GOTW French 25.03.2012

[Kadera]

This week we are the French.
Others civs are:
-Spanish (W)
-Americans (NW, 3-pop GH)
-Indians (far N - island)
-Aztecs (NE, landlocked by barbs)
Artifacts:
-SoC (5W from Madrid)
-AW (5W 4S from Madrid)
-Atlantis (9W 3N from Madrid)
-KT (7S 9W from Madrid)
-AoC (3N 1W from Tenochtitlan).

No walk in but it's not hard to take Madrid. But later ... American walk out at 2800 BC! The fastest walk out ever, 3 turns faster than old record, it's far too early, i need to stop them. Also: Aztec walk out is very late and almost no forest so expanding will be slow (+1 or +2 turns). Production city - only 54h / 1turn, i exptecs 8 turns for 500h.

[Woolgatherer]

Did a quick run-thru on this week and found something strange. Late in the game, I was flipping thru my cities, deciding on what bldgs to work on, when I saw that Universities were only 80 hammers!? Never saw a 1/2 price univ., as far as I can remember... Glitch? Anyone else ever seen this?? And no, no GB settled, was the same price in all cities..

P.S. Does a prereq OF a prereq...scratch that, too confusing, we'll try this: If I have Adv flight(and the other 2 prereqs of Space flight), but not Flight, will researching Flight make Space flight cheaper?

[HydroDragon]

It's a bonus from some tech or wonder, can't remember which. Networking maybe?

[Woolgatherer]

Ah, must have accidentally gotten Networking from Oxford. Very rarely research that, so I wouldn't remember its' bonus.. thanks. Speaking of Oxford, what are the reqs again to get Adv flight from it? Pedal?

[HydroDragon]

Industrialization as your highest tech. Corporation gives networking I think.

[Woolgatherer]

Yep, now I remember, been off the game for awhile, so many details to remember. Thanks Hydro..

[Liam_Sutty]

Yes it is corporation for networking. Great for the GB combo for getting Internet wonder.

[johnfeddersen]

Kadera,

You must just know what to do... It took me 13 attempts to take madrid and get Nav out of it. The Americans are aggressive but do walk-out at least twice.

Warning! If left a lone for too long, the indians will build CoR and the GW, which will prevent you from attacking until you tech Eng... They will also beat you to many early tech bonuses...

[Kadera]

It took me 13 attempts to take madrid and get Nav

I needed ~10 attemps, ~30 minutes, i found 3 ways for 3000 BC (1 completed).

Nav out of it. The Americans are aggressive but do walk-out at least twice.

No problem for me I took 2 American cities (without walk outs). Later Aztecs - walk out at 1900 BC. As for Dom 1700 BC should be easy (1800 BC harder, maybe faster if Aztec walk out will be earlier).

If left a lone for too long, the indians will build CoR and the GW

Even worse, they builds HGB at 1600 BC (they have banked many hammers, they can complete many archers in 1 turn).

Without HGB i had problem with production city. It's reason why i did only 100 BC Cultural V. (on Deity), my production city was ready at 1000 BC, 24/20 cultural milestones at 200 BC. Yesterday i did 100 BC tech (posted as 50 AD) with many mistakes, i needed Steam Power for cruiser , 1 turn anarchy, also kidnapped GL from Indiand as 1st GP (with GS instead of GL 200 BC was possible). Even 400 BC is possible for tech but useless due to no proofs. 200 BC is possible for cult but 2 GB are needed (very early, maybe 300 BC with 3GB lol).
EDIT: i posted 1800 BC Dom (Indians completed only 1 archer after galleon drop).

[johnfeddersen]

I quit this week... Indians build GW by 200BC. When I get there at 400BC they turn all the hammers to Archers (as Kadera states).

Rel,inf,fleet 27.5LA vs 33AA. Wore them down after losing 3 LAs, then they have GG. 17.5 VS 10, I lose. Again 17.5 vs 10, I lose!

My remaining AAs shoot themselves in the head.

Posted 250 AD after rearming and teching to Eng.

