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    System Shock 3

    You Can Do Eeet

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy-o View Post
    You Can Do Eeet
    i suppose thats not a question for 2k

    so, can you do it? if i created the pretty please with sugar on top petition and got like 4000 million signatures?

    cause i will

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    Electronic Arts is apparently already on it.

    http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/07/ea...s-pc-gamer-uk/

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    hmm

    do you think that EA will do it justice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy-o View Post
    do you think that EA will do it justice?
    I have no idea what-so-ever, especially since I've never played The Godfather. However, I never assume that the game is going to suck because someone else is doing it. Origin did System Shock 1 and Irrational did System Shock 2, and the latter turned out to be one of the greatest games that I've ever played. We'll have to wait and see.

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    its late

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulsphere View Post
    I have no idea what-so-ever, especially since I've never played The Godfather. However, I never assume that the game is going to suck because someone else is doing it. Origin did System Shock 1 and Irrational did System Shock 2, and the latter turned out to be one of the greatest games that I've ever played. We'll have to wait and see.
    never played 1. didn't even remember til now that origin did system shock. surprises me i loved the mess out of ultima series as a kid. funny now that im older i like bioshocks simpler shooter style... i dont want to know what my characters ability to repair weapons is. i just want to wreck the place.

    babies need fresh meat, somehow system shock 2 was less demented because to me it was sci-fi. like event horizon (the movie) although its very scary and tense, there is a time barrier and a tech barrier in the way of belief. i dunno the many lacked the charisma and strange attraction of the splicers. its almost like i relate to the splicers, and of course, because im splicing plasmids, but because they are doing what i would have done down there if i lived in rapture... too many drugs! haha

    i think bioshock is one of the greatest games ive played as well, but i am a casual gamer. i hear the cries of the hardcore, and i respect them. i hope there is a patch for the issues that bother people because this game is so close to pleasing everyone that they could live up to the 100 ratings they have received.

    the nice thing about AIs is there is no real killing them (haHA, made a backup! take that!) ala shodan, so maybe shodan and xerxes will make sweet AI love and seed their child into the net, the little bastard. enter you.

    or maybe they will merge into a superAI, like a gestalt but um wierder, and do strange and demented things... like experiment with genetics

    or maybe ken levine will think of something smarter than my ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy-o View Post
    never played 1. didn't even remember til now that origin did system shock. surprises me i loved the mess out of ultima series as a kid. funny now that im older i like bioshocks simpler shooter style... i dont want to know what my characters ability to repair weapons is. i just want to wreck the place.

    babies need fresh meat, somehow system shock 2 was less demented because to me it was sci-fi. like event horizon (the movie) although its very scary and tense, there is a time barrier and a tech barrier in the way of belief. i dunno the many lacked the charisma and strange attraction of the splicers. its almost like i relate to the splicers, and of course, because im splicing plasmids, but because they are doing what i would have done down there if i lived in rapture... too many drugs! haha

    i think bioshock is one of the greatest games ive played as well, but i am a casual gamer. i hear the cries of the hardcore, and i respect them. i hope there is a patch for the issues that bother people because this game is so close to pleasing everyone that they could live up to the 100 ratings they have received.

    the nice thing about AIs is there is no real killing them (haHA, made a backup! take that!) ala shodan, so maybe shodan and xerxes will make sweet AI love and seed their child into the net, the little bastard. enter you.

    or maybe they will merge into a superAI, like a gestalt but um wierder, and do strange and demented things... like experiment with genetics

    or maybe ken levine will think of something smarter than my ideas.
    Yeah, I can see SHODAN making some sort of AI child, and maybe create a body for it. Though I don't think she'll do anything with genetics, especially since The Many was a failure to her. She'll want something more mechanical.

    As for me, I used to be a very hardcore gamer, but most games just don't interest me anymore. I'm very picky and I tend to get bored quite easily. However, there are some more current games that I play and enjoy, but most of those are different from the majority.

    I was bored of First-Person Shooters until Half-Life came out and renewed my interest. I also enjoyed the sequel quite a bit, too.

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    Origin published Shock 1, but it was written by Looking Glass. Shock 2 was co-wrote by Irrational and Looking Glass, and I'm sure you all know there's lots of ex-LG people at Irrational and Irrational was founded by people who left LG.

    EA in-house could not do the game justice. Nothing to stop them getting a good studio to make it, but it won't be Irraitonal since they are now owned by 2K/Take Two, and I can't think of anyone else who could do as good a job with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish99 View Post
    Origin published Shock 1, but it was written by Looking Glass. Shock 2 was co-wrote by Irrational and Looking Glass, and I'm sure you all know there's lots of ex-LG people at Irrational and Irrational was founded by people who left LG.

    EA in-house could not do the game justice. Nothing to stop them getting a good studio to make it, but it won't be Irraitonal since they are now owned by 2K/Take Two, and I can't think of anyone else who could do as good a job with it.
    i dont know enough about the presently active studios to comment.

    i do know that the only other video game i really play on any regular basis is made by ea. which means absolutely nothing about anything because fifa 07 has about as much to do with what made system shock great as jack has with the pope.

    i bet they'll muck it up, have they done any drama games, much less horror games? all i even know is they make the best sports games in many eyes? if i had to predict, i bet they'll regurgitate the stuff that made 1 and 2 great, have you finally beat shodan, and hype it to the max as unpredictable.

