Young whipper snapper.Originally Posted by xenonmicon
Young whipper snapper.
We're not so differentI'm 32 and this is the second MP franchise I've actually participated in.
Two "old farts" playing bioshock.
I have a kid that's almost as old as you two.Two "old farts" playing bioshock.
LOL, I know you do. Maybe we should start a senior splicer clan LOL (provided there are discounts involved, otherwise why bother advertising your age? right?)
I do have my associate AARP card, though that's due to the wife's age rather than mine!
COUGH COUGH, sure... lol, wink
I have a similar story. This is my first online console game. I am a little older and was at one time one of the best Quake/Quake 2 players in the US, but I don't usually like to tell people that (because I am not very good at FPS anymore). I used to play on a website called Heat.net. I had a different ID I liked to use at that time though that I will not post here (since my full name is probably listed somewhere with it).
Ahh, but you use the VO upgrade. Which bodyshots are needed, its refreshing. I'm talking about the normal Jump > Nade > jump > nade, etc players. At least it shows you can aim well.
I use the GL for bodyshots mostly. Feels more rewarding, IMO.
Headshots, HEADSHOTS!!! GL headshots are even MORE satisfying... and if you can pull it off without the Velocity boost, then you know you are a master grenadier... and then you can put it away for good
Man, I out HS'd Water with this loadout.Headshots, HEADSHOTS!!! GL headshots are even MORE satisfying... and if you can pull it off without the Velocity boost, then you know you are a master grenadier... and then you can put it away for good
Dead. Serious. It was funny, am I a God then?
I think I may use GL/HS more, I challenge you Lance.
Lol Id like to hear your definiton of out HSing...I strongly doubt you can headshot better with GL VB than wateraja with EB CB. But hey you said you will upload your godlike skills on youtube anyway so I will probably see it myself soonMan, I out HS'd Water with this loadout.
Dead. Serious. It was funny, am I a God then?
I think I may use GL/HS more, I challenge you Lance.
Or to get em wif splash damage since theyre trying to hide siiince theyre very low on health.
"Doubt it". Lol.
You can ask Water yourself, (If she'll post again, anyway.) It was a funny match, with much raging.Lol Id like to hear your definiton of out HSing...I strongly doubt you can headshot better with GL VB than wateraja with EB CB. But hey you said you will upload your godlike skills on youtube anyway so I will probably see it myself soon
I don't prefer godlike, that makes me sound egostitclez. :P
That's one of the reasons I love it, Great for them corner squirmers.
Oh dear lord it would be a massacre, I have been playing only Gotham City Imposters since it came out, I'm now all used to the unmodifiable default control layout of it (including the "feeling" with the turn speed and such) with the xbox controller to boot. I would be happy to play with you but I will definitely need a bit to get used to it again before I could prove to be any kind of fun.Man, I out HS'd Water with this loadout.
Dead. Serious. It was funny, am I a God then?
I think I may use GL/HS more, I challenge you Lance.
All of these statements are foolish....
How so crispy? Frank and I Play SotF over team most of the time and in survival I can't remember the last time someone with primary GL beat me, the only one to come close is tleloc I think. The GL is a dominant weapon in CTS but not so much in civil an survival, in those modes it's jus an annoyance(at least to me). Trust me Fotaine and I used to have our fair share of fun matches against the naders like Elektrafieds crew and Bomgod and Grosengod, but I think we maybe lost 1 match against them. We had practice in the Xboxs prime of nades crispy and nowadays tere just aren't any grenadiers that are good enough to use it to compete with in SotF( which remember is his primary mode)
1. "I agree completely with Gunner, no one with a GL ever wins on the 360", he never specified any game types so I figure he meant all the game types. Soft is rare for a Grenadier to win, Civil isn't that rare for Grenadiers to win and Capture is dominated by grenades.
2. "and if you are gonna use the GL to try and "annoy" me then by all means go ahead it only makes you easier to kill.", honestly surprised he even said this because his primary is electro bolt headshot and the #1 counter against that is grenades by shaking up their screens and causing them to miss headshots. I know this works against Frank because I've done it myself. it in no way makes anyone easier to kill especially when headshotting.