Rediculous...

[MagnaCarta]

I needed ~10 attemps, ~30 minutes, i found 3 ways for 3000 BC (1 completed).

Kadera,

It took me 13 attempts to take madrid and get Nav out of it.

It took me over 20 and i still didn't get there!! .... you both should feel happy with this then.... or i should feel very stupid!! one of the 2...

My remaining AAs shoot themselves in the head.

Thats funny John..... poor archers, soooooo helpless..

I quit this week...

I'm thinking the same thing ..... Lack of quality time and zero progress so far with whatever time i had... total disaster week for me.

[Kadera]

It took me over 20 and i still didn't get there!! .... you both should feel happy with this then.... or i should feel very stupid!! one of the 2...

Or bad luck Sometimes it's 5 minutes, sometimes 2 hours (based on skill and luck).
Weekly spoiler:
4000 BC NW NW
3900 BC NW NW
3800 BC NW NW
3700 BC W, settle, 4h, militia NW (10g), peace
3600 BC mil NE
3500 BC mil NE, rush Warrior1 vs barbs
3400 BC W1 defend, mil N (10g), W2 vs barbs, caravan SW S S
3300 BC W2 S, caravan S (10g) N def, mil def, W1 SW
3200 BC W1 def, W2 SW, W3 SW, click form army, WA vs Archer 4.5 vs 6
3100 BC peace with Americans, heal WA
3000 BC WA vs Archer 4 vs 7 -> blitz, caravan to Madrid, buy IW sell Pott, take Madrid + Nav.
2900 BC 100g settlers
2400 BC 2nd American city, AW
2300 BC Republic, Washington
1900 BC Tenochtitlan (walk out)
1800 BC GB (150c) for EIC
1500 BC Ind+Corp from huts
1300 BC Democracy, ~45 cities (later ~50 cities), Irrigation from Atlantis (or 1200 BC?)
1000 BC Railroad, 46h/turn (later 52h/turn and 78h+78h with comm.)

[MagnaCarta]

Or bad luck Sometimes it's 5 minutes, sometimes 2 hours (based on skill and luck).
Weekly spoiler:
4000 BC NW NW
3900 BC NW NW
3800 BC NW NW
3700 BC W, settle, 4h, militia NW (10g), peace
3600 BC mil NE
3500 BC mil NE, rush Warrior1 vs barbs
3400 BC W1 defend, mil N (10g), W2 vs barbs, caravan SW S S
3300 BC W2 S, caravan S (10g) N def, mil def, W1 SW
3200 BC W1 def, W2 SW, W3 SW, click form army, WA vs Archer 4.5 vs 6
3100 BC peace with Americans, heal WA
3000 BC WA vs Archer 4 vs 7 -> blitz, caravan to Madrid, buy IW sell Pott, take Madrid + Nav.
2900 BC 100g settlers
2400 BC 2nd American city, AW
2300 BC Republic, Washington
1900 BC Tenochtitlan (walk out)
1800 BC GB (150c) for EIC
1500 BC Ind+Corp from huts
1300 BC Democracy, ~45 cities (later ~50 cities), Irrigation from Atlantis (or 1200 BC?)
1000 BC Railroad, 46h/turn (later 52h/turn and 78h+78h with comm.)

I was way way way off........

My theme was similar (starting spot on majority of tries) but I never even considered warriors, all my tries involved buying IW and building legions... figures, another learning week...

Looks like a nice detailed spoiler, I'll definitely try it out tonight.

Or bad luck Sometimes it's 5 minutes, sometimes 2 hours (based on skill and luck).

I'm guessing skill !! (this week at least)

[johnfeddersen]

I hate when K does it with warriors. I was losing 9LA vs 7A... Kadera - 4W vs 7A and wins! Twice!!

I did it with LAs at 2600 buying IW from the Americans, but it is way too convaluted + K's is faster...

I did put that LA on a galeon to the AZ and picked up the canon on the way...

I should have won at 300BC, but I'm settling with year 0, second by one turn on PS3 LB.