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    It's a real shame that EA holds the rights to System Shock, but it's fantastic that the guiding force behind SS2 can create another game, under another name, and have it received by the community as a spiritual successor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy-o View Post
    do you think that EA will do it justice?
    No.
    They don't really have a good reputation around here.

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    yesh

    nice avatar btw

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    hah, asking if EA will do the system shock series justice is like asking if fish can live in radioactive slime. it just doesnt work. sry if this is contrary to someones views but if you look at how ea has mangled the command and conquer games (and almost every other game that they bought up because it was selling good) then you will see the true reason the CnC communtiy has died down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogbert1280 View Post
    hah, asking if EA will do the system shock series justice is like asking if fish can live in radioactive slime. it just doesnt work. sry if this is contrary to someones views but if you look at how ea has mangled the command and conquer games (and almost every other game that they bought up because it was selling good) then you will see the true reason the CnC communtiy has died down.
    poor poor blinky...
    It just alwasys ends up... wrong some how:
    http://www.utahbassfederation.org/images/Blinky.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by BioShockWins View Post
    No.
    They don't really have a good reputation around here.
    Which is a shame because EA were a great company...in days gone by

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    If the team that made Godfather are making it, we are in for a treat of the doggie variety

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    Quote Originally Posted by iJacks View Post
    Which is a shame because EA were a great company...in days gone by
    and they're getting some of that cred back. I trust them more since instead of releasing only Ep 2 portal and TF2, they put in the original Half Life 2 and Ep 1 in the same package for the same price. Madden 08 is the best reviewed madden in years. Theme Park DS was more than just a port. Battle for Middle Earth 2 and Command and Conquer 3 were good games.

    I could keep going, I haven't even touched their wii support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotkrotan View Post
    and they're getting some of that cred back. I trust them more since instead of releasing only Ep 2 portal and TF2, they put in the original Half Life 2 and Ep 1 in the same package for the same price. Madden 08 is the best reviewed madden in years. Theme Park DS was more than just a port. Battle for Middle Earth 2 and Command and Conquer 3 were good games.

    I could keep going, I haven't even touched their wii support.
    That's Valves decision not EA. Plus I thought BFME, BFME2 and C&C3 were all pretty average.

    daddy-o/
    I wouldn't be surprised if whatever game you are speaking of was only published by EA not written in-house.

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    I hope EA never release something with the name System Shock on it. They will not do the series justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy-o View Post
    do you think that EA will do it justice?
    Given what they did to sim city, Burnout, and countless others, I'm gonna go with no.

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    yeah,

    many good golden titles have fallen in the hands of EA ..... the thief title is under their belt now aswell :-( and that was a really good game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitamin-Carrot View Post
    yeah,

    many good golden titles have fallen in the hands of EA ..... the thief title is under their belt now aswell :-( and that was a really good game
    3rd game was bad. Really bad.

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    farming ss3

    Quote Originally Posted by fish99 View Post
    daddy-o/
    I wouldn't be surprised if whatever game you are speaking of was only published by EA not written in-house.
    yeah i hope so. its not like scifi-horror is their strong suite.

    would ken do it?

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    Ugh EA developing System shock 3 (not just publishing?). I would be against it if it were anyone but Irrational Games to be honest. You see evidence of System shock 2's gameplay all over the place in Bioshock. I might have had high expectations for System shock 3 if it was made by Irrational (now enveloped by another mega publisher 2k), its now pretty much a write off in my mind.

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    man, i just was thinkin and i realized that with only a few true mega publishers of games thesed corporations are getting pretty close to having a monopoly on these products... if only ea would screw up and put themselves in a position to get taken down by the corporate monopoly laws that are in place... it seems to me that these laws let the corporations buy up eachother to the point where there is only a couple of them... or i might just be stupid as hell, one of the two.

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    repost from another thread

    SS2 was and still is my all time fav game. You can imagine my "shock " to find that XPwindows wouldnt play SS2.

    SS2 was not a mindless point and shoot. it was fascinating and scariest game i have ever played.

    Personally, I viewed Doom 3 as a knock off of system shock 2. i found the graphics confusing and cluttered. it took away from the sher horror element. the creatures were mindless and mechanical.

    Although, i really like Bioshock, I prefer the spare and spartan graphics of System shock 2. the screaming monkey along the carpeted corridor was very frightening and it kept the mind focused on the horror and the idea. I know that game developers pride them selves in detailed and compilcated graphics complete with shadow play. It is over done if it distracts from basic elements of horror. Keep it simple!

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    definitely man, ive told my friends a million times i dont care if it looks good when the story is a pile of crap that would make a dung beatle commit suicide. i would rather be playing games with graphics about the same as sytem shock 2's and amazingly intricate and involving storylines than something that would fool jesus into thinking it was real yet doesnt tell any story or make me want to keep playing. i just wish devs could see that. the technology is as advanced as it needs to be, let it be for a while work on the plot not the engine just because you can do something doesnt mean you should.