3. "I have not met a GL user that can win solely based on their GL they get less kills and are less of a threat than someone with a good weapon", I'm pretty sure you've played against PP1000's clan, Bomgod/Grosengod, etc. and I doubt you've beat all of these people every single time when they grenade spammed you.
-Gunner, that is why I say it's foolish.
Here's the thing crispy this is Fotaine we are talking about. In civil war the GL really doesn't make that big of an impact(at least to
me) and I never step into capture so I wouldn't know lol. Bomgod and Grosengod are actually not that great with nades in my opinion, but pp1000 and gabo are a little different due to the fact that they can actually hit a headshot... If they only spammed grenades it wouldn't be that efficient, also keep in mind that pp as his crew always hav the suit as well. It's why they are so good, not because of nades IMO. Also a team of grenadiers is a little different, to be honest I was only thinking of a singular person for the duration, but the only team of people that use nades on their load out and beat skilled players is prolly pp1000's crew.
Also, I haven't seen you spam grenades in like 6 months, so who knows what kinda tricks fotaine has picked up when it comes to killing grenadiers, I can only speak for myself and nowadays very rarely do I die to tw grenade launcher.
Absolutely not true, the GL isn't a good counter to head shotting. Maybe back in the old days when people weren't as good but now it doesn't really make a difference because the screen shake doesn't stop the headshot from going through if you time it to the point where the shake angles and hits the head (don't know if you have ever done this but i do it alot which is why GL isn't that good anymore)
TK is the best counter to headshotting because they can't move and are at your mercy.
I've never been beaten by GrosenGod or BomGod except once in survival when they were both teamed up and i joined 12 kills in and lost 19 to 20. They have never beaten me in civil war.
As for PP1000s clan, i have only lost maybe once or twice but that was not due to the GL they just had good team work and i had none with my noobs
THAT! That right there... that is exactly what I was describing earlier regarding headshotters not/refusing to adapt to handle the GL users. Frank has done so through his play style without sacrificing his loadout structure (I don't even know anymore if you have any other loadouts
I am a little disappointed that the thread posters are starting to target each other and argue the posted opinions, it was all nice and civil with the opinion and information... but alas it is labeled as a GL "debating" thread, debating is the political term for arguing so I can't say to much on it.
GL shake is like the EB shake, no? Still haven't grown accustomed to either.
Don't worry, Gunner, Fotaine, Crispy and I all get along, so its not as heated as it may seem. On topic, the screen shake totally throws me off and is the only aspect of the grenade launcher I really hate. That and TK only works on it about %50 of the time. Its hardly a good counter.
I honestly think that the best counts to headshots is Houdini. You can't shoot what uou can't see right?
Met a whole team of GL/suiciders in CW last night. Looks like I have to put GL back in my loadout and spam the hell out of em.
Just some friendly debating going on here.
Time to 1vs1 me before you waste that newb skill with GL. I'm rusty, you can do it
p.s. Whats going on with Alts on PS3, you see like 2 every match, ugly name = weird skill = boxspam = Alt -_-
I can agree with the alt thing. I've come across nothing but boxspammers for the most part. As for the grenade launcher. Either use, don't or learn to handle it. It's in the game, it's a weapon and people will always use it. I do enjoy it. Do I win every match, No! Do I have fun, Yes. I find it hypocritical of people who say they hate the weapon and yet will pull it out when they miss the osk (not point fingers). I spam nades. Now you can all hate me
I like when you use one on my team, but the suicides/rez are irritating when the other people do it.I can agree with the alt thing. I've come across nothing but boxspammers for the most part. As for the grenade launcher. Either use, don't or learn to handle it. It's in the game, it's a weapon and people will always use it. I do enjoy it. Do I win every match, No! Do I have fun, Yes. I find it hypocritical of people who say they hate the weapon and yet will pull it out when they miss the osk (not point fingers). I spam nades. Now you can all hate me
BTW, I was letting you get the BD in that match in hephestus. Rangetzu ran right past it and I didn't want to lose my barrel! I had it in case somone from the other team showed up, but I think I am better as a non BD.
