don't have time for the write-up, just tell me who rem used.
Originally Posted by Liam_Sutty
point one, where are you? haven't heard word one since you ended bracket 6. give us an idea when you'll start.
wow, 4 out of the 4 Egypt games have been colossus - not looking good if you haven't used them yet, odds are surely stacked against you now
me english v rem russia i thin
Originally Posted by danthechan
Well mawpawk won all 4 of those games...one he had CoR the other 3 his op did....
Originally Posted by JackHall2003
Busy day yesterday. Went 2-4 thanks to a sweep by Liam ... Game 1 w/ Grizz was a lost cause for me anyways. Started at the end of a long peninsula, just to walk into Athens. Had 10g, settled in crap spot to get the walkin, which I got w/ demo. But then he takes it from me 1.5 vs. 1.5. Even if I had won the ensuing 1.5 vs. 1.34 battle I still would have lost since my cap had no production.
Game 2 w/ Grizz: I was wondering why you put a WA in your cap. Seemed strange.
1st game vs. Liam was ridiculously one-sided. My Mongols stared on the north ice-cap peninsular with the exit blocked by barb. So i had to settle on turn 2 - worst thing you can do w/ Mongols. His Romans got SoC before 3500BC and Spain shortly after for Nav. I did take Kyoto around 2500BC, but was a lost cause.
2nd game vs. Liam was OK, but him getting to Tripoli 2 turns before me sealed the deal. I hung in there and expanded w/ my French on my large peninsular w/o much gold and CoL from Romans, but was not enough for Liam's tech-savy Japanese. He also had a deal w/ GP god, giving him 3 GSs for Nav, Ind and Combustion :-/
1st game vs. Maw was lopsided unfortunately. His Indians found KT around 3500BC. I saw Beijing w/ 10g, but you cannot really walk-in on them so I took down 2 barbs and sold all my warrios for 100g. While I was doing that he took Beijing already so the game was pretty much done. I teched HbR, but his KT stopped by and caused some damage.
2nd game: Epic warrior, legions (him) and horse (me) battles. Maw should have won that after I made the wrong call w/ my little early gold and production advantage. I Did not go for 100g and Hbr early enough and wanted to contain his landlocked Berlin w/ warriors. Kinda worked initially, but he made contact to all 3 AIs and bullied them into giving him gold and got BW from a hut. So he could build a barracks and start working on the elites. I thought it was over and was about to quit, but then he decided to kill me rather than the AIs and lost 3 elite LAs at my cap to 2 archer armies and a HA. My AAs held up better than expected. So now he was out a lot of units, but still had Madrid. I had Delhi and a 100g city that he did not know about. I manage to take Madrid, he still produces LAs as if its easy w/ only one city. Takes it back, I retake it. He finds SoC but can't get to his cap. I spot his GPs (GE and GA), he puts em back on a boat. Comes back later to the same location and tries it again and I intercept his GA and he finally concedes ... I would have lost that one if Maw had gone for the Russians instead of for me.
REM - are we playing tonight at the same time as yesterday? Or Sunday night? Either works for me.
has anyone seen point one?
I'm sure Multi has.
Originally Posted by danthechan
Played 2 vs. Duke yesterday. We split 1-1.
1st game my Germans lose to his Greeks. We both get good starts. He takes London before 3000BC and I settle in land by Mongols with plenty of barbs around. I make the mistake of wanting to use the Mongols to make my single warrior elite and retreat to often. Should have just let them grow to 3 and taken down a close-by barb first for 2 experience points. Stupid ... So I took Karakorum (behind me) right when Duke shows up with his horse army. I got some single warriors out, but his HA by-passes my warriors and takes Berlin, getting injured though. I was ready to form a counter army but a resilient warrior of his survived another even battle to reduce my 3 warriors to 2 - so not counter ... He hangs on to Berlin with his pikes. I manage to kill the HA 3 vs. 3 but his pikes are too strong for my WAs. I had enough gold, but with one city you can only rush one unit a turn :-/ I should have scouted my territory better early. Duke wins
2nd game my Egyptians (Henge-Power!) vs. his Romans.
I get walkin on Greece in 3400 BC. He walks until 3200 or 3100, not finding an AI. We both get 100g. He is located behind a 1-tile land bridge about 6 tiles SW of my 100g city. I send my HA and warrior plus single pike there. We fight archers vs. HA for a while. Initially my HA takes down 3 archers w/o getting injured. Then duke switches to fundy from AW and his AA takes down my warrior and pike w/o injuries. I have a 2nd HA coming and a boat, so I put a 2nd pike on the choke point and ship my HA around his cap after he attack my pike w/ his fundy, vet AA. I drop them off on the other side of Rome. He forms another AA and attacks my HA 6 vs. 6 and wins. Next turn I attack his injured AA and take Rome, but my HA gets injured too. I move militia in. He attacks and kills my HA. Next turn he attacks my militia 2 vs. 2 and loses. The follows up with the AA before I could rush another unit, courtesy of the GE that announced his arrival. So he takes Rome back. I choke of sea path to me and decide to start teching (stupid move). He rushes a galley, attacks mine and loses. Rushes another galley 2 turns later and wins ... Where did u get all that gold from?! So now I have a super charged AA heading my way and I am out of gold. I assemble a non-vet HA and send another expensive galley his way. Attack and lose ... He drops of AA and double-moves into my 100g city. I button race his march AA and attack from hill and win 9 vs. 9 for the win. Lots of tight battles back and forth. I again made a bad call starting to tech. Should have used that money on building more horses and pikes. But luckily it did not backfire completely. REM018 wins.
standings updated. what are we going to do about this point one situation? multi, can you reach out to him and ask him to check in here? we need to know if he has quit, or is just on vacation.
me vs pointonesttar
japan mirror match, pretty simple start for us both but my japan starting steamrolling when i took madrid for nav , point found angor for the GPs and switched 2 republic, his closest civ being the greeks didnt help him much, my HA also took out beijing. i managed 2 take 1 single tile island off him and used my GB to build eitc ,then point concedes
Good games. I think they were pretty well played on both sides. I apologize if I sounded upset, I just had a crappy non related to civ day yesterday.
Originally Posted by REM018