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    An SS3 would be awesome, but I hope it's for console players to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelphoenix View Post
    3rd game was bad. Really bad.
    I think you should go and see a doctor. Thief: Deadly Shadows was a great game!

    many good golden titles have fallen in the hands of EA ..... the thief title is under their belt now aswell :-(
    What? They've bought it from Eidos? I don't think so...

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    upside

    Quote Originally Posted by dogbert1280 View Post
    man, i just was thinkin and i realized that with only a few true mega publishers of games thesed corporations are getting pretty close to having a monopoly on these products... if only ea would screw up and put themselves in a position to get taken down by the corporate monopoly laws that are in place... it seems to me that these laws let the corporations buy up eachother to the point where there is only a couple of them... or i might just be stupid as hell, one of the two.
    just to play devil's advocate, this gives huge companies the ability to assemble great and diverse teams. like the fact that 2k has so much else going on makes bioshock 2 exciting! there are more resources to put into it. i am not drawing any direct analogy between ea and 2k here. i am only saying that the problem does not lie in companies being large, it lies in thinking that because you can afford a lot of advertising, you can shovel crap down peoples throats and call it entertainment. well, with some people you can!!! you could still blame the companies for exploiting human stupidity, but the problem, the real problem, isn't that companies are big. its that humans are stupid. stupid enough to believe that Because a company is big, it is good. de facto. ?!?

    its easy enough to blame someone else. but i suggest (just as a fellow human being) to stop it, take accountability for your own consumer voice, stop buying crap, stop supporting companies that you don't like, and live a conscious lifestyle. thats an actual solution, instead of just complaining about the problem.

    sorry for the rant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necros View Post
    I think you should go and see a doctor. Thief: Deadly Shadows was a great game!


    What? They've bought it from Eidos? I don't think so...
    can you compare thief to system shock 2, or tenchu stealth assassin. those two games come to mind when i think of it.

    thief 3 that is

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    i have, i expected much better when i purchased bioshock. i appreciate you taking the devils advocate role here man. i wasnt trying to say that because the companies are big they make crap games i was tryiung to point out a possible way of eliminating what many view as a threat to game series everywhere. just think of a world without ea heh. i dunno, maybe its just the gremlins in my head grabbing random thoughts and typing them.

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    hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by dogbert1280 View Post
    i have, i expected much better when i purchased bioshock. i appreciate you taking the devils advocate role here man. i wasnt trying to say that because the companies are big they make crap games i was tryiung to point out a possible way of eliminating what many view as a threat to game series everywhere. just think of a world without ea heh. i dunno, maybe its just the gremlins in my head grabbing random thoughts and typing them.
    in a world without ea, i wouldn't have FIFA to play (can't play real football, bum legs)

    todays random thought: expectations are the cause of disappointment.

    and i didnt take you as saying that because companies are big, they make crap. even if its true, its not because they are big. i wasn't saying that.

    the nicest thing about big companies is that you dont Have to buy their product. its a choice. i like that.

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    EA

    ea has a lot of expectations built up about crysis. when i first saw the promo vids i thought 'hmm predictably military' but i will be examining this game for plot style and content, because i know it contains rpg elements. or maybe i should just say 'theres a story'.

    being that system shock is military in nature, crysis might be an indication of what to expect. i personally haven't written ea off as being able to pull it off. someone else mentioned that while looking glass/irrational had a hand in both games, they were indeed developed by different people. who knows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddy-o View Post
    in a world without ea, i wouldn't have FIFA to play (can't play real football, bum legs)
    That would be fine because Pro Evolution is a LOT better

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    cool

    Quote Originally Posted by storm84 View Post
    That would be fine because Pro Evolution is a LOT better
    how so?

    stupid ten letter minimum

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    FIFA used to be an arcade soccer sim, and that was fine. It was fun. Then Pro Evo came around with its realistic and varied gameplay and it blew FIFA away. Since Pro Evo gained a heap of rave reviews and fan support, FIFA has been playing catch-up in terms of realistic play, so its not as fun as it was and it feels like a poor version of Pro Evo. All its got going for it is its graphics and management capabilities. But on that front Football Manager is by far a better game.

    If FIFA spent more time on getting the gameplay mechanics right and less time on implementing more and more features most people will never use, I'll go back to it. Until then the gameplay of Pro Evolution is just too dynamic, realistic and complete for any other "simulator" to compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by storm84 View Post
    FIFA used to be an arcade soccer sim, and that was fine. It was fun. Then Pro Evo came around with its realistic and varied gameplay and it blew FIFA away. Since Pro Evo gained a heap of rave reviews and fan support, FIFA has been playing catch-up in terms of realistic play, so its not as fun as it was and it feels like a poor version of Pro Evo. All its got going for it is its graphics and management capabilities. But on that front Football Manager is by far a better game.

    If FIFA spent more time on getting the gameplay mechanics right and less time on implementing more and more features most people will never use, I'll go back to it. Until then the gameplay of Pro Evolution is just too dynamic, realistic and complete for any other "simulator" to compare.
    thanks for the recommendation

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