I just played you like 40 minutes ago xen. You caught me head on with a grenade to my face while I was in Aero Dash. (which looked hilarious from my perspective)I spam nades. Now you can all hate me
Ahem. I also know where the bodies are buried.
FWIW, I've only met 2 players on PS3 who are older than me (Hulio and FollowThru).
I think I killed you with that nade Bladia. I thought it was strange that a body would be flying in my direction at such high speed. That was a good match. Well until my internet decided to have ADHD. I think you were the only person to kill me consistently. You were using shotgun if I remember correct. Man what a crazy match. I got over zealous with the nade though. Got to learn to hold back and get the thought of "I'm In God Mode" out of my mind. Treat it like any other weapon and pace myself.
Found this on youtube and this is how most of my matches look now. I think Slowdive could agree as he's seen me in action with the nades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Ki-7mETSSf4
Last edited by xenonmicon; 02-24-2012 at 04:24 PM.
This video kinda makes me want to throw up...........
First of all, he should be using Rate of Fire, not Velocity Boost.
Second, he has a picture of everyone. If you're using nades you shouldn't need pictures, ever.
Third, they were all noobs and didn't know to use Telekinesis to fight back.
Rant over.
He used the standard GL not velocity boost. Rate of Fire is a good add-on to the GL as velocity boost seems to make it a rocket launcher. I understand the use of Expert Researcher if you use a secondary (as I do) like pistol, machine gun, or nailgun. Research doesn't seem to make the nade launcher more dangerous.
You just started using it recently didn't you? If so, and if you don't mind me asking, why the switch and the sudden infatuation? I've never been a fan, preferring to work on what I consider to be more skilled weapons, but that's certainly just a personal preference. I believe it was you that was enjoying the MG and CB RoF (though I could be mixing you up with someone else). Just wondering why the sudden change of heart, especially since you suddenly seem adamant about the thing?I can agree with the alt thing. I've come across nothing but boxspammers for the most part. As for the grenade launcher. Either use, don't or learn to handle it. It's in the game, it's a weapon and people will always use it. I do enjoy it. Do I win every match, No! Do I have fun, Yes. I find it hypocritical of people who say they hate the weapon and yet will pull it out when they miss the osk (not point fingers). I spam nades. Now you can all hate me
p.s. If I am mixing you and someone else up on the weapon preference, then disregard.
No, I love the MG and CB Rof still. I just got tired of being the guy who always got killed a dozen times every match. Seem the more fair I played the worse I was. I "love" the weapon because it get's me kills. It's fun to use and knowing that I can take down the other team (if their huddled together) means I actually aid my team, not cost them a win.
I like the skill based weapon, except after using the eb/cb for around a hundred hours and not being all that successful. I looked down other avenues. This is just something I'll eventually get out of my system once my kill/death ratios out of the red. I don't think I could run the same loadout day after day and month after month. That would just get boring.
Sounds good. And I am with you on EB/CB. I suck with it. Having much more fun with the other loadouts.
I'm running with GL rate of fire or velocity boost. I think the VB would make it a more precise weapon. Less spammy. A mean Incinerate with Machine Gun itself is a monster if you can aim.
xeno is good with the gl. That is all that matters. Xeno still doesn't use it like some of these level 50s. A lot of them can't get the job done with the CB, so they switch to grenades. Xeno comes right out with it and is pretty accurate. Even when we are on different teams, it doesn't bother me.
The people that bug me are the ones that destroy the turrets and all the barrels, then bust out GL's. If you want to take out the environmental attacks, then sack up and use skill weapons.
I'm starting to think MG w/firing bust is a monster with ANY plasmid if you can use it! Don't know why I haven't used it more in the past. I guess when I messed with it early on, I wasn't good at closing in and getting near people, so I was trying to use it at longer ranges. And of course that isn't what it is designed for and therefore it wasn't effective. Then I just sort of forgot about it. Now that you and AK got me back to using it, I am finding it very effective. I tend to use it more than the CB RoF due to the fact I can close in and kill a pair of folks without the need for reload.
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